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TrelomamiasThess #1 Posted 22 June 2017 - 07:43 PM

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So it's been around a month that my stats are different in stats site and in-game.

Wot-life, wotlabs : 1791

In-game : 1764

 

Anyone else has the same issue?



Homer_J #2 Posted 22 June 2017 - 07:53 PM

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It's because different sites use different expected damage values.  

Dr_ownape #3 Posted 22 June 2017 - 09:06 PM

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yeah about 2 months ago expected changed on Worlaby and wotlife (and probably others). for some reason XVM didn't update their values. I'm happy they areally not updating .

 

 

shhhhh think of it as XVM camo



anonym_YNch2j0j5oJ9 #4 Posted 22 June 2017 - 09:10 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 22 June 2017 - 07:53 PM, said:

It's because different sites use different expected damage values.  

 

Yeah, no.

It is because the creators of wn8 updated wn8, from version 29 to version 30, wotlabs and wot-life uses the correct wn8 values of version 30, but.. the people who update xvm for some reason doesn't think that version 30 is good, and they are still stuck on version 29. Dunno if they will ever change to version 30 though.. they should cuz new tanks wont get any wn8s cuz of version 29



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View PostTerblanche77, on 22 June 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

 

Yeah, no.

It is because the creators of wn8 updated wn8, from version 29 to version 30, wotlabs and wot-life uses the correct wn8 values of version 30, but.. the people who update xvm for some reason doesn't think that version 30 is good, and they are still stuck on version 29. Dunno if they will ever change to version 30 though.. they should cuz new tanks wont get any wn8s cuz of version 29

 

So what you meant was: Yeah, yes.

TrelomamiasThess #6 Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:39 PM

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I'm just pissed because at 1800 wn8 (QB's modpack) I'd reach blue status , but now it will take a bit more time :/

Homer_J #7 Posted 22 June 2017 - 11:18 PM

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View PostTrelomamiasThess, on 22 June 2017 - 10:39 PM, said:

I'm just pissed because at 1800 wn8 (QB's modpack) I'd reach blue status , but now it will take a bit more time :/

 

Just change the config so 1700 is blue.  Problem solved.



GekkoGordon #8 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:01 AM

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View PostHomer_J, on 22 June 2017 - 11:18 PM, said:

 

Just change the config so 1700 is blue.  Problem solved.

 

change purple to 1000 :trollface:

JocMeister #9 Posted 23 June 2017 - 04:50 AM

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View PostTerblanche77, on 22 June 2017 - 09:10 PM, said:

 

Yeah, no.

It is because the creators of wn8 updated wn8, from version 29 to version 30, wotlabs and wot-life uses the correct wn8 values of version 30, but.. the people who update xvm for some reason doesn't think that version 30 is good, and they are still stuck on version 29. Dunno if they will ever change to version 30 though.. they should cuz new tanks wont get any wn8s cuz of version 29

 

To be fair to the xvm guys .30 update made wn8 a completely useless stat. Even the wn8 creators acknowledge that. They wanted to drop wn8 completely but released .30 to keep all the stat sites running. 

 

From what I hear the XVM guys are working on their own version of wn8. There are also someone at Wotlabs working on something called WNR. 

 

IMO the best solution would be for WG to just block it all together. 



Dropman12 #10 Posted 23 June 2017 - 06:39 AM

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Why its useless?

Enforcer1975 #11 Posted 23 June 2017 - 06:58 AM

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View PostTrelomamiasThess, on 22 June 2017 - 10:39 PM, said:

I'm just pissed because at 1800 wn8 (QB's modpack) I'd reach blue status , but now it will take a bit more time :/

Blue = priority target. No need to rush. 



Jigabachi #12 Posted 23 June 2017 - 08:49 AM

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View PostTrelomamiasThess, on 22 June 2017 - 10:39 PM, said:

I'm just pissed because at 1800 wn8 (QB's modpack) I'd reach blue status , but now it will take a bit more time :/

If only I had a tiny violin... so sad.

 



gpalsson #13 Posted 23 June 2017 - 09:08 AM

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Virtual internet tank points veri important yes.

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View PostDropman12, on 23 June 2017 - 06:39 AM, said:

Why its useless?

 

Because they set fixed values per tank type and tier instead of individual values per tank. So you get the same wn8 for doing 2k damage in Caernarvon as you would for doing it in a Defender. Previously the Defender had a much, much higher expected value compared to the Cearn. Now its the same.

 

So wn8 is no longer a reflection of your overall skill. It simply measures how much you played in broken OP tanks like the Maus and Defender. 

 



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View PostJocMeister, on 25 June 2017 - 06:30 AM, said:

So wn8 is no longer a reflection of your overall skill. 

It never was. Stuffing all the playerstats into a single number is a very bad idea to begin with, but if you then STILL have to compare that number with the playerstats in order to check how good the player really is, makes it pretty much useless.

I never understood why anyone could take those numbers any serious when the playerstats tell you so much more...


Edited by Jigabachi, 25 June 2017 - 09:30 AM.





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