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____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #1 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:45 PM

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Hi guys, I've seen many people showing there interest toward the Alpine Tiger report from Rita/TAP/Daily Bounce, and now I've got more screenshots of more tanks that are currently only available in Chinese server.

 

In order to make everything readable, I've replaced a few client files so that now everything except player & clan ID is in English. 

 

Let's get started -- Chieftain Mk. VI:

You can buy EVERYTHING in Chinese server (probably Bonds in future). The Chieftain Mk.VI is the most expensive tank --  around 1300 EUR (10k CNY).

P.S. u need 6k+ combined to get it 3-marked.



____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #2 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:50 PM

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Object 257:

Tier X Soviet heavy tank, loaded with a 122mm gun, similar to Object 260's.

The hull armor looks just like T-22, but the armor is even better than that.

 

Like I said, you can buy everything. The price for Object 257 is 1,118 CNY, approx. 150 EUR.



____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #3 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:53 PM

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Object 268 version 5:

Tier X Soviet tank destroyer, with a 152mm gun, 303pen/395pen, pretty the same to Object 268's. 

Approx. 150 EUR too. 



____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #4 Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:58 PM

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Object 777 II:

Tier X Soviet heavy tank. Same 122mm gun. 

Honestly, I think it gets power crept by 113. Maybe TOOOOOOOG is the only tank in WoT that's longer than it. 

 

Price: 618 CNY, around 80 EUR. 



SovietBias #5 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:07 PM

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Just curious, what's the player count there?

____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #6 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:07 PM

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VK 100.01 B:

Tier VIII German 'super' heavy tank. 

Yes, it looks EXACTLY like VK 100.01 P, but it has 490 alpha damage. 

It was on sale before the update of VK 100.01P and Mauschen. Instead of replacing this premium with the normal tier8, the Chinese server made its special premium -- VK 100.01 B. 

 

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The VK 100.01 (P) is on the Tech Tree as a researchable tank but it’s also on the Premium Shop as a regular Tier VIII Premium Tank. Yeah it’s true, there is the regular tank and the same tank but in a premium version.

 

 https://thearmoredpatrol.com/2017/04/17/a-look-at-the-chinese-server/

 

Correction: they are not the same tank. One ends with B and the other one ends with P.

 

It's only 138 CNY which is about 20 EUR.

Cheap, isn't it?

P.S. The ridiculous thing is that many other tier8 premiums such as Liberté and KV5 are only worth less than 10 EUR. They are ruined by 300pen gold which I'll mention later.



Achibot #7 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:09 PM

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€1300......

 

Still, at least now I know we'll never be getting it over here, so I can put that thought to bed.



____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #8 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:10 PM

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View PostSovietBias, on 21 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Just curious, what's the player count there?

You won't be able to see the current players available in garage, but it's likely that the player count is pretty close to EU server...maybe 150k?

It's devided to North & South and you cannot share tanks & credits & stuffs between these two servers. 

 

View PostAchibot, on 21 June 2017 - 01:09 PM, said:

€1300......

 

Still, at least now I know we'll never be getting it over here, so I can put that thought to bed.

 

The second most expensive tank is Chieftain/T95 which is only 50% of Mk.VI.

All of the other tanks are just about at most €200, but trust me the price would drop significantly soon. ;)


 

Balc0ra #9 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:13 PM

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Thing with the Chinese server is that it's not run by WG directly as such. They just pay for the rights to host it in China, and can do what every they want with it. And like console, they have access to the WG dev server. And can grab anything they want from it. Thus why the Grille 15 appeared there, before it even was done on super test here etc.

 

So they basically sell everything they get their hands on... everything. 

 

View PostSovietBias, on 21 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

Just curious, what's the player count there?

 

No idea tbh. Chinese server stats is not "shared" on the common wot stat pages. But a few months ago there was a reddit post with a screen of server stats from WG. Chinese server had more accounts, then the SEA, NA, EU and RU combined almost. If that is true, then the store there must be going "well" considering the price on some of the stuff they sell. But none of those numbers was for active accounts. Just created. And since China is the home of the gold farmers... well.

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 21 June 2017 - 01:14 PM.


____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #10 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:18 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 21 June 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

Thing with the Chinese server is that it's not run by WG directly as such. They just pay for the rights to host it in China, and can do what every they want with it. And like console, they have access to the WG dev server. And can grab anything they want from it. Thus why the Grille 15 appeared there, before it even was done on super test here etc.

 

So they basically sell everything they get their hands on... everything. 

 

 

No idea tbh. Chinese server stats is not "shared" on the common wot stat pages. But a few months ago there was a reddit post with a screen of server stats from WG. Chinese server had more accounts, then the SEA, NA, EU and RU combined almost. If that is true, then the store there must be going "well" considering the price on some of the stuff they sell. But none of those numbers was for active accounts. Just created. And since China is the home of the gold farmers... well.

 

 

Also Chinese server has sooooooo many bots. During a 15v15 random battle in midnight there are like about 15-20 bots fighting against each other lmao :P

leggasiini #11 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:22 PM

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Got any replays having gameplay footage of Object 268 V5 or Object 257? How are those tanks?


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____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #12 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:23 PM

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T92 (lt):

Tier 7 USA light tank.

0.29/0.38/1.05 terrain resistance, highest DPM among tier7 LTs, best viewrange, best camo, 10deg depression, 60 shells and 0.08/0.05 moving/turret dispersion. 

It's still gonna be a good tank if u merely increase its HP and make it a tier8. 

 

Only 70CNY / 9EUR, what a joke! Now tier7 games are just dominated by AMX 13 57 / T92 lt.



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View Post____Skorpion____, on 21 June 2017 - 12:10 PM, said:

You won't be able to see the current players available in garage, but it's likely that the player count is pretty close to EU server...maybe 150k?

It's devided to North & South and you cannot share tanks & credits & stuffs between these two servers. 

 

Oh, so when you press Esc. key it does not show? Do you have to wait for long to get a match in specific tiers/time? Thanks anyway.

I found my way to what I think is the CN premium shop, and it is indeed crazy. A lot of gold shell packages. http://mall.kongzhong.com/product/list?catID=,20000,21000,&&

Edited by SovietBias, 21 June 2017 - 01:28 PM.


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View Postleggasiini, on 21 June 2017 - 01:22 PM, said:

Got any replays having gameplay footage of Object 268 V5 or Object 257? How are those tanks?

 

Not really good. Comparing to object268, V5 sacrificed too much just for a turret while 257 is too slow and the gun dispersion is too bad. I can show u some stats after I've posted all screenshots.
 

View PostSovietBias, on 21 June 2017 - 01:24 PM, said:

 

Oh, so when you press Esc. key it does not show? Do you have to wait for long to get a match in specific tiers/time? Thanks anyway.

I found my way to what I think is the CN premium shop, and it is indeed crazy. A lot of gold shell packages. (http://mall.kongzhon...000,21000,&;)

 

No it doesn't show. If u want to transfer to another sever u must choose 'disconnect' first as well. For a game... usually less than 10 seconds. And bingo u've got the correct website ;)
 

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View PostBalc0ra, on 21 June 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

Thing with the Chinese server is that it's not run by WG directly as such. They just pay for the rights to host it in China, and can do what every they want with it. And like console, they have access to the WG dev server. And can grab anything they want from it. Thus why the Grille 15 appeared there, before it even was done on super test here etc.

 

So they basically sell everything they get their hands on... everything. 

 

Also it's worth noting that the gaming environment in China is vastly different from here. In China the milking & p2w is much more intense and is actually the common practice. The wot in China is run by Kongzhong, but the biggest player in gaming industry is Tencent and they took p2w to an extreme level. My childhood memory with my friends and classmates are all about their addiction to Tencent games and it's just a money sink (considering how much money we got from our parents, and our parent's salary level).

 

I remember a career event given by Tencent in our university campus (P.S. I am in a UK univ) and this is roughly what they said: "Look we are very kind to players because in our games people can actually pay to be good, thus spare you with lots of efforts!"


Edited by Zhongze_Li, 21 June 2017 - 01:33 PM.


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Type 59 G!!!

Nothing different from a Type 59 except its color. 

DOUBLE XP EVERY SINGLE GAME. 

Arty magnet, YOLO priority, etc. Won't be weird that u have a higher DPG on Type 59 than Type 59 G.

 

Price: 1218 CNY / 160 EUR.



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View PostZhongze_Li, on 21 June 2017 - 01:29 PM, said:

 

Also it's worth noting that the gaming environment in China is vastly different from here. In China the milking & p2w is much more intense and is actually the common practice. The wot in China is run by Kongzhong, but the biggest player in gaming industry is Tencent and they took p2w to an extreme level. My childhood memory with my friends and classmates are all about their addiction to Tencent games and it's just a money sink (considering how much money we got from our parents, and our parent's salary level)

 

Tecent game slogan: f off if u don't have money 10/10

____skorpion_EU_EU_EU_EU #18 Posted 21 June 2017 - 01:37 PM

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And at last --

Alpine Tiger (AKA WZ-111T in Chinese client)

 

DOUBLE XP EVERY SINGLE GAME.

Gold penetration is 300 instead of 250. That's true for every 122mm D25TA series Chinese gun, including gun for:

112, T-34-3, WZ-111, IS-2(Tier VII) and 110.

That's why I say some tanks are ruined by this 50 extra pen.

Liberté's front is almost immune to 250mm pen but it can't even bounce a single 300pen shell.

Same to KV-5's turret, Tiger II's upper plate and T28 Prototype.

 

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Price: 318 CNY / 40 EUR.



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There are also T71 CMCD, Kirovets-1, M48/T54E2 (aka M48A2), T-22, T95/Chieftain (another tier X British heavy) for sale.

U can buy crews with perks as well. 

There's no campaign, the only way to get 121B / T95E6 / Vk.7201K / M60 / Object.907 is by buying them using real money.

Object.260 / T-55A are also available in the online premium shop.

......

 

 

I'll keep playing Chinese server for another 3 months. Feel free to ask me more. :)



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I'm honestly not surprised. Basically all Chinese MMO's are pay-to-win. In fact, WoT China may even be slightly cheaper on average to keep playing than home-grown Chinese MMO's. People just throw money into games almost as fast as they can earn them... 

 

And the saddest part is, the players don't mind. In their view, if you spend money, you deserve an advantage and as such many are very willing to open their wallets whenever anything new and/or powerful is for sale. 

 

Pray it never comes to other servers. Its a straight up scam, and would likely caused an uproar if this level of p2w appeared outside of China. At least we won't be flooded by a wave of Gold Type 59's :P







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