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qpranger #1 Posted 24 June 2017 - 12:55 AM

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Even the copy/paste premium Tigers at Tier 6 look iffy with just 100 mm because it is not angled. Make the regular tier 7 Tiger I 120mm up front at least, or better still 150mm. 

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fighting_falcon93 #2 Posted 24 June 2017 - 12:57 AM

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I'd rather see they moved it to tier 6 or even tier 5 than giving it unhistorical armor values. Obviusly that would require some tweaks in dpm and hp :)

qpranger #3 Posted 24 June 2017 - 01:07 AM

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AMX 30b is getting additional armour up front.

Surely Tiger I deserves it even more. 

#itisonlyfair



ares354 #4 Posted 24 June 2017 - 01:12 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 24 June 2017 - 01:07 AM, said:

AMX 30b is getting additional armour up front.

Surely Tiger I deserves it even more. 

#itisonlyfair

 

Some Germans tanks that killed a lot of Soviet tanks in WW 2 must have historical armor , and be crap, JUSTICE MUST be DONE Comrade. So they won't buff his armor, you need to play it like TD. 

qpranger #5 Posted 24 June 2017 - 01:14 AM

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View Postares354, on 24 June 2017 - 02:12 AM, said:

 

Some Germans tanks that killed a lot of Soviet tanks in WW 2 must have historical armor , and be crap, JUSTICE MUST be DONE Comrade. So they won't buff his armor, you need to play it like TD. 

 

Which I indeed do most of the time,

but then I get accused of camping.

So many players out there think that

Tiger I is some kind of an OP monster.

Sigh.



Balc0ra #6 Posted 24 June 2017 - 01:37 AM

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The low armor is the only reason why it has 250 HP more then the T29, and over 2 sec faster reload vs the Tiger P with the same gun. As that's one of the few good aspects about it. Buffing the armor and reducing the ROF will only make it as useless as the Tiger P tbh.

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I'm sorry I can't like this.

Hiisi #8 Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:21 AM

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Jesus no. It just got mantlet buff. Tiger 1 is well balanced tank. Frontal hull armor is not it's strenght. Gun, dpm and hp pool is.

 

buy tiger p if you want more hull armor...


Edited by Hiisi, 24 June 2017 - 08:23 AM.


JuliusCheddar #9 Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:26 AM

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No, no and no. 

 



mortalsatsuma #10 Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:54 AM

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literally nothing wrong with it, accidentally got my 2nd MOE on my Tiger I yesterday. it's all about dat DPM. You want armour, go play a T29 and hull-down.  

TankkiPoju #11 Posted 24 June 2017 - 08:58 AM

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Isn't it funny the spare track links count as 20mm spaced armor... on Russian tanks, but not on German?

 

Guys, there is no Russian bias in the game, honest.


Edited by TankkiPoju, 24 June 2017 - 08:58 AM.


tajj7 #12 Posted 24 June 2017 - 11:20 AM

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Doesn't need it at all, Tiger 1 is a support heavy, it has an excellent gun, very high DPM and very high HP, doesn't need much more. 

 

Also most tier 7 heavies have no armour really, only the T29 turret, O-Ni and that's about it, IS,  KV-3 and Tiger P are pretty easy pens for lower tiers and the M4 45 would love half the attributes a Tiger has.



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View PostTankkiPoju, on 24 June 2017 - 08:58 AM, said:

Isn't it funny the spare track links count as 20mm spaced armor... on Russian tanks, but not on German?

 

Guys, there is no Russian bias in the game, honest.

 

Funnily enough...the VK 36.01 H gets a 15mm ordinary armor boost from the spare track links on the front end..

TankkiPoju #14 Posted 24 June 2017 - 02:07 PM

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View PostSnake_Keeper, on 24 June 2017 - 11:55 AM, said:

 

Funnily enough...the VK 36.01 H gets a 15mm ordinary armor boost from the spare track links on the front end..

 

Didn't know that, that's pretty nice.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 24 June 2017 - 01:37 AM, said:

The low armor is the only reason why it has 250 HP more then the T29, and over 2 sec faster reload vs the Tiger P with the same gun. As that's one of the few good aspects about it. Buffing the armor and reducing the ROF will only make it as useless as the Tiger P tbh.

 

giving it a boost of HP that is equivalent to a third of a SU-152 shot isn't helping much...

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View Posttajj7, on 24 June 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Doesn't need it at all, Tiger 1 is a support heavy, it has an excellent gun, very high DPM and very high HP, doesn't need much more. 

 

Also most tier 7 heavies have no armour really, only the T29 turret, O-Ni and that's about it, IS,  KV-3 and Tiger P are pretty easy pens for lower tiers and the M4 45 would love half the attributes a Tiger has.

 

well, Tiger P is pretty strong with its 200mm hull armor, and since they buffed the turret, it's not anymore that easy to kill. Gun reload time sucks though. this being the same turret and gun as the Tiger I, why is the reload time so much worse ??

 

 



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Tiger 1 and tiger 2  absolutely need buff. Specially two of them need buff frontal armor and turret armor.. They are weak agaisnt to same tier vehicles..

ares354 #18 Posted 25 June 2017 - 08:38 AM

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View Posttajj7, on 24 June 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

Doesn't need it at all, Tiger 1 is a support heavy, it has an excellent gun, very high DPM and very high HP, doesn't need much more. 

 

Also most tier 7 heavies have no armour really, only the T29 turret, O-Ni and that's about it, IS,  KV-3 and Tiger P are pretty easy pens for lower tiers and the M4 45 would love half the attributes a Tiger has.

 

AMX 30 b don't need fake armor, it was copy of Leopard 1 with a bit more armor. SO why WG add this armor now and make STB 1 v2 ? 

Will you say that Ferdi dont need armor too, 200 flat work well on TD that should have armor ? 

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We all know that tiger 1 armor was very tough to be penned in wwii because of it materials and its type and even if it was penned it wouldnt mean the tanks is destroyed unlike russian tanks which were almost destroyed (neutralized because the crew is dead) every time it was penned because of the type of the armor but here on wot naaah fak tiger why because russians really hate what tiger did to them in battles of wwii

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View PostAlwaysLate, on 25 June 2017 - 08:48 AM, said:

We all know that tiger 1 armor was very tough to be penned in wwii because of it materials and its type and even if it was penned it wouldnt mean the tanks is destroyed unlike russian tanks which were almost destroyed (neutralized because the crew is dead) every time it was penned because of the type of the armor but here on wot naaah fak tiger why because russians really hate what tiger did to them in battles of wwii

 

No, the Tiger 1 was tough to be penned because there were few guns designed with the expectation of that level of armour when it first saw battle. Later in the war, when T-34's had 85mm guns and the Shermans had been upgraded to 76mm guns, it was no longer so hard to pen.




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