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Tier X French Medium BC-25t supertest changes

9.20 BC-25t High Skillcap Tanks Tier 10 Tier X BC-25t nerf BC-25t destroyed Unbalancing the game more

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Striker47 #1 Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:23 PM

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The BC-25t is perfectly fine as it is at the moment.

Just update it to HD and dont change any statistics.

 

This changes are nerfs and destroy one of the tanks with the highest skillcap in the game. If you dont understand the game mecanics and cant read the map your useless in that tank.

So there is no point in saying "this tank is overpowered"

If you get cliped from the BC-25t you made a mistake in your plays, its one of the best balanced tanks in the game. If you dont like it play a british 183mm gun and one shot it.

 

There is no logic argument to change(in my opinion this changes are nerfs and will DESTROY the tank) that tank at all, just give it HD textures.

https://thedailyboun...n-25-t-changes/

 



Suurpolskija #2 Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:26 PM

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Why new topic? There's plenty of this *edited* whine already.

Edited by Jbnn, 23 June 2017 - 03:04 PM.
This post has been edited by the moderation team due to inappropriate remarks.


Balc0ra #3 Posted 22 June 2017 - 10:56 PM

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 testing the possibility of role change to this vehicle.

 

Keyword... testing. As in not final. Or successful. So let's not panic yet.

THE_JACK_OF_HEARTS #4 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:51 AM

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I hope it gets nerfed tbh  and its looking like it will...

_EXODUZ_ #5 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:53 AM

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Can you not create multiple threads?

Tidal_Force #6 Posted 23 June 2017 - 12:02 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 June 2017 - 09:56 PM, said:

 

Keyword... testing. As in not final. Or successful. So let's not panic yet.

 

They "tested" Maus too. And somehow Maus which didn't need any buffs in the first place passed tests with even more buffs than initially planned. So yes, there's a reason to panic.

Edited by Tidal_Force, 23 June 2017 - 12:03 PM.


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View PostBalc0ra, on 22 June 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

Keyword... testing. As in not final. Or successful. So let's not panic yet.

Let's hope they remove the 6th shell :P



Hiisi #8 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:25 PM

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If you get cliped from the BC-25t you made a mistake in your plays... well sometimes noobs just drive and clip you, you can but shot or two into it, because 1 shot usually is eaten by its magic armor. It doesnt take lots of skill do that...

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This changes are nerfs and destroy one of the tanks with the highest skillcap in the game. No bat is overperforming a bit currently, does too many things really good. Leopard 1 is a lot harder to play because it's just a bad tank.

Cobra6 #10 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:29 PM

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This nerf is idiotic, if anything the Bc25 should get a buff in the aimtime and dispersion stats.

 

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Pansenmann #11 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:33 PM

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Well, I got told they wouldnt nerf the ELC...

 

now look that it has become.



TankkiPoju #12 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:02 PM

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View PostPansenmann, on 23 June 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

Well, I got told they wouldnt nerf the ELC...

 

now look that it has become.

 

It's not the same thing as ELC got also a lot better MM like all other scouts. All Tier 4-7 scouts are now better than ever, because of this.

 

The old ELC was a fun vehicle, but it was never actually that good.



HundeWurst #13 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:07 PM

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I dont know why everyone is whining? Is that always the case when something changes?

 

It might even be that the "new" BC is better than the old one. Dependent on how the gunhandling is after these changes it seems kinda at least on the same level, if not slightly better.

To be honest I agree with taking away its insane clip potential. That was always what I critizised about the tank, however I hardly ever voiced this concern.

 

View PostCobra6, on 23 June 2017 - 01:29 PM, said:

This nerf is idiotic, if anything the Bc25 should get a buff in the aimtime and dispersion stats.

 

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Most certainly it should not. That would make it OP. At the very least keep it like it is.

However be open minded from time to time about what they do. OK we all know the incredible incompetence from WG but I dont even think that this is a nerf. It might be better after all. Well RIP gold shells I guess thats the only real nerf I can see.


Edited by WunderWurst, 23 June 2017 - 02:09 PM.


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View PostHiisi, on 23 June 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

If you get cliped from the BC-25t you made a mistake in your plays... well sometimes noobs just drive and clip you, you can but shot or two into it, because 1 shot usually is eaten by its magic armor. It doesnt take lots of skill do that...

Yes ofc.....autoclicker waits in a bush and kills me while remaining unspotted...my fault...autoclicker and me run into eachother....my fault....autoclicker faps in a corner and clicks...the other guys fault. Good thing so many don't know how to play them but the fact that a tomato can click you for almost your entire hp pool then die even when you didn't make a mistake shows how broken the majority of of them are. 



PelleThePlutt #15 Posted 24 June 2017 - 07:35 PM

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What WG is planing to do with BC 25t is just dumb. Giving a tier 10 tank the same clip-dmg as a tier 8 tank. Plz WG, leave the BC's gun alone. Dont destroy a tank like you have done with other tanks before. Lowering the pen, dmg and prem-pen is not ok. The BC is ok as it is seens its made of paper. 

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View PostWunderWurst, on 23 June 2017 - 02:07 PM, said:

I dont know why everyone is whining? Is that always the case when something changes?

 

It might even be that the "new" BC is better than the old one. Dependent on how the gunhandling is after these changes it seems kinda at least on the same level, if not slightly better.

To be honest I agree with taking away its insane clip potential. That was always what I critizised about the tank, however I hardly ever voiced this concern.

 

 

Most certainly it should not. That would make it OP. At the very least keep it like it is.

However be open minded from time to time about what they do. OK we all know the incredible incompetence from WG but I dont even think that this is a nerf. It might be better after all. Well RIP gold shells I guess thats the only real nerf I can see.

1950 to 1800,no huge clip potential anymore...

The fact is that WG touches tanks that are fine and leaves alone tanks that are completely OP or UP. This shows WG is completely disconected from their game and they dont know the actuall issues.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 24 June 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

1950 to 1800,no huge clip potential anymore...

The fact is that WG touches tanks that are fine and leaves alone tanks that are completely OP or UP. This shows WG is completely disconected from their game and they dont know the actuall issues.

 

A check in their battle count is more or less one of the reasons why.

AliceUnchained #18 Posted 26 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 24 June 2017 - 07:40 PM, said:

The fact is that WG touches tanks that are fine and leaves alone tanks that are completely OP or UP. This shows WG is completely disconected from their game and they dont know the actuall issues.

 

That indeed is the curious bitt. Even when it's done as part of HD conversions (2 birds with one stone from their perspective I imagine), why does it seem Wargaming is unable, or unwilling, to identify those vehicles in much more desperate need of rework (HD conversion still in the pipeline or not).

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View PostWunderWurst, on 23 June 2017 - 01:07 PM, said:

I dont know why everyone is whining? Is that always the case when something changes?

 

It might even be that the "new" BC is better than the old one. Dependent on how the gunhandling is after these changes it seems kinda at least on the same level, if not slightly better.

To be honest I agree with taking away its insane clip potential. That was always what I critizised about the tank, however I hardly ever voiced this concern.

 

 

Most certainly it should not. That would make it OP. At the very least keep it like it is.

However be open minded from time to time about what they do. OK we all know the incredible incompetence from WG but I dont even think that this is a nerf. It might be better after all. Well RIP gold shells I guess thats the only real nerf I can see.

 

I'd be open for trading less clip potential for more DPM and better gun handling, a la the changes the 1390 got which improved the tank massively IMO.

 

But what they have proposed doesn't seem to have really done that, clip potential is slightly lower but takes longer, gun handling looks about the same and the reload is still over 30s, so it's pretty much a flat out nerf. 

 

You are losing alpha, penetration, clip size, premium pen AND clip speed for very tiny increases in aim time, reload and accuracy. 

 

 



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View Posttajj7, on 26 June 2017 - 02:17 PM, said:

 

I'd be open for trading less clip potential for more DPM and better gun handling, a la the changes the 1390 got which improved the tank massively IMO.

 

But what they have proposed doesn't seem to have really done that, clip potential is slightly lower but takes longer, gun handling looks about the same and the reload is still over 30s, so it's pretty much a flat out nerf. 

 

You are losing alpha, penetration, clip size, premium pen AND clip speed for very tiny increases in aim time, reload and accuracy. 

 

 

Not to mention the fact that a BC with less alpha, better gun handling and more dpm is already in the game, its called the TVP.






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