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fighting_falcon93 #1 Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:33 PM

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Can someone please explain how the ------ clicker ---- got more xp than me? :angry:

 

 



Achibot #2 Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:36 PM

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Hey man. Jinx thread.

 

Note: Under playground forum rules, if you post again I get to punch you once in the arm for every word.


Edited by Achibot, 20 June 2017 - 11:37 PM.


Nacho__Vidal #3 Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:36 PM

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I had the same problem . ! in dameage but 7 or 8 in team . 

fighting_falcon93 #4 Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:38 PM

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View PostAchibot, on 20 June 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

Hey man. Jinx thread.

 

Note: Under playground forum rules, if you post again I get to punch you once in the arm for every word.

 

LOL 1 minute earlier, unfair plane :P

Achibot #5 Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:42 PM

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I am counting emoticons as 5 words because of the additional stress involved in processing them. You going to Tankfest by any chance?

 

Seriously though, I think your thread is bang on point. The invasion of clicker tanks is a result of them being rewarded unfairly under this, frankly obscure, "Ranked XP" system. Insult upon injury to be honest, but it's still a point worth making and I think that's well established by the fact we both posted about it within minutes of each other with different examples.



fighting_falcon93 #6 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:03 AM

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View PostAchibot, on 20 June 2017 - 11:42 PM, said:

I am counting emoticons as 5 words because of the additional stress involved in processing them. You going to Tankfest by any chance?

 

Hahaha nope, unfortunately not. But punching a Falcon on his wings is considered animal abuse anyway :P

 

View PostAchibot, on 20 June 2017 - 11:42 PM, said:

Seriously though, I think your thread is bang on point. The invasion of clicker tanks is a result of them being rewarded unfairly under this, frankly obscure, "Ranked XP" system. Insult upon injury to be honest, but it's still a point worth making and I think that's well established by the fact we both posted about it within minutes of each other with different examples.

 

I agree. And what's even more weird is that I've done twice the damage of that batchat arta in my T92, but I still didn't end up in even top 5. I have no idea how these players do it? How do these clickers get so damn high xp? :amazed:

 

 



WindSplitter1 #7 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:07 AM

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FightingFalcon had shared an interesting point in another thread, to remove artillery which would be very interesting to see in the game and would open the doors to other things.

 

I had an idea that would work very well in it that I'll share with you guys when it's ready.



h4ctor #8 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:11 AM

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he has two kills,you have none and only 900 dmg more...isnt a kill worth like 500dmg or something?

Achibot #9 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:14 AM

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And here?

 

 

Doubt I've played more than 30 Ranked Battles total and I must have half a dozen of these.



h4ctor #10 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:16 AM

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show his assisted dmg perhaps? maybe he had a lot of stuns

fighting_falcon93 #11 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:24 AM

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View Posth4ctor, on 21 June 2017 - 12:11 AM, said:

he has two kills,you have none and only 900 dmg more...isnt a kill worth like 500dmg or something?

 

I don't know about the kills, but keep in mind that the clicker didn't spot for himself, while I did.

Long_Range_Sniper #12 Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:24 AM

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View Posth4ctor, on 20 June 2017 - 11:16 PM, said:

show his assisted dmg perhaps? maybe he had a lot of stuns

 

^ THIS ^ from 9.18

 

Which is why the T92 has a lot of damage but nowhere near as much XP.

 

Now they earn XP and Credits for the damage their teammates cause to stunned targets. You can look it up in the Battle Results Screen and in your profile (the Achievement section), where it’s listed as damage caused with your assistance.



truoste #13 Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:41 AM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 20 June 2017 - 10:33 PM, said:

Can someone please explain how the ------ clicker ---- got more xp than me? :angry:

 

 

 

Kills give tons of XP. He had 2.

 

Arties seem to get impressive amounts of XP when comparing to others. Yesterday there was BC arty in my team doing some 1800 dmg and 500 assits and it got more xp than normal Batshit doing ~2000 dmg and ~1500 assist. No kills for either. Makes no sense but it seems that arties have some sort of XP multiplier that other tanks do not have.



tajj7 #14 Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:24 AM

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Arty XP is completely off and probably explains why so many are playing it in ranked, it's basically easy mode at the moment in ranked for arties.

 

  • Weird XP rewards.
  • Usually last alive on most teams so more likely to get top 3.
  • Easy mode.
  • Ranked is very campy so most games tend to last longer = more clicking. 

 

They should remove arty from ranked or overall adjust it's XP because it's currently too easy to farm XP in them with little effort, ranked is supposed to be about skill and arty is very far from skilled. 



truoste #15 Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:34 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 21 June 2017 - 08:24 AM, said:

 

 

They should remove arty from ranked or overall adjust it's XP because it's currently too easy to farm XP in them with little effort, ranked is supposed to be about skill and arty is very far from skilled. 

 

That is the way they "sell" it to people but it seems that in reality they want to keep it "accessible" to all i.e. not too harsh for bad players to put them off. 

 

From Q&A published in armored patrol: 

– Why don’t you make it harder to earn each subsequent rank? E.g. for rank 2, you have to be in top 12, for rank 3 in top 10 etc. – Too harsh, it’s simpler to increase the amount of ranks and to make the intermediate ones irrevocable.



Timewarp76 #16 Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:34 AM

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In ranked battles Kills weigh high on the experience scale. You will notice in most ranked battles the tanks with Kills are higher on the XP listing than those without any kills, regardless of damage.



fighting_falcon93 #17 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:57 PM

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View Posttruoste, on 21 June 2017 - 07:41 AM, said:

Kills give tons of XP. He had 2.

 

View Posttimewarp76, on 21 June 2017 - 09:34 AM, said:

You will notice in most ranked battles the tanks with Kills are higher on the XP listing than those without any kills, regardless of damage.

 

Yes, but if kills give that much xp, shouldn't the 50B with 3 kills be on top? The batchat arta didn't spot for himself, he did only 130 stun assist, while I did ~2k damage which I spotted myself. That's extremely wierd.

 

View Posttruoste, on 21 June 2017 - 07:41 AM, said:

Arties seem to get impressive amounts of XP when comparing to others. Yesterday there was BC arty in my team doing some 1800 dmg and 500 assits and it got more xp than normal Batshit doing ~2000 dmg and ~1500 assist. No kills for either. Makes no sense but it seems that arties have some sort of XP multiplier that other tanks do not have.

 

View Posttajj7, on 21 June 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

Arty XP is completely off and probably explains why so many are playing it in ranked, it's basically easy mode at the moment in ranked for arties.

 

Do you know how to get that much xp in arta? When I've tried to take my T92 out for a round I've done like 2-3k damage and 1k stun assist with 2 kills and still not even got top 5. Is there something wrong with T92 or is it me doing something wrong? :amazed:

 

View Posttajj7, on 21 June 2017 - 09:24 AM, said:

They should remove arty from ranked or overall adjust it's XP because it's currently too easy to farm XP in them with little effort, ranked is supposed to be about skill and arty is very far from skilled. 

 

I fully agree. And not only is it dumb to rank clickers, but they're ruining the game for everyone else aswell. As soon as there's 3 clickers on the enemy team it's better to just never get spotted unless you're hugging a building, because you'll get insta-clicked by all 3 of them. 



fighting_falcon93 #18 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:00 PM

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View PostLong_Range_Sniper, on 21 June 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

^ THIS ^ from 9.18

 

Which is why the T92 has a lot of damage but nowhere near as much XP.

 

Now they earn XP and Credits for the damage their teammates cause to stunned targets. You can look it up in the Battle Results Screen and in your profile (the Achievement section), where it’s listed as damage caused with your assistance.

 

Yeah but look at the batchat arta in the picture. He did only 130 stun assist and not even 2k damage... :amazed:

 

Seems the mistake I've been doing is to not kill steal on purpose, need to try that, great xp mechanics WG... :rolleyes:



truoste #19 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:12 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 21 June 2017 - 11:57 AM, said:

 

 

Yes, but if kills give that much xp, shouldn't the 50B with 3 kills be on top? The batchat arta didn't spot for himself, he did only 130 stun assist, while I did ~2k damage which I spotted myself. That's extremely wierd.

 

 

 

Do you know how to get that much xp in arta? When I've tried to take my T92 out for a round I've done like 2-3k damage and 1k stun assist with 2 kills and still not even got top 5. Is there something wrong with T92 or is it me doing something wrong? :amazed:

 

 

I fully agree. And not only is it dumb to rank clickers, but they're ruining the game for everyone else aswell. As soon as there's 3 clickers on the enemy team it's better to just never get spotted unless you're hugging a building, because you'll get insta-clicked by all 3 of them. 

 

Could it be that tvp spotted for himself and 50b sniped?

 

I do not know how xp is calculated but I there seem to be some very weird results very often. Likely there are more variables that are taken into account than DMG and assisted DMG/stunned DMG. All tanks are same tier so that should not matter unless WG has decided that some targets give more xp. No idea. 

 

Perhaps BC arty has xp multiplier that other arties do not share? I do not know but xp received by arties does not seem to make sense when comparing to tanks that spot for themselves or even when compared to other arties in the same game.   



ZeeAa #20 Posted 21 June 2017 - 04:13 PM

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How did you manage to get 0 assists in a medium?




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