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sir_wizington #1 Posted 25 June 2017 - 06:40 PM

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I was playing tier 8 yesterday and noticed i was bottom tier a lot so today i decided to keep track of what position i was in.

 

Im currently grinding the STA-1 out and played 15 games in it so far today

 

Tier 10 games 11/15

Tier 9 games 3/15

Top tier games 1/15

 

Games are supposed to be fun, it is not fun having to fight TVP 50/5, STVR103b, RU meds and Type5/maus OVER and OVER again in a Tiger II or other crappy tier 8 with nothing going for it.

 

At least the STA Juan  as the 275 lol heat rounds that make being bottom tier less painful.

 

So many players have been complaining about this in chat today and i think Circon has mentioned it once or twice.

 

So come on WG release a micro patch to adjust the MM and fix it. 

 

 



Balc0ra #2 Posted 25 June 2017 - 06:47 PM

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I've been playing my 416 lots lately "Eu2". And I see as many tier 8 games as I see tier X tbh. The only tier 8's I have issues with is limited MM tanks. As they see +0 games constantly. And my IS-6 cant pen anything in those sadly. Even if he ran a full gold load.

 

Then again... 15 games is not really a big sample. Change the server and play 15 more and the results might differ. As the later you play the more tier X games you will see from my experience. Thus I never play tier 8 grinds past midnight. Tho yes we have seen a few topics regarding this, so it's a common complaint. But they never say what server they play on. I suspect most are on EU1. As I can't say I've noticed it on EU2 to much.

 

View Postsir_wizington, on 25 June 2017 - 06:40 PM, said:

 

So come on WG release a micro patch to adjust the MM and fix it. 

 

 

 

And fix it how?  One fix I suspect would work. Would be to eliminate, or reduce +0 games on tier 8 and 9. So they can get a more even spread. As I suspect the high tier 8 premium population on tier 8 at times, will def push the normal tier 8's up more.

Edited by Balc0ra, 25 June 2017 - 06:49 PM.


lord_chipmonk #3 Posted 25 June 2017 - 06:53 PM

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Could you not just have put this in one of the existing threads on the subject?

 



sir_wizington #4 Posted 25 June 2017 - 07:06 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 25 June 2017 - 06:53 PM, said:

Could you not just have put this in one of the existing threads on the subject?

 

 

No because i could not be bothered to find one.

lord_chipmonk #5 Posted 25 June 2017 - 07:07 PM

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View Postsir_wizington, on 25 June 2017 - 07:06 PM, said:

 

No because i could not be bothered to find one.

 

There have been enough that it doesn't take that much effort...

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View PostBalc0ra, on 25 June 2017 - 06:47 PM, said:

I've been playing my 416 lots lately "Eu2". And I see as many tier 8 games as I see tier X tbh. The only tier 8's I have issues with is limited MM tanks. As they see +0 games constantly. And my IS-6 cant pen anything in those sadly. Even if he ran a full gold load.

 

Then again... 15 games is not really a big sample. Change the server and play 15 more and the results might differ. As the later you play the more tier X games you will see from my experience. Thus I never play tier 8 grinds past midnight. Tho yes we have seen a few topics regarding this, so it's a common complaint. But they never say what server they play on. I suspect most are on EU1. As I can't say I've noticed it on EU2 to much.

 

 

And fix it how?  One fix I suspect would work. Would be to eliminate, or reduce +0 games on tier 8 and 9. So they can get a more even spread. As I suspect the high tier 8 premium population on tier 8 at times, will def push the normal tier 8's up more.

 

You are such a WG troll, every time somebody opens the tread with problem, you are here to shut everybody down. Hope they are paying you enough. But as hard as you all WG trolls try, soon the money will run out as people are leaving, and mainly due to zombies like you.



lord_chipmonk #7 Posted 25 June 2017 - 07:36 PM

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Was playing some tier 8 matches myself, so decided to record the tiers. Bear in mind, this is a small number of matches, but I will try to add to it whenever I play some more. This consists of tier 8s with regular MM and that have enough battles played so that they don't get "first match is top tier" syndrome.

 

Tier 8: 3

Tier 9: 7 

Tier 10: 5



Strappster #8 Posted 25 June 2017 - 07:38 PM

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Grinding the Charioteer yesterday and today and from 25 battles ...

 

Tier 8: 15

Tier 9: 7

Tier 10: 3

 

On the other hand, training my future Centurion I crew in the Bromwell and it feels as though I'm bottom tier in 80% of battles.



lafeel #9 Posted 25 June 2017 - 07:49 PM

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View PostStrappster, on 25 June 2017 - 06:38 PM, said:

Grinding the Charioteer yesterday and today and from 25 battles ...

 

Tier 8: 15

Tier 9: 7

Tier 10: 3

 

On the other hand, training my future Centurion I crew in the Bromwell and it feels as though I'm bottom tier in 80% of battles.

 

Feels is not the same thing as it actually being the case though, as I am sure you are aware.

 

Something just is not adding up, you can't have tier 6's always being bottom tier (supposedly) when the tier 8's are also (again supposedly) always bottom tier, it doesn't add up.



Noo_Noo #10 Posted 25 June 2017 - 08:24 PM

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just a question. How many of those tier 8 games were 15 vs 15 T8 tanks? 

I've observed that same and can only remember 1 game where there were tier 6 tanks in the game. 
 

Because of this I've given up on Tier 8 now. Shame as I have some Tier 8 premiums but as I'm not the best player, game balance and similar observations on the MM at that level I'm sick and tired of getting a complete battering. I'm just not good enough to convert some of the close games to wins and many of the others are complete and utter thrashings. 

 

My stats have taken a real tumble since 9:18 more came out and I've been trying to play Tier 8 more and it's honestly taking some of the enjoyment out of the game. So I'm not going to go there a lot for the foreseeable future.


Edited by Noo_Noo, 25 June 2017 - 08:25 PM.


juicyfruity #11 Posted 25 June 2017 - 08:30 PM

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I won't be buying and premiums until they sort the mm out. There, WG, you just lost money! :-(

Richthoffen #12 Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:57 PM

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the whole MM now feels 3 top tiers, 5 not completely useless tanks and 7 xp piñatas / cannon fodder tanks.

on paper WG has found the solution, in praxis it doesn't feel like it is working.. but knowing WG it will not be reverted any time soon



Strappster #13 Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:07 AM

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View Postlafeel, on 25 June 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

Something just is not adding up, you can't have tier 6's always being bottom tier (supposedly) when the tier 8's are also (again supposedly) always bottom tier, it doesn't add up.

 

Yes, that's the point I'm making.



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View Postsir_wizington, on 25 June 2017 - 05:40 PM, said:

I was playing tier 8 yesterday and noticed i was bottom tier a lot so today i decided to keep track of what position i was in.

 

Im currently grinding the STA-1 out and played 15 games in it so far today

 

Tier 10 games 11/15

Tier 9 games 3/15

Top tier games 1/15

 

Games are supposed to be fun, it is not fun having to fight TVP 50/5, STVR103b, RU meds and Type5/maus OVER and OVER again in a Tiger II or other crappy tier 8 with nothing going for it.

 

At least the STA Juan  as the 275 lol heat rounds that make being bottom tier less painful.

 

So many players have been complaining about this in chat today and i think Circon has mentioned it once or twice.

 

So come on WG release a micro patch to adjust the MM and fix it. 

 

 

 

Dont play tier 8 battles if its that bad, buy loads of gold and free exp it

Edited by Dundato, 26 June 2017 - 01:10 AM.


Tidal_Force #15 Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:13 AM

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Title said:

 WG, just what TF is going on with tier 8 matchmaking r?

 

What? I didn't do nothing!

Achibot #16 Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:14 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 25 June 2017 - 05:47 PM, said:

And fix it how?  One fix I suspect would work. Would be to eliminate, or reduce +0 games on tier 8 and 9. So they can get a more even spread. As I suspect the high tier 8 premium population on tier 8 at times, will def push the normal tier 8's up more.

 

Except that's the exact change they did make between .18 & .19 which caused the problem in the first place....



Noo_Noo #17 Posted 26 June 2017 - 11:56 AM

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View Postlafeel, on 25 June 2017 - 07:49 PM, said:

 

Feels is not the same thing as it actually being the case though, as I am sure you are aware.

 

Something just is not adding up, you can't have tier 6's always being bottom tier (supposedly) when the tier 8's are also (again supposedly) always bottom tier, it doesn't add up.

 

You only need 3 tier 8's to make tier 6 at the bottom. The problem is because of tier 10 being the top it puts pressure on Tier 8 games as they need 7 tier 8's for a large number of tier 10 battles. It's drawing the available numbers down at Tier 8. 

 

Its certainly an issue as its being widely reported now.

heaven forbid that WG actually came up with this cunning plan to force you to buy Tier 8 premium tanks and spam gold because you're bottom tier all the time ;)



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View PostNoo_Noo, on 26 June 2017 - 11:56 AM, said:

Heaven forbid that WG actually came up with this cunning plan to force you to buy Tier 8 premium tanks and spam gold because you're bottom tier all the time ;)

 

If anything the new MM will harm sales of Tier 8 premiums because it impacts so negatively on credit earning potential - which I think is why most buy & play T8 premiums.

PauI #19 Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:05 PM

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Improved mm.....we can only get used to this or play something else

And while we decide what to do wg invites us to buy some premiums and prem time

Edited by PauI, 26 June 2017 - 01:32 PM.


Noo_Noo #20 Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:02 PM

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 26 June 2017 - 12:02 PM, said:

 

If anything the new MM will harm sales of Tier 8 premiums because it impacts so negatively on credit earning potential - which I think is why most buy & play T8 premiums.

 

Quite true although he direction its going they'll be the only viable option at tier 8.





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