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qpranger #1 Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:04 PM

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It is as if one team is pre-programmed to lose,

same typical 15-3 steamrolls again and again.

As abysmal as Random battles, what is the point honestly_?

We should expect more from this special Tier 10 mode, better balance.

Same battle "quality" as tier 1, but with x10 times the repair costs. 

Not a contest of skill. Not worth the time and the effort. 

 



h4ctor #2 Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:13 PM

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i was in situation 4v2 in batchat against two 140s - easy powerplay we coulda killed both

 

what did our two 140 do? they run away

 

its not preprogrammed,its the simple fact that even the biggest criples get to have a tier 10 tank



Achibot #3 Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:23 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 19 June 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

It is as if one team is pre-programmed to lose,

same typical 15-3 steamrolls again and again.

As abysmal as Random battles, what is the point honestly_?

We should expect more from this special Tier 10 mode, better balance.

Same battle "quality" as tier 1, but with x10 times the repair costs. 

Not a contest of skill. Not worth the time and the effort. 

 

 

How many points have you acquired so far?



NeroMira #4 Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:29 PM

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I agree with qpranger.

There is no point to continue to play this mode.

Today in 11 games i lost 8...and i have a win rate off 52.5%, a wn8 off 1521.

This mode is bull.

I missed shoots in this mode that in normal battles never missed

Every single tank i play with is spoted, no matter what i do, in this mode. In normal battles i can play in the exact same way without being spoted.

This battle mode stinks baddly...it is fixed and programed for  a predetermined team win.

 



Junglist_ #5 Posted 19 June 2017 - 09:42 PM

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It's full tier 10 and a lot of people know when to be aggressive and if the other team don't adapt quickly it's a quick game. And because of the chevron system instead of people reacting correctly they run away in the corner.

HundeWurst #6 Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:19 PM

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If you want to rig your very own MM and RNG you just have to purchase a "Fort Knox" package!

 

Come on qpranger! BASICS! You aint never gonna get yourself that CC status if you make such silly mistakes.



crs_tzep #7 Posted 19 June 2017 - 10:20 PM

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I have 8 POINTS IN RANKED from stage 1 + stage 2, and it makes me sick to play because of the gold+arty combo and the toxicity of people that try to farm exp! More then 4 POINTS per stage I can't do becuse of real life. After the ranked 1 beta is over I will not have bonds to buy 1 EQUIPMENT. For me there will not be Ranked 2!

 

WG YOU FORCED US TO PLAY but I got revenge in the fact that I play without premium and I didn'T invest anything since last year.

 

You know what is funny : I have friends that admited to cheat in raked and they are in top 700!


Edited by crs_tzep, 19 June 2017 - 10:22 PM.


clixor #8 Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:19 PM

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View PostNeroMira, on 19 June 2017 - 09:29 PM, said:

I agree with qpranger.

There is no point to continue to play this mode.

Today in 11 games i lost 8...and i have a win rate off 52.5%, a wn8 off 1521.

This mode is bull.

I missed shoots in this mode that in normal battles never missed

Every single tank i play with is spoted, no matter what i do, in this mode. In normal battles i can play in the exact same way without being spoted.

This battle mode stinks baddly...it is fixed and programed for  a predetermined team win.

 

 

Not to be harsh, but according to noobmeter you don't have ANY tier10 where you have a 50%+ wr in. You score a 44% wr in your FVB and your av. played tier is tier6.

 

Next thing is you are playing against players who have played loads and loads of battles and have maxed out crew skills and most of them using food. This means that, yes, you get spotted almost directly because you are not playing against bots with 50% crews. 

 

 



sbosog #9 Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:53 PM

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Well to my own experience... (by the way I lost the entire 1 stage cause of that ridiculous time cap):P

I was finally able to test this mode. After struggling to get the first 2 ranks, mostly because of the mix of players skills, :child:playing to get the 3rd rank was more pleasant. On the upper ranks people reacts faster and have a better understanding of the map and thus it's better. What I mean is that u don't feel completely frustrated because u have a more fair chance to pull the game up. 

 

Now regarding ranks, I think un should keep ranks when u get them, loosing them is frustrating and provokes a way to carefull game style because u don't want to lose your precious rank... maybe the solution to this could be to make ranks permanent and to add chevrons to get them... 

 

Well that's at least my opinion about it :hiding: and I think this game mode is fine and give players that have and enjoy top tier play an option to find more content... 

 



Enderman21 #10 Posted 20 June 2017 - 12:29 AM

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So many uniscum bots in this mode. They see their team losing and instead of giving everything they have got to win, they just run as fast as they can towards the red line, so they can camp like absolute [edited]and farm damage to get in top 3 by experience and get a chevron. 

lafeel #11 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:01 AM

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Solution: Don't play ranked battles.

Ankara_Aatu #12 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:26 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 19 June 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

 

Same battle "quality" as tier 1, but with x10 times the repair costs. 

 

 

Tier 1 has no repair costs.

ZeeAa #13 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:47 AM

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View PostNeroMira, on 19 June 2017 - 08:29 PM, said:

Today in 11 games i lost 8...and i have a win rate off 52.5%, a wn8 off 1521.

 

 

Why are you talking about WN8? There are not WN8 expected values for ranked battles. The values would obviously be very different than randoms as ranked is tier X only. 

 

How would you know if value of 1521 is good or bad? My educated guess it's fairly good. You think it's bad.



TankkiPoju #14 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:51 AM

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I like ranked battles.

 

But I only play them a few every week, as I see zero reason to go past ranks 2-3... it's just not worth the time. But tbh the same is true for any grinding. If I played more than that, I would probably hate ranked too.

 

It's the same for actually any kind of WoT playing these days.

 



lonigus #15 Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:00 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 19 June 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

It is as if one team is pre-programmed to lose,

same typical 15-3 steamrolls again and again.

As abysmal as Random battles, what is the point honestly_?

We should expect more from this special Tier 10 mode, better balance.

Same battle "quality" as tier 1, but with x10 times the repair costs. 

Not a contest of skill. Not worth the time and the effort. 

 

Its fast due to the typical CW behavior. Usually decided in the medium brawl spots rather fast. Only Arctic region comes to my mind in which the games drag out longer. I agree tho that rather often the game decides for the most part when it gives one team the bigger amount of mediums on maps like Highway or Steppes and/or more heavy tanks on Himmels or Ruinberg. There needs to be a MM rule which pairs the heavy and mediums correctly.

 

View PostTankkiPoju, on 20 June 2017 - 07:51 AM, said:

I like ranked battles.

 

But I only play them a few every week, as I see zero reason to go past ranks 2-3... it's just not worth the time. But tbh the same is true for any grinding. If I played more than that, I would probably hate ranked too.

 

It's the same for actually any kind of WoT playing these days.

 

You should focus on getting atleast rank 4 since you get the five 50% credit boosters!



TankkiPoju #16 Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:52 AM

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View Postlonigus, on 20 June 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

You should focus on getting atleast rank 4 since you get the five 50% credit boosters!

 

:amazed:

 

Wat. I didn't even know this. Screw bonds, I want those boosters.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 20 June 2017 - 09:52 AM.


signal11th #17 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:21 AM

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tried this mode again last night .... never again even worse than historical mode..

Mentlgen #18 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

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View Postlonigus, on 20 June 2017 - 08:00 AM, said:

You should focus on getting atleast rank 4 since you get the five 50% credit boosters!

Yep, this is only reason why i play ranked battles. I really liked this mode for the first couple of days, since there was actual teamplay, but now it's just like randoms with extra gold spam - 2/3 of the teammates just sit and do nothing, can't push anything cause everyone is afraid of scratching paint on tanks. Ranks are completely useless, it's just a matter of grinding. Also the fact that wg stated that in order to get the prizes you have to be in top 50% , but in reality you probably have to be in atleast top 10% to even get in 3rd league - it's not worth the effort.


Edited by Mentlgen, 20 June 2017 - 10:43 AM.


Jumping_Turtle #19 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:46 AM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 19 June 2017 - 10:19 PM, said:

 "Fort Knox"

 

/me waits till a wild Shishx appears...



truoste #20 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:47 AM

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View Postlonigus, on 20 June 2017 - 07:00 AM, said:

 

You should focus on getting atleast rank 4 since you get the five 50% credit boosters!

If you are not seriously trying to get to rewards (leagues 1-3) you should leave it to 13 points total. That will exclude you from rewardless league and at the same time, make the rewarded portion smaller. Why would you take part in "donating" more equipment to others in the mode that rewards extremely selfish play?


Edited by truoste, 20 June 2017 - 10:49 AM.





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