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Bambodos #1 Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:36 PM

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Honestly, I have never seen a cupola with 20cm thick armor... Ridiculous. Thats just not realistic, Wargaming and you know that.

 

Make CUPOLAS, lower plates and machine gun ports weakspots again!!

 

- VK 100 (Cupola)

- Mauschen (Cupola)

- Type 4 heavy (Cupola)

- Type 5 heavy (Cupola)

- Chrystler K (Cupola, lower plate and Machine gun ports)

- Tiger 2 (Machine gun port)

- Jagdtiger (Machine gun port)

- VK 45 02 B (Machine gun port)

- Defender (lower plate)

- Etc. you get the point. Stop people from pressing that '2' key...

 

DO THIS WARGAMING. THANK YOU!



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AvengerOrion #3 Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:50 PM

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Don't you think Tiger 2 is weak enough as it is, you got almost the whole turret front to shoot at.

 

Defender is a premium, even if it makes sense, it is not going to happen.

Jagdtiger shares it's hull with the Jagdtiger 88, again a premium tank.



1ncompetenc3 #4 Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:52 PM

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There's something incredibly amusing about seeing Tiger II in that list.

Homer_J #5 Posted 25 June 2017 - 10:53 PM

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View PostAvengerOrion, on 25 June 2017 - 10:50 PM, said:

 

Jagdtiger shares it's hull with the Jagdtiger 88, again a premium tank.

 

JT LFP 100mm

 

JT88 LFP 120mm



Isharial #6 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:01 PM

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View PostBambodos, on 25 June 2017 - 10:36 PM, said:

Honestly, I have never seen a cupola with 20cm thick armor... Ridiculous. Thats just not realistic, Wargaming and you know that.

 

Make CUPOLAS, lower plates and machine gun ports weakspots again!!

 

- VK 100 (Cupola)

- Mauschen (Cupola)

- Type 4 heavy (Cupola)

- Type 5 heavy (Cupola)

- Chrystler K (Cupola, lower plate and Machine gun ports)

- Tiger 2 (Machine gun port)

- Jagdtiger (Machine gun port)

- VK 45 02 B (Machine gun port)

- Defender (lower plate)

- Etc. you get the point. Stop people from pressing that '2' key...

 

DO THIS WARGAMING. THANK YOU!

 

VK100 -> as if the cupola would be hittable by the majority of tanks.. if they're smaller than it (most likely) they wont actually be able to hit it in brawling range...

same goes for mauschen, type 4 and type 5...

tiger 2? lol wut? its already got enough weakspots, it doesn't need another

jagdtiger.. could have machine gun port, but why? its only armoured hulldown and when facing the enemy, its sides and rear are butter, and its got a very slow traverse that even heavies can exploit

VK 45, already has the cupola, and the fact that a lot of T9's can go through its turret front without the weakspot, does it need it?

defender, could have a weaker LFP sure, but goodluck giving people refunds to do that....

Chrysler K, should have the machine gun port,its hideable, but allows punishment in open zones without having to load gold ammo, suffers same as defender in that it'll never be changed because of the backlash


 

im all for reducing the amount of prem ammo, but its just not going to happen with the quality of the "average" player


 


 


 



brumbarr #7 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:06 PM

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weakspots ar so 2K16

AvengerOrion #8 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:07 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 25 June 2017 - 10:53 PM, said:

 

JT LFP 100mm

 

JT88 LFP 120mm

 

When did they change that :amazed:

Homer_J #9 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:08 PM

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View PostAvengerOrion, on 25 June 2017 - 11:07 PM, said:

 

When did they change that :amazed:

 

A while back they gave the JT it's historical (so they say, I didn't go down to Bovington and measure it) LFP but as the 88 is a premium it was not changed.

Search_Warrant #10 Posted 25 June 2017 - 11:09 PM

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Make O-I  the mini turrets 100mm so tier5 stand a god dam chance frontally.

DeltaOperator #11 Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:17 AM

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No weakspots – no problem!

 

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BonjiOrongji #12 Posted 26 June 2017 - 03:06 AM

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i find it rather ironic that cupolas are weakspots at all ...  soviet tanks dont have them cause they simply put there head out of the hatchet , lol

Hiisi #13 Posted 26 June 2017 - 03:54 AM

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They just need to do this. Even it's a premium tank, just change and give opportunity to get refund in gold. WG made a mistake (with some premium tanks) and they need to correct it.

 

Also all premium tanks has been nerfed indirectly by adding these new OP broken premiums, even thought it's a indirect nerf it's nerf also. Just fix the broblem, currently these OP premiums are destroing tier 8 randoms and strongholds. Premiums have been fixed before (type 59) for example. Tanks that needs to be fixed asap are defender, patriot, crysler k, e25, obj 907 and lefh. Some others might need small adjustments, but these are the worst.


Edited by Hiisi, 26 June 2017 - 04:06 AM.


Enforcer1975 #14 Posted 26 June 2017 - 06:55 AM

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View PostBonjiOrongji, on 26 June 2017 - 03:06 AM, said:

i find it rather ironic that cupolas are weakspots at all ...  soviet tanks dont have them cause they simply put there head out of the hatchet , lol

And they have no vision drawback either without a cupola. The armor has to be transparent stalinium otherwise they wouldn't be able to see anything. 



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Tiger II is one massive weakspot itself.

redblast #16 Posted 26 June 2017 - 07:52 AM

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View PostAvengerOrion, on 25 June 2017 - 11:50 PM, said:

Don't you think Tiger 2 is weak enough as it is, you got almost the whole turret front to shoot at.

 

Defender is a premium, even if it makes sense, it is not going to happen.

Jagdtiger shares it's hull with the Jagdtiger 88, again a premium tank.

 

if you are tier8 you have to use skill ammo to pen the turret on tiger2 dude.. that's not a weakspot for for tier 6-7-8.. only for 10

 



redblast #17 Posted 26 June 2017 - 07:52 AM

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View PostBambodos, on 25 June 2017 - 11:36 PM, said:

Honestly, I have never seen a cupola with 20cm thick armor... Ridiculous. Thats just not realistic, Wargaming and you know that.

 

Make CUPOLAS, lower plates and machine gun ports weakspots again!!

 

- VK 100 (Cupola)

- Mauschen (Cupola)

- Type 4 heavy (Cupola)

- Type 5 heavy (Cupola)

- Chrystler K (Cupola, lower plate and Machine gun ports)

- Tiger 2 (Machine gun port)

- Jagdtiger (Machine gun port)

- VK 45 02 B (Machine gun port)

- Defender (lower plate)

- Etc. you get the point. Stop people from pressing that '2' key...

 

DO THIS WARGAMING. THANK YOU!

 

Agreed! well..WG actually want people to spend premium ammo.. you know.. money money.. money..

Aikl #18 Posted 26 June 2017 - 08:07 AM

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View Postredblast, on 26 June 2017 - 06:52 AM, said:

 

if you are tier8 you have to use skill ammo to pen the turret on tiger2 dude.. that's not a weakspot for for tier 6-7-8.. only for 10

 

 

The turret face is 185mm flat. If the Tiger 2 is looking at you, just about every T8 can pen that. Those who can't have a large enough gun to overmatch the (40mm) roof, if I'm not too mistaken. If it's looking at something next to you, you can pen the turret sides - there's only like 10 degrees 'arc' where the turret sides are autobounce.

 

The sides are 80 flat. Paper. Frontally you have a paper lower frontal plate and a upper frontal plate that is anything but reliable against 225-ish pen guns. If you angle the Tiger 2 you need to do it carefully, as any overangling will make the side/drivewheel damageable. Lower front plate is a weakspot for most tanks almost no matter what.

 

(285mm APCR pen on a T8 is rather dirty, though. Made it bearable even in T10 as fire support.)


Edited by Aikl, 26 June 2017 - 08:07 AM.


AlwaysLate #19 Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:26 AM

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Hahahahaha its like the tiger 2 needs even weaker armor. are you retarded mate??? Tiger 2 get fked in the L.p and turret with 190 pen gets overmatched on the turret roof and u.p is only effective vs 245>pen...and still asking to nerf it more

HassenderZerhacker #20 Posted 26 June 2017 - 03:32 PM

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View Postredblast, on 26 June 2017 - 07:52 AM, said:

if you are tier8 you have to use skill ammo to pen the turret on tiger2 dude.. that's not a weakspot for for tier 6-7-8.. only for 10

 

no... nearly every tier 8 tank can pen the Tiger II frontally in the turret and even tier 6 tanks are still a threat. lol.

you may want to rethink that one.

 

If anything, the Tiger II deserves a BUFF to its turret armor, I think about 200-220 at the front and 100-120 on the sides would not be excessive. And the roof should be upped to 42mm, the amount of shots with huge damage it takes from 122mm guns overmatching the roof is atrocious.

The hull is quite tender too, but I think a buff to the turret would be enough.

I sold mine immediately when I finished grinding it to get the E75.

 


Edited by HassenderZerhacker, 26 June 2017 - 03:47 PM.





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