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Jigabachi #21 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:22 AM

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I actually have no problem with tVIII MM and getting thrown into higher tier matches, but with the tank distribution and the general gamebalance.

JuliusCheddar #22 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

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Oooh no man, if only there already was a thread about it! 

Or 15 of them 



NiemandXL #23 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:40 AM

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View Postsignal11th, on 20 June 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

 I think tier 8 at the moment is just pointless tier 9 is much better.

 

Problem is there are (thankfully!!!) no tier 9 premium tanks so in order to grind credits its back to Maus and Type 5 hell with your favorite tier 8. And I just re-bought the 121 since it will get buffed in the next update so I'm pretty low on credits.



Haikonnen #24 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:41 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 19 June 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

It has been known for quite some time that tier 8 is completely broken right now. Just don't play it.

 

I would rephrase thet.

 

Don't play tier 8 and don't buy anything from WG....

 

Fkers should finally start giving a damn about the game and not just about funding their moon mission.



Haikonnen #25 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 20 June 2017 - 10:35 AM, said:

Oooh no man, if only there already was a thread about it! 

Or 15 of them 

 

More threads.. the better

Temid23 #26 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 19 June 2017 - 07:14 PM, said:

It has been known for quite some time that tier 8 is completely broken right now. Just don't play it.

 

I try to, but its quite hard when best credit making premiums are tier 8. But yea avoid t8 like plague especially in platoons. :(

Zorbiitti #27 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:45 AM

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I have no problems with playing against tier X with my tier VIII's, it's actually fun to be underdog...

JuliusCheddar #28 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:55 AM

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View PostHaikonnen, on 20 June 2017 - 10:42 AM, said:

 

More threads.. the better

I agree, but it's not like WG gives a Edited


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NUKLEAR_SLUG #29 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:58 AM

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View Postwot_troll_victim, on 19 June 2017 - 07:12 PM, said:

how am i supposed to increase my profit?? also, the tier X meds and heavies have significantly higher firepower than my tier VIII tanks. i am shooting peanuts and they are shooting nuclear.

i.e. T54mod1 played 7 battles, all 7 in tier X ffs!!!! i sent a ticket regarding this non-sense, and they replied that the fact they advertise better profit with prem tanks does not mean that they guarantee proper matchmaking to do that. so, they are just fooling the people around. no more premium account for me, neither in-game gold.

idiotic replies like "check your wn8,you are bad player,uninstall etc" will be deleted. answer like a human, not like a monkey with keyboard.

 

 Ok, now this might be a bit of a far out there idea so bear with me on this one but maybe, just maybe. I'm not saying for definite, just maybe you should stop trying to fight the tier 10s and make your credits by shooting the other tier 8s...

 

I know, I know, it's a radical concept this "thinking" malarkey but give it a go it could work out for you!



Xandania #30 Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:36 AM

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Not the time to grind the AT15 atm - on the other hand.... Who still remembers the weak spots now that nearly everything can pen it from almost every angle? ^^

Lomion_EU #31 Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:42 AM

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View Postwot_troll_victim, on 19 June 2017 - 06:12 PM, said:

yesterday i played 21 battles with tier VIII premium vehicles. 1 of those was in tier VIII, 1 in tier IX and the 19 rest in tier X!!!!!

this is not the actual problem. the actual problem is that the opposite teams were consisted by heavies that their lowest armor was higher than my highest penetration. so, if i need premium shells to confront them, how am i supposed to increase my profit?? also, the tier X meds and heavies have significantly higher firepower than my tier VIII tanks. i am shooting peanuts and they are shooting nuclear.

i.e. T54mod1 played 7 battles, all 7 in tier X ffs!!!! i sent a ticket regarding this non-sense, and they replied that the fact they advertise better profit with prem tanks does not mean that they guarantee proper matchmaking to do that. so, they are just fooling the people around. no more premium account for me, neither in-game gold.

idiotic replies like "check your wn8,you are bad player,uninstall etc" will be deleted. answer like a human, not like a monkey with keyboard.

 

The Only T8's that I'm playing a the moment are the High Pen TD's (Strv S1 and Charioteer - although I also have the T28 Prot and the Jpz II in the garage) , they have no real problem vs t10 with 250 Pens easy damage and good profits.  Playing T8 prem meds and heavies (with the exception of the Lowe and the T34) are simply no go's at this stage.  They'll sort it out soon.tm

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 19 June 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

 

So again, the theory is that tier 8's are almost always bottom tier, but tier 7's and 6's are also almost always bottom tier? How exactly does the math work on that?

 

There's a lot of tier 8 players, all that "rarely sees tier 6" adds up for the tier 6 guys.

 

Idk about tier 7, t7 lights at least get pretty good MM with a lot of top tier.



Balc0ra #33 Posted 20 June 2017 - 12:57 PM

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That's why we play limited MM tanks. As my SP don't see many tier 9 games even.

 

But then again that's the reason why the IS-6 is terrible now. As +1 MM makes it see equal tier games rather often. And 175 pen or 219 APCR pen vs 240mm cupolas, or 230mm effective lower plates is not ideal either. As that's what the HT line has these days.



Enterprise_NCC1701A #34 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:08 PM

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View PostRichthoffen, on 20 June 2017 - 06:21 AM, said:

try platooning with this new MM.. bottom tier every time.

tier 6, you get into a tier 8 battle, tier 7 gets you into tier 9 and tier 8 lands you a nice tier 10 battle most of the time

 

Not true, once i made a dynamic platoon in game and proceed to next with a platoon of 3 t-67s, Bottom tier obviously BUT enemy had 2 cromB + Rudy. That was the first and only attempt to play in a platoon, not because of the tier, but the injustice the mm brings to poor standard accounts...

wot_troll_victim #35 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:34 PM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 June 2017 - 09:58 AM, said:

 

 Ok, now this might be a bit of a far out there idea so bear with me on this one but maybe, just maybe. I'm not saying for definite, just maybe you should stop trying to fight the tier 10s and make your credits by shooting the other tier 8s...

 

I know, I know, it's a radical concept this "thinking" malarkey but give it a go it could work out for you!

 

i could do that, but most of the times there are only 2-3 tier 8s per team. so....

 



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View Postwot_troll_victim, on 20 June 2017 - 06:34 PM, said:

 

i could do that, but most of the times there are only 2-3 tier 8s per team. so....

 

 

Most of the time there are 7 T8 and 5 T9s It's templated now, so I'm not sure it's even possible to get 3 T8 unless you are top in a match with 7 T6. It 100% isn't the norm.

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 20 June 2017 - 11:58 AM, said:

 

 Ok, now this might be a bit of a far out there idea so bear with me on this one but maybe, just maybe. I'm not saying for definite, just maybe you should stop trying to fight the tier 10s and make your credits by shooting the other tier 8s...

 

I know, I know, it's a radical concept this "thinking" malarkey but give it a go it could work out for you!

 

In theory that sounds reasonable, in WOT really sadly a lot of maps are just 2 corridors and the small fry usually hides behind the "big boys". So in order to get to them you have to get through Maus and Type 5 first. And better pray your "big boys" did not went to some useless place --happens all the freaking time!!!-- because then their tier x will just eat your low tiers alive.

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View PostNiemandXL, on 21 June 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

 

In theory that sounds reasonable, in WOT really sadly a lot of maps are just 2 corridors and the small fry usually hides behind the "big boys". So in order to get to them you have to get through Maus and Type 5 first. And better pray your "big boys" did not went to some useless place --happens all the freaking time!!!-- because then their tier x will just eat your low tiers alive.

 

View PostNiemandXL, on 21 June 2017 - 06:50 AM, said:

 

In theory that sounds reasonable, in WOT really sadly a lot of maps are just 2 corridors and the small fry usually hides behind the "big boys". So in order to get to them you have to get through Maus and Type 5 first. And better pray your "big boys" did not went to some useless place --happens all the freaking time!!!-- because then their tier x will just eat your low tiers aliv

 

my point exactly. especially me, a noob player, i am having troubles to get through those monsters and start padding some damage for exp and credits. i try to spot more than damaging, but still my view range is overrun by tier X meds heavies and lights.

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View PostZorbiitti, on 20 June 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

I have no problems with playing against tier X with my tier VIII's, it's actually fun to be underdog...

 

Lots of fun when your tier 8s have sub-200 mm of pen and all you see are tier X tanks.

 

Please don't reply with use premium ammo, that isn't the solution. Losing 20 - 30k credits on a standard account trying to be competitive is not the answer.



IncandescentGerbil #40 Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:57 AM

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Maybe I am just weird but I mostly don't care about the MM. There are enough tier VIII in any tier X game to make it possible for the bottom tier to have an impact. The other side of the coin is that when I'm in my T57 etc, I can have a lot of fun.
My main issue is the fact that my only Tier VIII premium, the mod 1, is now hopelessly outlassed by all the Defenders and Skorpions etc.





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