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Poll: Should WG add "armor" to underperforming tanks like Tiger 2 for exmple? (51 members have cast votes)

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Do you like idea to have fake armor on existing tanks ?

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    Percentage of vote: 68.63%

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ares354 #1 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:46 PM

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So WG add new "armor" on tank that exist, well in that case, what about tank like Tiger 2? Ferdi, Caernarvon, and so on. Armor on those tanks don't work at all, should WG buff it, over historical value anyway like they did with AMX 30b? I say yea

Edited by ares354, 25 June 2017 - 09:10 AM.


_EXODUZ_ #2 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:49 PM

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Oh look a new thread, like you couldn't get any public opinion from the previous ones.

 



Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:50 PM

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 23 June 2017 - 02:49 PM, said:

Oh look a new thread, like you couldn't get any public opinion from the previous ones.

 

I wonder how long it takes for the next thread to be opened...



fighting_falcon93 #4 Posted 23 June 2017 - 02:53 PM

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Voted no. Instead of buffing the armor, they should move it down a tier instead. Tiger 1 should be on tier 6, and Königstiger should be on tier 7 if we look at it historically :)

 

Then again, what's the point in having armor at all with all the gold flying around? :)



vidde12321 #5 Posted 23 June 2017 - 10:42 PM

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The AMX receives a buff to differentiate it from the leopard and because Wargaming almost sort of cares about tier 10 balance when it comes to mediums. Not saying I agree with it, but I don't really prioritize historical accuracy when it comes to armor. I find game balance and aesthetics more important.

JuliusCheddar #6 Posted 23 June 2017 - 10:59 PM

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Leopard 1 - How to make most obsolete tier X med even more obsolete. Illustrated guide by WG balance department. 

GekkoGordon #7 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:08 PM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 June 2017 - 02:53 PM, said:

Voted no. Instead of buffing the armor, they should move it down a tier instead. Tiger 1 should be on tier 6, and Königstiger should be on tier 7 if we look at it historically :)

 

Then again, what's the point in having armor at all with all the gold flying around? :)

 

there's a tier 7 KT -> Tiger II (H) http://tanks.gg/tank/tiger-ii-h

Isharial #8 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:14 PM

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if its in the interest of game balance, well why not? the games not historical in that regard so its not really something I see as "bad"

pen, armour, tanks have hitpoints, damage per shell... none of it real, its all just made up

some of the armour values are taken from proper plans, but I cant see every single tank in game having that kind of armour status, most of them probably don't even match up to the blueprints anymore after subsequent buffs and nerfs over the years



fighting_falcon93 #9 Posted 23 June 2017 - 11:20 PM

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View PostGekkoGordon, on 23 June 2017 - 11:08 PM, said:

there's a tier 7 KT -> Tiger II (H) http://tanks.gg/tank/tiger-ii-h

 

Oh, nice, I didn't know that. But it's a premium tank :(



ares354 #10 Posted 24 June 2017 - 01:03 AM

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Yet WG don't add "new armor" to Tiger 2 or Ferdinand, and those tank are way too high in tier, and their armor dont work, same goes for Tiger 1. 

AMX 30 was tank similar in real life to Leo 1, so what WG is doing is wrong. Game is game, we have hp and so on, but what we dont need are anime tanks, or fake armor to "differentiate" because WG don't do this to every nation in game....and to some tank this is not ok. We do for all who need it, or to no one. 

Leopard 1 has worst soft stats on gun, same goes for top German LT. Whats the point to grind those tanks, with no armor, that gun take ages to aim > ? WG don't care about Leopard but do care about AMX 30b? No, they don't care about AMX. 

^^What they care is to kill next tank that work well with APCR and don't need a lot of premium ammo. After this rebalance, to be competetive, you will have to use way more premium ammo. 

 

King_of_Terrors #11 Posted 24 June 2017 - 04:20 AM

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WG one more piss off on fans...nothing more...i am huge fan of france tech tree... rebalance Amx 30b is such a shame... i remember the time when no one player like to play E 100..cuz crap248 pen...now is same with Type 5...i mean E 50...standard pen 270. Good gun depresion,best pen if all meds..and now this amx 30b from 260 till 248...nothing more than WG want to force people to shot gold... But i begin you WG admins...you lost many players who play long time...this is right reason why!now we have out new on line games like warthunder...like Crossout...people just leave world of tanks...only reason is decision from WG to rebalance tanks in total wrong way...last year we have on line 100k players now from 50k till 30k...pls WG dont make more crap... with amx 30b with new pen 248...thes days i play my last game with him...

King_of_Terrors #12 Posted 24 June 2017 - 04:28 AM

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And i am not alone...belive me if someone read this post...many people never again play Amx 30b and many of them never grind this line... next year if this game not crash...you have players only who play german and russian tech tree.. WG pls do not let that happen...WG pls i begin you do not force people to leave the game...

Yakito #13 Posted 25 June 2017 - 12:12 AM

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What? The tank gets a buff and you complain...
Damn it... People are so weird.

ares354 #14 Posted 25 June 2017 - 08:44 AM

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View PostYakito, on 25 June 2017 - 12:12 AM, said:

What? The tank gets a buff and you complain...
Damn it... People are so weird.

 

They make STB 1 v2, and says that it's to difference from Leopard, yet still, French did this tank similar to Leopard 1, coz they have good reason to do this. It's not buff, they buff armor ,yet still hull will be crap, copula will be as big as it is, and only 100 mm. 

They nerf good pen, good acc, and buff soft stas. They force you to use more premium ammo. 

You call this buff, so yes, for you this can be buff. But still, Tiger 2 who NEED armor on tier 8, get crap. Germans paper tanks still with worst soft stats on guns. This is balance for you? 

Edited by ares354, 25 June 2017 - 09:09 AM.


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View Postares354, on 23 June 2017 - 01:46 PM, said:

So WG add new "aromr" on tank that exist, well in that case, what about tank like Tiger 2? Ferdi, Caernarvon, and so on. Armor on those tanks don't work at all, should WG buff it, over historical value anyway like they did with AMX 30b? I say yea

 

I thought Aromr was the third son of Denethor.  So unpopular he was never mentioned.

Hellfoxe #16 Posted 25 June 2017 - 09:03 AM

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View Postfighting_falcon93, on 23 June 2017 - 02:53 PM, said:

Voted no. Instead of buffing the armor, they should move it down a tier instead. Tiger 1 should be on tier 6, and Königstiger should be on tier 7 if we look at it historically :)

 

Then again, what's the point in having armor at all with all the gold flying around? :)

 

Learn to live with it.

DorsVenabiIi #17 Posted 25 June 2017 - 09:26 AM

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I could not care less for historical accuracy. 

 

But I agree they're overbuffing those mediums. 


Edited by DorsVenabiIi, 25 June 2017 - 09:26 AM.


leggasiini #18 Posted 25 June 2017 - 09:48 AM

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Turret armor buff is unnecessary, they are already giving a meaty buff to gun handling and DPM.

 

Keep the turret armor the way it is now and keep the pen just as 257. Just implement DPM and gun handling buffs but the slight acc nerfs and the tank already would have a niche.

 

Now go in and buff Leo 1 as well.



Morgaroth_ #19 Posted 25 June 2017 - 09:57 AM

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It's a good thing amx 30b is getting some love.

I don't know why people complain about some fake armor stats when this game has so many "blueprint" tanks already.



FatigueGalaxy #20 Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

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View PostMorgaroth_, on 25 June 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

It's a good thing amx 30b is getting some love.

I don't know why people complain about some fake armor stats when this game has so many "blueprint" tanks already.

 

Maybe because balance went to crapwhen they started messing with armour on tanks, instead balancing them around armour that had/planned to have.




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