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LaManche #1 Posted 23 June 2017 - 10:54 AM

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So today WG released the Tiger 131 premium tank to celebrate the Bovington Tankfest 2017. That is fair enough as some of its sale revenue will probably go to cover the cost of Tankfest as WG is one of the sponsors, right? Anyway, the thing is that WG is also planning to release that Otto Carius tank, the Tiger 217 which is exactly the same as the Tiger 131 (stats wise) - which is pretty much the same as HT No. VI.

 

Here are the stats:

http://tanks.gg/v091...er-217~ht-no-vi

 

These tanks are balanced so it's no big deal for the game that there will be more of the same tank, but do you guys think that the Otto Carius tank will also have the BIA crew? That it will have the historical crew? I'm trying to find a difference between the two tanks and I cannot find it, apart from the Tiger 217 being covered in zimmerit. I don't want to believe WG will sell us two (or three, depending how you look at it) of the same tanks. :P

 

 

 

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RockyRoller #2 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:17 AM

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The Tiger 131 will be good for crew training, and start with a bonus skill whilst the Type VI isn't of much use at all and comes with an normal crew. Other than that its cosmetic until credit bonus is factored in.

 

It was about time a German Tiger was allowed to skirmish mode, a Japanese Tiger version was just so, so, odd.

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Comrade_Renamon #3 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:28 AM

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Keep in mind that unlike the 131 and the HT no VI the 217 model shows that it is using the top Tiger I turret with the smaller cupola (in the hitbox it is missing that tiny 25mm 'tip' that the Tiger I has even). Not a huge advantage but something to keep in mind.

trefferlage #4 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:31 AM

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Its called money grab.  Simpel reskin ( like AW does ) and then selling it, hoping that many will not understand :-). Nobody needs a baby tiger with no pen ( or maybe its thought to spam gold all time ? :-) )

THE_JACK_OF_HEARTS #5 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:43 AM

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not really a money grab, its cheap, trains crews, and is historical, if you ,cannot afford a few grevna and some kopiecs, don't moan, and also if some of the money goes to the tank museum, up the road from me, then all is good ...

wordy00 #6 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:18 PM

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When people say "money grab".... I don't understand. It's simply another variant of the Tiger with a different historical context. You don't have to buy it. The tank is completely balanced and has poor armour so easy to penetrate with Tier 5's.

cwietka #7 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:29 PM

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Tank is this same than HT No 6.... Just done to train german heavy tanks crew....

 

 

Great idea... And like wordy00 say... You need to decide... Buy... or Not ??!?!?!??!??

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I won't bother getting one but I prefer to see "historically accurate" clones of existing tanks in the game then those ugly fantasy anime tanks.

Alex_Connor #9 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:55 PM

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 Useful german heavy crew trainer, not everyone wants to buy a t7 or t8 premium and the Pz B2 is both rarely available and has a weird crew layout that doesn't fit any other german heavies.

 

Plus, fantastic looking model and the first german BIA crew. I don't have any problems with the existence of both HT No.VI and Tiger 131, the Jap Tiger is also a useful trainer that I've enjoyed playing, makes a nice break from the regular line.

 

Tiger 131 and Tiger 217 are a little harder to justify, certainly doesn't add anything to gameplay. Then again, you don't have to buy them both and WG might do a marathon for the 217. If nothing else, it's at least a better effort than the Black edition tanks, and I certainly don't mind having a few different Tigers running around the battlefield.



LaManche #10 Posted 23 June 2017 - 03:04 PM

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View PostComrade_Renamon, on 23 June 2017 - 10:28 AM, said:

Keep in mind that unlike the 131 and the HT no VI the 217 model shows that it is using the top Tiger I turret with the smaller cupola (in the hitbox it is missing that tiny 25mm 'tip' that the Tiger I has even). Not a huge advantage but something to keep in mind.

 

A very good point, well spotted. I shall wait for the 217 then, there's no point of owning two tier VI German HT premiums and 217 seems a tad better because of that.

 

Hope that 217 gets a BIA crew as well, can't see why it would not.

 

Tiger 131:

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Tiger 217:

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tajj7 #11 Posted 23 June 2017 - 03:49 PM

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IIRC Tiger 217 was being touted as having some sort of special purpose in a Q&A, which suggests mission reward.

 

Who knows, it might be one of the new PM reward tanks as it's rumoured the new PMs are due soon. 



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View PostMOSSAD_WATCHING, on 23 June 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

not really a money grab, its cheap, trains crews, and is historical, if you ,cannot afford a few grevna and some kopiecs, don't moan, and also if some of the money goes to the tank museum, up the road from me, then all is good ...

 

Cheap ? Would not say its cheap.. may be for those who regulary pump tons of bucks into the game. Crew training ? lol.. wait after the first t8 games, with no pen, forced to spam gold all time and shreddered after seconds... tank museum ? sorry, are they spending something to me ? so no.. still money grab.. a simpel repaint.. and the 100% crew i get by playing with any tank...

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View PostAlex_Connor, on 23 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

 Useful german heavy crew trainer, not everyone wants to buy a t7 or t8 premium and the Pz B2 is both rarely available and has a weird crew layout that doesn't fit any other german heavies.

 

Plus, fantastic looking model and the first german BIA crew. I don't have any problems with the existence of both HT No.VI and Tiger 131, the Jap Tiger is also a useful trainer that I've enjoyed playing, makes a nice break from the regular line.

 

Tiger 131 and Tiger 217 are a little harder to justify, certainly doesn't add anything to gameplay. Then again, you don't have to buy them both and WG might do a marathon for the 217. If nothing else, it's at least a better effort than the Black edition tanks, and I certainly don't mind having a few different Tigers running around the battlefield.

 

Ok, may be some people like to pay only for a special look. but it should be premium when it is written premium on top of it.. and the first replays i have seen have a simple reaction . NO THANKS

GekkoGordon #14 Posted 23 June 2017 - 05:13 PM

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So it's a money grab if you can't make 100.000 credits every game like with Defender/Skorpion? Some premiums are played for their historical value or just for fun. 

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View Posttrefferlage, on 23 June 2017 - 05:07 PM, said:

 

Cheap ? Would not say its cheap.. may be for those who regulary pump tons of bucks into the game. Crew training ? lol.. wait after the first t8 games, with no pen, forced to spam gold all time and shreddered after seconds... tank museum ? sorry, are they spending something to me ? so no.. still money grab.. a simpel repaint.. and the 100% crew i get by playing with any tank...

 

In a Tier 8 game it only sees 3 tier 8's and that they could all be lights, or could even all be arty.... and that tier 6's have been seeing tier 8's the entire life of the game and it has hardly been the auto-death you seem to insist it is.

 

Seriously, it is like a huge number of players only just started playing and are complaining that the way the game has been for years does not work... 



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View Posttajj7, on 23 June 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

IIRC Tiger 217 was being touted as having some sort of special purpose in a Q&A, which suggests mission reward.

 

Who knows, it might be one of the new PM reward tanks as it's rumoured the new PMs are due soon. 

 

Same, I've heard some rumors that WG has some special purpose for an upcoming premium tank but I thought it would've been the 131 as a mission reward. To be honest I doubt that WG would make an Otto Carius tank as a reward tank, it's an Ace Tank after all. The Ace Tanks were all supposed to be purchasable prems if I remember correctly the Q&A's...

 

Besides the PM tanks are at tiers V, VII, IV and X but there's always a possibility that they changed that. We're just going to have to wait and see what WG will do.



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This morning i bought that tiger 131, first battle in chat every second mess was "tiger 131 shi*", "uslles tank", but wait, someone play this game from fun not for stupid wn8 and same craps. And tiger 131 is one point of ww2 history and i bought him from that reason. What we expected, its grateful tier VI tank with good gun when he is in normal MM.

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View PostLaManche, on 23 June 2017 - 10:54 AM, said:

I don't want to believe WG will sell us two (or three, depending how you look at it) of the same tanks. :P

 

Give reality a chance. It's hilarious once you get to know it.



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View PostDesert_Fox43, on 23 June 2017 - 06:07 PM, said:

This morning i bought that tiger 131, first battle in chat every second mess was "tiger 131 shi*", "uslles tank", but wait, someone play this game from fun not for stupid wn8 and same craps. And tiger 131 is one point of ww2 history and i bought him from that reason. What we expected, its grateful tier VI tank with good gun when he is in normal MM.

 

Ignore them. They no doubt feel much the same way about the HT 6 and they are just as wrong there.

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View Postlafeel, on 23 June 2017 - 06:24 PM, said:

 

Ignore them. They no doubt feel much the same way about the HT 6 and they are just as wrong there.

Eh... I see the HT6 as an exp piñata tbh, especially when playing my Japanese tanks.

 

As for the tanks themselves; I believe that the 131 and 217 are statistically identical, with the exception of the cupola, and the HT6 being slighty worse than 131 due to weaker radio.






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