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Skinkyy #1 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:40 PM

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Why would you nerf one of the most balanced and skill needed tanks ? Because it is medium and sir murazor plays only heavy tanks such as Maus (yeah now wonder why is maus the most op HT). 

 

*edit* His idea is that heavy tanks should be penned frontally, meds shouldnt flank and corridors everywhere. He has managed to destroy whole french tier (god bless that 50 B is untouched).

 

Foch - crap

AMX 30 B - yeah it needed useless armor buff, right ? Now it is useless crapas well 

B-C 25t - i wont even bother to talk about it 

 

And by the way, bat chat has 50,4% wr while maus is sitting on 56% so guess which tank needs nerf


Edited by Jahrakajin, 23 June 2017 - 03:06 PM.
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GekkoGordon #2 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:55 PM

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Foch got better than what it is now

30B never bounced anything on the hull anyways, the turret is stronger now

BC25 is a *edit* tank and it should be nerfed, all autoloaders are *edit*, especially french ones.


Edited by Jahrakajin, 23 June 2017 - 02:23 PM.
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Skinkyy #3 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:55 PM

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30B wasnt supposed to bounce anything .. Now it became shitty underperforming support med

_EXODUZ_ #4 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:56 PM

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Are you the one that made a similar thread on Reddit yesterday?

 

Any how, why don't you send your resume to WG? https://new.wargamin...eers/vacancies/

 

 



Skinkyy #5 Posted 23 June 2017 - 01:59 PM

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 23 June 2017 - 12:56 PM, said:

Are you the one that made a similar thread on Reddit yesterday?

 

Any how, why don't you send your resume to WG? https://new.wargamin...eers/vacancies/

 

 

 

What thread

Ober__ #6 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:08 PM

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View PostGekkoGordon, on 23 June 2017 - 02:55 PM, said:

Foch got better than what it is now

30B never bounced anything on the hull anyways, the turret is stronger now

BC25 is a *edit* tank and it should be nerfed, all autoloaders are *edit*, especially french ones.

Bot detected. How BC is op, can you explain? It's good in good hands, pubies like you see ow skilled player doing over 3k dmg and call it op. Here is the stats of BC:

 

WN8 Efficiency 1,780.5

Winrate 50.1%

Experience 451.3

 

So ofc it's so op with that amazing winrate and wn8.

 



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View PostGekkoGordon, on 23 June 2017 - 01:55 PM, said:

Foch got better than what it is now

30B never bounced anything on the hull anyways, the turret is stronger now

BC25 is a *edit*r tank and it should be nerfed, all autoloaders are *edit*, especially french ones.

 



Nothing in an arcade game is "cancer". Cancer is a disease that causes unimaginable pain, and destroys lives.
 

Folau #8 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:29 PM

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View PostIncandescentGerbil, on 23 June 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

Nothing in an arcade game is "cancer". Cancer is a disease that causes unimaginable pain, and destroys lives.

 

An object/person/phenomena can be decribed as "cancerous" without meaning the illness - it means something that is a negative and typically spreading influence. Not defending misuse of the word to cause hurt, but it is not strictly implied.


Edited by Folau, 23 June 2017 - 02:30 PM.


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Fake armor on AMX 30b, tank that was build. Murazor historian. They have this tank in museum and still WG add fake armor from [edited]. 300 mm effective armor on turret, yea. Why Leo 1 wont get armor buff? 

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View PostFolau, on 23 June 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

 

An object/person/phenomena can be decribed as "cancerous" without meaning the illness - it means something that is a negative and typically spreading influence. Not defending misuse of the word to cause hurt, but it is not strictly implied.

It's use in relation to a game is crass, at best. The kids only ever employ it in noun form, too. "Cancer" this; "cancer" that. What other association could there be, reasonably?  



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View Postares354, on 23 June 2017 - 02:38 PM, said:

Fake armor on AMX 30b, tank that was build. Murazor historian. They have this tank in museum and still WG add fake armor from [edited]. 300 mm effective armor on turret, yea. Why Leo 1 wont get armor buff? 

 

sometimes i wish all tanks would be 100% fantasy  ... then nobody could say this "historic" nonsense and WG could change whatever they think is correct for balancing the game

fighting_falcon93 #12 Posted 23 June 2017 - 03:00 PM

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View PostOberfuhr, on 23 June 2017 - 02:08 PM, said:

How BC is op, can you explain?

 

Clip potential of 1950 damage. Not OP at all... :rolleyes:

 

Hide somewhere safely while you reload, find a victim and erase him from the game, then repeat. Use a bush to not get spotted and you might not even get damaged in return. End game? No problem tavarush. Just rush someone and trade 2-3 shots for the entire mag. Completely balanced...



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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 June 2017 - 04:00 PM, said:

 

Clip potential of 1950 damage. Not OP at all... :rolleyes:

 

Hide somewhere safely while you reload, find a victim and erase him from the game, then repeat. Use a bush to not get spotted and you might not even get damaged in return. End game? No problem tavarush. Just rush someone and trade 2-3 shots for the entire mag. Completely balanced...

 

check what gun handling is, than complain about OP- aiming time, accurate and soft stats. But is op, right. Another pubie detected.

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View PostSkinkyy, on 23 June 2017 - 01:40 PM, said:

Why would you nerf one of the most balanced and skill needed tanks ? Because it is medium and sir murazor plays only heavy tanks such as Maus (yeah now wonder why is maus the most op HT). 

 

*edit*  His idea is that heavy tanks should be penned frontally, meds shouldnt flank and corridors everywhere. He has managed to destroy whole french tier (god bless that 50 B is untouched).

 

Foch - crap

AMX 30 B - yeah it needed useless armor buff, right ? Now it is useless crapas well 

B-C 25t - i wont even bother to talk about it 

 

And by the way, bat chat has 50,4% wr while maus is sitting on 56% so guess which tank needs nerf

 

We realy should not talk about nefring B-C 25t clipping other tier X mediums.. now it will be ballanced 

And please stop crying like little kid. 1950 dmg clippng was way overpowered.

 

View PostOberfuhr, on 23 June 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

 

check what gun handling is, than complain about OP- aiming time, accurate and soft stats. But is op, right. Another pubie detected.

 

the gun handling on new B-C t will be surely better, like its better on AMX 1390
 

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View PostOberfuhr, on 23 June 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

check what gun handling is, than complain about OP- aiming time, accurate and soft stats.

 

Gun handling? Last time I sat next to a Batchat in my Leopard 1 while we sniped from the hill on Prokhorovka, the Batchat connected 2 shots while my Leopard 1 missed 2. I think that you're overestimating the small differences in stats that you're comparing. And who needs excellent gun handling when you rush someone and pump his backside full with 5x390 shells? :mellow:

 

View PostOberfuhr, on 23 June 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

Another pubie detected.

 

Yes, ofc, everyone disagreeing with you is a pubie, n00b, bot... :rolleyes:

 

2194 average damage in your E50M. Yes, you really are in a position of calling other players that...


Edited by fighting_falcon93, 23 June 2017 - 03:09 PM.


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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 June 2017 - 02:00 PM, said:

 

Clip potential of 1950 damage. Not OP at all... :rolleyes:

 

Hide somewhere safely while you reload, find a victim and erase him from the game, then repeat. Use a bush to not get spotted and you might not even get damaged in return. End game? No problem tavarush. Just rush someone and trade 2-3 shots for the entire mag. Completely balanced...

 

Everything is OP if you put in a little perfect scenario bubble. Leopard 1 at 300m from everything, full camo, double bushed someone spotting for it getting to fire everytime it reloads. Leopard 1 is OP. 

 

Back in the real world though, with you know the game actually working how it works the Bat Chat is very far from OP and 99% of players do poorly in it. 

 

But just to prove it -

 

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Maus actual OP tank with WR curve massively over the reference line.

 

Bat Chat, a formerly balanced tank, now actually underperforming the current meta. (which is no surprise with corridor maps and overbuffed invincible super heavies) 

 

Kind of shows that you don't have one thus have no idea what you are talking about. 

 

I'm going to use the Maus rule here, basically anyone who doesn't think the Maus is OP = moron.

 

Anyone who thinks the Bat Chat is OP = moron. 

 


Edited by tajj7, 23 June 2017 - 03:11 PM.


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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 June 2017 - 03:07 PM, said:

 

Gun handling? Last time I sat next to a Batchat in my Leopard 1 while we sniped from the hill on Prokhorovka, the Batchat connected 2 shots while my Leopard 1 missed 2. I think that you're overestimating the small differences in stats that you're comparing. And who needs excellent gun handling when you rush someone and pump his backside full with 5x390 shells? :mellow:

 

 

Yes, ofc, everyone disagreeing with you is a pubie, n00b, bot... :rolleyes:

 

2194 average damage in your E50M. Yes, you really are in a position of calling other players that...

 

You obviously never played a BC before ;)
 

View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 June 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

 

Clip potential of 1950 damage. Not OP at all... :rolleyes:

 

Hide somewhere safely while you reload, find a victim and erase him from the game, then repeat. Use a bush to not get spotted and you might not even get damaged in return. End game? No problem tavarush. Just rush someone and trade 2-3 shots for the entire mag. Completely balanced...

 

THat works in  theory, in practice , this is not how it works and needs a lot of skill to get decent performance out of it.
 

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 June 2017 - 04:07 PM, said:

 

Gun handling? Last time I sat next to a Batchat in my Leopard 1 while we sniped from the hill on Prokhorovka, the Batchat connected 2 shots while my Leopard 1 missed 2. I think that you're overestimating the small differences in stats that you're comparing. And who needs excellent gun handling when you rush someone and pump his backside full with 5x390 shells? :mellow:

 

 

Yes, ofc, everyone disagreeing with you is a pubie, n00b, bot... :rolleyes:

 

2194 average damage in your E50M. Yes, you really are in a position of calling other players that...

 

so what you wanna say? It was one of my first X tier tank when I was orange player. But somehow I got 2nd gun mark and sure only with that poor avg dmg. If you so stupid, that dont see what garbage gun handling has BC and still call it OP, I have no words.

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View Posttajj7, on 23 June 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

Kind of shows that you don't have one thus have no idea what you are talking about. 

 

View Postbrumbarr, on 23 June 2017 - 03:10 PM, said:

You obviously never played a BC before ;)

 

I do indeed not have a Batchat yet. Currently at tier 9 on that branch.

 

I can agree that the Batchat is not stright out OP in all situations, but when it can use its autoloader to its full potential, it becomes quite OP. I'd rather say it's a general problem with autoloaders and not with the Batchat itself. Reminds me of a game (I don't remember which tank I was driving), but I had full HP and decided to push. Everything went well untill I got caught by a Batchat... Tank destroyed. That's what I mean with OP. In that situation, an ordinary tank would need atleast a minute or so to farm all my hp, while a batchat took it in 10.92 seconds :)


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View PostOberfuhr, on 23 June 2017 - 03:11 PM, said:

so what you wanna say? It was one of my first X tier tank when I was orange player. But somehow I got 2nd gun mark and sure only with that poor avg dmg. If you so stupid, that dont see what garbage gun handling has BC and still call it OP, I have no words.

 

Does that apply to your Leopard 1 aswell? Even I (you know, the pubie), does more damage in that one than you :)

 

I don't like throwing stats around. But I find it annoying when people like you downgrade players opinions just because they have worse WN8 number than you. Especially when they're not even actual bad players, but just that their number is lower than yours.






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