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_Anarchistic_ #1 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:41 PM

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every battle today, 8, is full gold, literally full gold from every enemy tank.  whats the point of playing I don't have that sort of money to throw around and it makes the game so imbalanced.  even in Maus I cant defend against 15 players all spamming gold (although I get it when firing at a maus !!), every angle gold, every autoloader gold, every type 5 gold, every batchat gold

 

today I quit for a bit, I don't understand why people cant play with skill instead of pay to win

 a few players, a few shots sure that's normal, but today every idiot every shot gold regardless of what he shooting at

 

its their money I guess, and its in the game but this was off the reservation lol:amazed:



Dropman12 #2 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:45 PM

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Ofcourse you cant defend against 15 players in Maus...no tank should do fine against overhelming numbers. Angle, dont get hit or dont be seen. Super heavy tanks were always vulnerable to gold ammo, but hey - who isnt?

ricoBenitez1 #3 Posted 20 June 2017 - 01:53 PM

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The poor ones allways whine.

Squirting_Elephant #4 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:03 PM

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I also shoot gold left and right vs tier 6 tanks. Why? Because if I drive a premium tank anyway, it pays for itself. T34, Scorpion for example, no reason not to shoot gold. I shoot 320 pen shots into tier 6 tanks. I don't care. I pen everything, easy xp, easy crew training, makes me feel good. Don't even care if you drive a Maus with weakspots hidden, I pen you anyway frontally in your turret as a bottom tier tank from across the map and there is NOTHING they can do about it. You can't even sidescrape vs this.

 

If they nerf gold ammo then they also indirectly nerf some premium tanks like Scorp G really badly. Gold spam is also what makes Mauss, E100, E75, Jagdtiger, etc so paper. If E75 angles upper front  plate and is hull down, you just pen his turret around the mantlet. It's only 250mm armor which for gold ammo = joke on those tiers.

 

But it also annoys me that medium tanks pen my strongest spots on JT from across the map... My armor... Worthless! Same with Crysler, get penned in turret, upper frontal plate, etc. All gold ammo.


Edited by Squirting_Elephant, 20 June 2017 - 02:04 PM.


_Anarchistic_ #5 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:04 PM

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View PostricoBenitez1, on 20 June 2017 - 01:53 PM, said:

The poor ones allways whine.

 

​lol, but it irritating when you in something unarmoured and still they fire gold at you, not the one shot they might have had loaded but every subsequent  shot as well

 

and its not supposed to be a pay to win game according to their recent youtube post lol



Suurpolskija #6 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:05 PM

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So. You play Maus and complain about gold spam. That's like playing Jap heavies and complaining about arty.

 

What did you think was gonna happen?



_Anarchistic_ #7 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:05 PM

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View PostSquirting_Elephant, on 20 June 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

I also shoot gold left and right vs tier 6 tanks. Why? Because if I drive a premium tank anyway, it pays for itself. T34, Scorpion for example, no reason not to shoot gold. I shoot 320 pen shots into tier 6 tanks. I don't care. I pen everything, easy xp, easy crew training, makes me feel good. Don't even care if you drive a Maus with weakspots hidden, I pen you anyway frontally in your turret as a bottom tier tank from across the map and there is NOTHING they can do about it. You can't even sidescrape vs this.

 

If they nerf gold ammo then they also indirectly nerf some premium tanks like Scorp G really badly. Gold spam is also what makes Mauss, E100, E75, Jagdtiger, etc so paper. If E75 angles upper front  plate and is hull down, you just pen his turret around the mantlet. It's only 250mm armor which for gold ammo = joke on those tiers.

 

But it also annoys me that medium tanks pen my strongest spots on JT from across the map... My armor... Worthless!

 

​I get it when shooting at a maus as I said, even tho its quite easy to just aim or flank, but not every shot at every tank, that's just sad

_Anarchistic_ #8 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:06 PM

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View PostSuurpolskija, on 20 June 2017 - 02:05 PM, said:

So. You play Maus and complain about gold spam. That's like playing Jap heavies and complaining about arty.

 

What did you think was gonna happen?

 

​as I said, I get it when playing in maus, but even so maus cans till be damaged by simple aiming, type 5s are a bit harder I admit

ThebaldEagle #9 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:08 PM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 20 June 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

 

and its not supposed to be a pay to win game according to their recent youtube post lol

i dont understand how shooting silver premammo can be p2w cuz with that mind set then "normal" ammo is allso p2w.

but then if you are happy thinking like that ok.



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View PostStewie2ie, on 20 June 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

every battle today, 8, is full gold, literally full gold from every enemy tank.  whats the point of playing I don't have that sort of money to throw around and it makes the game so imbalanced.  even in Maus I cant defend against 15 players all spamming gold (although I get it when firing at a maus !!), every angle gold, every autoloader gold, every type 5 gold, every batchat gold

 

today I quit for a bit, I don't understand why people cant play with skill instead of pay to win

 a few players, a few shots sure that's normal, but today every idiot every shot gold regardless of what he shooting at

 

its their money I guess, and its in the game but this was off the reservation lol:amazed:

 

You I think are suffering from a self-fulfilled prophecy, Try playing none BS armoured tanks and I imagine you will miraculously see much less prem ammo. Plus it's not P2W because everyone can buy it. Basically WG solved the "prem ammo for credits needs removing" question by introducing fantasy tanks that you need to spam prem at to damage, very clever of them.

Edited by signal11th, 20 June 2017 - 02:10 PM.


Suurpolskija #11 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:08 PM

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If it makes you feel any better, I've played two games today and didn't fire a single prem ammo. Tier9 games hardly ever call for those anyway. And on light tank in most cases I've noticed I only shoot things in the rear when ambushing / circling.

wEight_Tanker #12 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:14 PM

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Pay to win.

Shivva #13 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:15 PM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 20 June 2017 - 01:04 PM, said:

 

​lol, but it irritating when you in something unarmoured and still they fire gold at you, not the one shot they might have had loaded but every subsequent  shot as well

 

and its not supposed to be a pay to win game according to their recent youtube post lol

 

Absolute nonsense, If they need gold to pen you and use it then they made the right decision. if they would have pen'd you with AP anyway then it makes zero difference if they fire gold at you.. it's actually better for you as it has less normalisation so you may get a bounce of some angled parts. I'm guessing you seen some Gold Spam threads in the forum and thought you'd jump on the bandwagon...you're 4 years too late, that bandwagon left the station a long time ago.

Edited by Shivva, 20 June 2017 - 02:20 PM.


Squirting_Elephant #14 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:16 PM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 20 June 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

 

​I get it when shooting at a maus as I said, even tho its quite easy to just aim or flank, but not every shot at every tank, that's just sad

 

It's not sad it's basic math. Even if I fire every round with gold ammo, I still come out with positive credits. And a regular round may not pen if RNG decides to make my bullet hit in the turret instead of the hull I was aiming for. BUT with gold with certain tanks you can pen almost everywhere and thus you get overall more xp and more credits (at the cost of credits yes). So I fire gold ammo 90% of the time on my premium tanks even if I'm toptier tank.

 

Another reason I use gold ammo is if I have APCR rounds because they fly faster, means better hitchance as well in open maps and making it WAY easier to hit those $%#$@#$@# light tanks, which are pure evil and deserve my gold ammo rounds *insert evil laugh here*.

 

And some DERP guns also require gold ammo to deal any serious amount of damage. 200ish damage is meh, but 750 damage at cost of 1 gold round = yay. And some tanks have like 175 base pen vs tier 10... Yeah... Of course I spam gold ammo in them.


Edited by Squirting_Elephant, 20 June 2017 - 02:18 PM.


_Anarchistic_ #15 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:17 PM

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View PostThebaldEagle, on 20 June 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

i dont understand how shooting silver premammo can be p2w cuz with that mind set then "normal" ammo is allso p2w.

but then if you are happy thinking like that ok.

 

​that's easy, you will lose credits end every game pressing the 2 key so you have to buy credits or buy gold to keep your account top'd up

 

I cant afford to lose 40k credits every game, I cant afford to use premium consumables even.  

 

I run a premium account and have a few premium vehicles but I still cannot afford to go around firing full gold from shot 1, I would need to spend a fort knox every couple of weeks to make that work



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View PostStewie2ie, on 20 June 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

even in Maus I cant defend against 15 players all spamming gold 

 

Playing a Maus and crying about people firing loads of gold at you? You're simply just getting the punishment that you deserve for playing a Maus, nothing more.



Squirting_Elephant #17 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:20 PM

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View PostStewie2ie, on 20 June 2017 - 01:17 PM, said:

I run a premium account and have a few premium vehicles but I still cannot afford to go around firing full gold from shot 1, I would need to spend a fort knox every couple of weeks to make that work

Premium acc + premium vehicle + 100% gold ammo spam = still come out with positive credits. Otherwise you do something wrong or have a premium tank with garbage alpha.



_Anarchistic_ #18 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:20 PM

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anyway, the comment was not about gold itself

 

I agree its needed to help you compete, and gold in battles is fine

 

today it was the sheer amount of gold, literally every player form the start pressing 2 key, I have never seen that before, never seen players fire gold regardless of what they are shooting at, that is what I am driving at



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Gold shells should be limited to 20% of the overall ammo count.

_Anarchistic_ #20 Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:22 PM

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View PostSquirting_Elephant, on 20 June 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

Premium acc + premium vehicle + 100% gold ammo spam = still come out with positive credits. Otherwise you do something wrong or have a premium tank with garbage alpha.

 

​you are talking about playing premiums, I am saying every tank being played, Maus, E%s, T110E3s, Grille, t-62,etc every single tank is firing gold today




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