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Achibot #1 Posted 19 June 2017 - 11:41 PM

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Now in Week 3 there are approx 11k Ranked Players with the cutoff currently on 10 points. Very few people on 10-11 points will reach 16 points by the time the final ranking table issues this day week. Assuming every player currently on 12 points begins next week on 16, unlikely to say the least, there will be approximately 6k Ranked Players remaining. Of course there will still be a week for people below 16 points to earn their way past 16 points and on to the Leaderboard, but absolutely no incentive for them to do so as they will not qualify for a prize. We are also assuming 0 quitters of Ranked amongst those between 12 and 15 points, which is very generous.

 

Indeed with almost full two weeks of play left the person in place 1500 has 17 points. Assuming a slight dropoff in interest towards the end, let's say that in two weeks time you will only need 30 points to be in that position. I wouldn't call that a best case scenario but I do think it's a pretty optimistic one.

 

How many of you guys still playing Ranked and hoping for a prize think you will get to 30 points? What's your thinking here?


Edited by Achibot, 26 June 2017 - 10:19 AM.


ammarmar #2 Posted 20 June 2017 - 12:16 AM

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I think this game mode will die just like all those other game modes that required changing "Random battle" to anything else, pick specific vehicle and so on. Too much hassle.

 

In case of ranked battles, I'd blame the tier X exclusivity - basically, it means you cannot play this mode all the time (because you will lose credits) and switching back and forth is tiresome.



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View PostAchibot, on 20 June 2017 - 12:41 AM, said:

Now in Week 3 there are approx 11k Ranked Players with the cutoff currently on 10 points. Very few people on 10-11 points will reach 16 points by the time the final ranking table issues this day week. Assuming every player currently on 12 points begins next week on 16, unlikely to say the least, there will be approximately 6k Ranked Players remaining. Of course there will still be a week for people below 16 points to earn their way past 16 points and on to the Leaderboard, but absolutely no incentive for them to do so as they will not qualify for a prize. We are also assuming 0 quitters of Ranked amongst those between 12 and 15 points, which is very generous.

 

Indeed with almost full two weeks of play left the person in place 1500 has 17 points. Assuming a slight dropoff in interest towards the end, let's say that in two weeks time you will only need 30 points to be in that position. I wouldn't call that a best case scenario but I do think it's a pretty optimistic one.

 

How many of you guys still playing Ranked and hoping for a prize think you will get to 30 points? What's your thinking here?

 

Ranked battle statistics.

 

2nd stage

 

1st day -14500 players in Leader board.

No rewards for 7250 players.

 

2nd day - 19490 players in Leader board. +4990 newcomers

No rewards for 9748 players.They have 7 rank points.

 

3rd day - 22800 players in Leader board. +3310 newcomers

No rewards for 11 400 players.They still have 7 rank points.

 

4th day - 25740 players in Leader board. + 2940 newcomers

No rewards for 12864.They still have 7 rank points.

 

5th day - 28220 players in Leader board. + 2480 newcomers

No rewards for 14113.They still have 7 rank points.

 

6th day - 30410 players in Leader board. + 2190 newcomers

 

7th day - 32420 players in Leader board. + 2010 newcomers.

 

1st stage - 2nd stage

90 000 - 32420=57580

 

57580 players from 90 000 players do not want or can not get 6 rank points to jump in Leader board in 2nd stage.

Only 1/3, 32420 players from 90000 jump in Leader board in 2nd stage. :)

 

In last day of 2nd stage I saw ONLY 1 orange player in 5th rank, he had 44% random stats, 600 avg dmg.

 

3rd stage.

1st day - 11110 players in Leader board.

 

To jump in:

1st league u need RP 18 - 57

2nd league u need RP 15 - 18

3rd league u need RP 12 - 15

12 RP no rewards border.

 

I have 388 place in 1st league with 23 RP.

I hope I will get 5th rank also in 3rd, and 4th stage.And also, I hope I can rank some vehicle.In 1st stage I rank 2 vehicle RP, 2nd stage 5 vehicle RP.Lets see how the things will go on.:)

 

 

 

 

View Postammarmar, on 20 June 2017 - 01:16 AM, said:

I think this game mode will die just like all those other game modes that required changing "Random battle" to anything else, pick specific vehicle and so on. Too much hassle.

 

In case of ranked battles, I'd blame the tier X exclusivity - basically, it means you cannot play this mode all the time (because you will lose credits) and switching back and forth is tiresome.

 

10 tier Ranked battles are very good idea.

When u finally explore, and buy 10 tier vehicle, u can go Random, SH, SH Adv, CW, and Ranked.

All modes are OK, but Ranked is something new.Just choose 10 tier tank, press Battle and fight.Nice.Just need wait Prime Time.

For CW u need wait season, clan mates, battle time, 15 minutes waste time in queue, for SH Adv the same, only if u are legionaire, other clan commander can kick u out of team after 1 battle, just cause his clan mate awake from afk :angry:,

In SH u also need wait for team forming 30 minutes, sometimes wasted time cause nobody wants fight :angry:.Boring.

 

New mode, Ranked battle.

Very cool idea.

Plenty different emotions every battle, some times positives some times negatives, depends of team mates and tactics they use...:teethhappy:

Also chevron and ranks achieving system very addictive and funny.Black and white emotions again.

When u lose chevron or rank u stay dark green of anger and u want to kick PC out of window, when u get chevron or rank u want to kiss your monitor in deep pleasure. :)

 

Of course Ranked battles are very expensive mode, due to excessive use of premium ammo, to stay competitive.

But.

U have choice, time or money.

U can grind credits in random with premium vehicle with standart acc.

U can grind credits faster in random using premium vehicles and premium acc.

U can go earn resources in SH and after collecting some recourse, switch 2 hour reserves to boost your credits.Lucky works with 10 tier, and more credits in team based battles.

 

Or u can buy Fort Knoxx and dont care about time.:teethhappy:

 

So stop whine and do something, just sitting in chair and whine and blame all world and everything in WoT u just show your weak mind and how negative and weak man u are.

 

For you.

Imagine 2011 year in WoT.

 

1. No personal reserves.

2. No personal missions.

3. No weekly, monthly missions.

4. No free 8 tier premium vehicles marathons.

5. No brit arty.

6. No czech vehicles.

7. No swedish vehicles.

8. No 9. 10 tier arty.

9. U cant jump or drive down from cliffs and hills.

10. Chaffee plays with 10 tier.

11. 1 - 30 arty in every battle.Sometimes 10-12 arty per team.

12. No 9-10 tier LT.

13. No SH, no CW for 8 tier.

14. No xvm, no mods.

15. No personal mods in game client.Last known enemy pos. and others...

16. No HD vehicles.

17. No top 3 vehicle missions.

18. No japan vehicles.

19. No chinese vehicles.

20. no no no no no ....tired to write....:trollface:

 



Search_Warrant #4 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:16 AM

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Ugh.. i wana TRY ranked but all i have is a OBJ268 and id rather cut my wrists than play that heap of junk.

CoDiGGo #5 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:27 AM

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Chronology: 1. Nice, going to fight for League 2 rewards 

                     2. 16 points rule....lol....really wg?.... bye       

            

 

         3. Waiting for more lol and forum discussion when only 1 k (hahahahah ) players get rewards. " I have played 50 hours and not enter rewards              fuuuuuu" = 50 hours for 30% of a little better equipment, nice investment ! :trollface:


Edited by CoDiGGo, 20 June 2017 - 01:35 AM.


ZeeAa #6 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:28 AM

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I don't get OPs point.

 

So rewards are not prices?  Because everyone gets some rewards.



_Welshy_ #7 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:37 AM

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Played 3 games then stopped playing.

 

Reason for me to not bother with ranked even though I would like the better equipment to hold an advantage over others.

I feel ranked should be open all day not just a few hours

I feel tier 8 or 6 would have been better than tier 10

Game mode is expensive

Everyone fires gold yes me included. if you cannot beat them join them

Most of the time the game comes down to who has the most heavies or Type 5/Mauses

Incentive to camp and let your team mates die whilst you get all that lovely damage just so you can be top 3 losing

 

 



ammarmar #8 Posted 20 June 2017 - 03:43 AM

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Also, I don't understand, why is this game mode only active during specific hours? Is there anything else they could invent to limit the popularity of Ranked battles? This thing is a corpse. It can already say hello to Historical battles, Rampage, Confrontation etc.

 

BTW, I wonder who got the idea that all-tier X battles are a great "End game". Same tier games are boring as hell. There's no point getting the best tank when everybody around has the same thing. It could be just as well an all-tier V or all-tier VII battle. It didn't work for Rampage (and it had better rewards). Why beat the dead horse again?



truoste #9 Posted 20 June 2017 - 06:39 AM

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If you really want those rewards then I suggest you start grinding like crazy as this is very likely to be the peak for the mode unless they change it drastically. Future seasons will very likely have less players i.e. harder for you to get to top 50%. 

 

I am still going for this first season just to see how it goes but I have already made up my mind about how much fun this is: it is not for me. Reading trough comments and impressions of other people I assume that I am not alone. 



lonigus #10 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:42 AM

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View Postammarmar, on 20 June 2017 - 03:43 AM, said:

Also, I don't understand, why is this game mode only active during specific hours? Is there anything else they could invent to limit the popularity of Ranked battles? This thing is a corpse. It can already say hello to Historical battles, Rampage, Confrontation etc.

 

It is restricted to prevent two things:

 

1. limited the no-lifers spamming the mode

2. testing out the MM and obviously they were not sure how much people will play so they decided to "squeeze" it into a time window to narrow the ranks in the MM.

 

And no... It wont die. That depends on a few factors tho.

 

1. More ranks to grind past rank 5 (not just tanks specific) giving people more longer term goals

2. A change in the bonds earning during the stages. They should be cumulative and not just give the amount on the end rank at the stage end.

3. Even the heavy and medium amount in teams. There is enoudh heavy tank players to easily do it.

4. Limit arties to max 1 in each team. 

5. Change the league reqs accordingly with time progression and activity fluctuation within the mode.


Edited by lonigus, 20 June 2017 - 07:42 AM.


Achibot #11 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:19 PM

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View PostZeeAa, on 20 June 2017 - 12:28 AM, said:

I don't get OPs point.

 

So rewards are not prices?  Because everyone gets some rewards.

 

You gain rewards week-by-week and rank-by-rank but these are separate from the prizes awarded for a Top 50% Ranked League position after 4 weeks. The problem here is that it's not going to be 50% of a whole lot of people at the end because of the way the League was structured.



EggyTheGumGumChewer #12 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:49 PM

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The ranked system is extremely flawed as WG makes it harder and harder to stay in the leagues throughout the season. Would rather see a system where you know from the beginning how many points are expected.

For example:
16 points: League 3 rewards
22 points: League 2 rewards
28 points: League 1 rewards

fabse #13 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:19 PM

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View Postlonigus, on 20 June 2017 - 06:42 AM, said:

 

It is restricted to prevent two things:

 

1. limited the no-lifers spamming the mode

2. testing out the MM and obviously they were not sure how much people will play so they decided to "squeeze" it into a time window to narrow the ranks in the MM.

 

3. Prevent people from massive rigging during hours of low server population.

 

On topic: This mode is not for me. I like to play with friends which is not possible here. Also I dont have enough time to really grind the mode either.

Sure, the equip is tempting, but there is just no way it is worth the time investment for me. My only hope is that WG eventually enables players like me to gain bonds on a second way.

 

My prediction: The mode will not be long lived.


Edited by fabse, 20 June 2017 - 02:23 PM.


fighting_falcon93 #14 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:31 PM

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Yes, WG should stop to exclude players from the rankings. Sadly I wrote it in my feedback thread, still no change though. But I can already guess what we'll see in the end of next week... Uppermost elite gets 2000 gold and a massive amount of bonds, meanwhile the average players can once again be happy to get no reward at all. In my case I've put in about 70-80 hours into this game mode so far, and what will I get? Not even 100% sure if I'll make it into league 2. Fantastic game mode, great incentive to keep playing next month.

fighting_falcon93 #15 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:33 PM

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View Postfabse, on 20 June 2017 - 02:19 PM, said:

3. Prevent people from massive rigging during hours of low server population.

 

And how exactly do you want to rig a game that's not about missions but about getting top on xp? If you help someone else getting xp, you'll get less xp yourself. If you both shoot at each other, you're playing the game normally...



fighting_falcon93 #16 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:35 PM

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View PostEggyTheGumGumChewer, on 20 June 2017 - 01:49 PM, said:

The ranked system is extremely flawed as WG makes it harder and harder to stay in the leagues throughout the season. Would rather see a system where you know from the beginning how many points are expected.

For example:
16 points: League 3 rewards
22 points: League 2 rewards
28 points: League 1 rewards

 

This, +1000000. WG, can you please listen for once and implement this? 



HeathLedger_ #17 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:35 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 20 June 2017 - 02:31 PM, said:

Yes, WG should stop to exclude players from the rankings. Sadly I wrote it in my feedback thread, still no change though. But I can already guess what we'll see in the end of next week... Uppermost elite gets 2000 gold and a massive amount of bonds, meanwhile the average players can once again be happy to get no reward at all. In my case I've put in about 70-80 hours into this game mode so far, and what will I get? Not even 100% sure if I'll make it into league 2. Fantastic game mode, great incentive to keep playing next month.


1.5 equipment piece isn't a lot m8. It's still [edited]chump change compared to the ridiculous amount of effort it takes to get there seeing as everything from rank 3 and up is just who grinded more tank ranks.



fighting_falcon93 #18 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:42 PM

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View PostHeathLedger_, on 20 June 2017 - 02:35 PM, said:

1.5 equipment piece isn't a lot m8. It's still [edited]chump change compared to the ridiculous amount of effort it takes to get there seeing as everything from rank 3 and up is just who grinded more tank ranks.

 

Yes, I agree that it's isn't a lot compared to how much equipment costs, but compare it to league 2 and 3 rewards. League 1 gets much more bonds than league 2 and 3, but how many players will get into league 1?

 

WG has this talent of making a lie sound as the trouth. They said that top 10% gets into league 1. Yeah, but it's not the top 10% of the participators, it's the top 10% of those not excluded...



h4ctor #19 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:45 PM

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funny thing is people were angry about improved equipment to destroy randoms

 

it turned out,those people who actually get the bonds have to play a ton of ranked battles and have barely time to play randoms at all

 

if anything,ranked battles cleared the randoms of those really really good players


Edited by h4ctor, 20 June 2017 - 02:46 PM.


Achibot #20 Posted 20 June 2017 - 05:48 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 20 June 2017 - 01:31 PM, said:

Yes, WG should stop to exclude players from the rankings. Sadly I wrote it in my feedback thread, still no change though. But I can already guess what we'll see in the end of next week... Uppermost elite gets 2000 gold and a massive amount of bonds, meanwhile the average players can once again be happy to get no reward at all. In my case I've put in about 70-80 hours into this game mode so far, and what will I get? Not even 100% sure if I'll make it into league 2. Fantastic game mode, great incentive to keep playing next month.

 

This captures the issue with the long-term viability of this mode perfectly. It really is unsustainable in it's current form. The question now really is whether Wargaming will actually try and iterate on what they've got or carry on asking us to be patient while the all-powerful HD Rock is crafted nano-pixel by nano-pixel. I think I know the answer, from past experience, but I'm interested to see what happens nonetheless.





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