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CountBogro #1 Posted 20 June 2017 - 06:21 AM

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I want a crew-trainer for my German Medium tanks - which is currently better for that the PZ.58 Mutz or the Panter 88 ?

SuperOlsson #2 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:04 AM

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I'd say Mutz due to the better mobility, but don't expect any miracles from any of them. I don't have the 88 but i can say that the mutz is a lot better than both Indien panzer and Panther 2, which both are giant sluggish snailboxes in comparison.

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I can say that the Mutz is almost exactly the same as the indien panzer. Same Edited gun. You aim. You miss. You don't aim. You miss.

 

I don't understand how you can call the indien panzer sluggish. It isn't. Pretty similar to the mutz.

 

I wouldn't buy any tier 8 premium at the moment though. Tier 8 gameplay is just broken.


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Hedgehog1963 #4 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:38 AM

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Mutz. 

Junglist_ #5 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:39 AM

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Mutz is better IMO but as monkey said tier 8 mm is broken and you will be bottom tier most of the time so I can't recommend buying any of the tier 8 prems.

TankkiPoju #6 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:43 AM

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Both are Edited  in current meta.

 

Mutz is still probably better from those two.


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Unkel_Dolan #7 Posted 20 June 2017 - 07:48 AM

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View PostCountBogro, on 20 June 2017 - 06:21 AM, said:

I want a crew-trainer for my German Medium tanks - which is currently better for that the PZ.58 Mutz or the Panter 88 ?

 

Mutz has 4 crew members, Panther 88 has 5, so it depends which medium line crew you want to train

dennez #8 Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:34 AM

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Neither.. DONT get a tier 8 prem medium in the current state of tier 8 MM. They're utterly useless.

gpalsson #9 Posted 20 June 2017 - 08:35 AM

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dennez #10 Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:06 AM

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And to add to this.. Just buy a Panther M10 from the techtree with gold. Its a great tank in tier 7, which is NOT broken and actually fun. Dont get a tier 8. Just.. Dont.

shishx_the_animal #11 Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:07 AM

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Don't buy a Tier 8 Premium tank in the current meta.

JuliusCheddar #12 Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:09 AM

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I'd say panther, at least it has SOMETHING going for it. Still, don't buy tier 8 premiums as their MM is utter disaster. If you want to train German crews, buy panther m10

magkiln #13 Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:21 AM

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Panther 88 is basically a Panther II clone and just as annoying. The Mutz was OP when introduced and would till be OK if you didn't end up being low tier so often. That said, if crewtraining is your goal, you have to look at the number of crewmembers to see which suits you better.

s3thus #14 Posted 20 June 2017 - 09:24 AM

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Both used to be decent, average tanks. But the wave of new op T8 premiums completely ruined them.

CountBogro #15 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:22 AM

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That's very clear then - thanks to all.

It's going to be the Panter/M10 :)

 

Odd to, you doubting between two and take a third ;)


 

Much appreciated!


 

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signal11th #16 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:23 AM

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View Postdennez, on 20 June 2017 - 07:34 AM, said:

Neither.. DONT get a tier 8 prem medium in the current state of tier 8 MM. They're utterly useless.

 

UNLESS you have defender or scorpion g.

JuliusCheddar #17 Posted 20 June 2017 - 10:27 AM

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View Postsignal11th, on 20 June 2017 - 10:23 AM, said:

 

UNLESS you have defender or scorpion g.

Almost like defender was more pleasant to play against tier Xs than any other tier 8.



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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 20 June 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

Almost like defender was more pleasant to play against tier Xs than any other tier 8.

 

That's because the Defender (like the Is-3) is pretty much a tier 9 tank.

Lomion_EU #19 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:14 PM

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Neither are great at the moment, not just the MM problem, but also the fact that T8 has powercrept these tanks out of the game.  As Shishx Dennez stated, get the Panther M10 its been recently buffed and T7 is a nice place to be at the moment.

 

I've parked both the 8.8 and the Mutz in favour of the M10.


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dennez #20 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:17 PM

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View PostLomion_EU, on 20 June 2017 - 01:14 PM, said:

.  As Shishx stated, get the Panther M10

 

 

:(

But i get the confusion, we have the same playstyle. Its just that he gets lucky more often is all..

 






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