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tgm_tx #1 Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:21 PM

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Will you ever fix you fail wargaming MM "system" who favor weak players so they don't quit after lose like 90% of their games and prevent capable players of win almost every game - at it suppose to happen naturally!!!

Zebryk #2 Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:33 PM

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Yesterday I played 20 battles (playing from 5 to 9 tier) in 8 battles I´m 2 tiers under the top and in 12 Battles I´m 1 tier under the top, Or what is the same Im never be Top tier in 20 Battles, PLEASE make a decent MM, I think is not dificult to do, Your MM Remains disgusting

 

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tgm_tx #3 Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:38 PM

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And another MAJOR issues make already kills to count to those who is made most dmg at the given target - it's the most fair and it will leave last hitters imbeciles empty handed at it should also be...

chakmarin #4 Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:39 PM

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Kind joke? We all like kind jokes

Balc0ra #5 Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:41 PM

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View Posttgm_tx, on 26 June 2017 - 12:21 PM, said:

Will you ever fix you fail wargaming MM "system" who favor weak players so they don't quit after lose like 90% of their games and prevent capable players of win almost every game - at it suppose to happen naturally!!!

 

 Wait so... the MM is nicer to weaker players so they win more. But makes better players lose more? Who carries the weak then?

 

View PostZebryk, on 26 June 2017 - 12:33 PM, said:

Yesterday I played 20 battles (playing from 5 to 9 tier) in 8 battles I´m 2 tiers under the top and in 12 Battles I´m 1 tier under the top, Or what is the same Im never be Top tier in 20 Battles, PLEASE make a decent MM, I think is not dificult to do, Your MM Remains disgusting

 

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That is more dependent on time and server then anything at times. If you find it difficult to grind a tank with +2, then change server. As the current MM will make you more -2 or +1 games if you see to many +2. Thus the reason for the more 1 tier under the top as you said.

 

 

View Posttgm_tx, on 26 June 2017 - 12:38 PM, said:

And another MAJOR issues make already kills to count to those who is made most dmg at the given target - it's the most fair and it will leave last hitters imbeciles empty handed at it should also be...

 

Team game..... team game. COD's kill stealing forum is that way ----> But you can tell them to wait for you lose your 1 vs 1 before they "help" next time.

 


Edited by Balc0ra, 26 June 2017 - 12:43 PM.


typhaon #6 Posted 26 June 2017 - 12:50 PM

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It's about time to implement an easy mode with just one tier battles... just be sure to cut XP and credits by 50% to compensate for the lack of challenge...

AC130Pilot #7 Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:05 PM

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View Posttgm_tx, on 26 June 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

And another MAJOR issues make already kills to count to those who is made most dmg at the given target - it's the most fair and it will leave last hitters imbeciles empty handed at it should also be...

 

This idea is worthy of consideration as it will put an end to the frustration regarding personal missions like MT-15 where TDs have to be taken out as well as a certain amount of damage has to be dealt to ensure perfect completion. Doing enough damage is not as difficult as securing your rightful/well earned kill. You have my support!



Hedgehog1963 #8 Posted 26 June 2017 - 01:44 PM

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View Posttyphaon, on 26 June 2017 - 11:50 AM, said:

It's about time to implement an easy mode with just one tier battles... just be sure to cut XP and credits by 50% to compensate for the lack of challenge...

 

They have this in ships.  a PvE mode where you play against bots.

Zebryk #9 Posted 26 June 2017 - 02:27 PM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 26 June 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

 Wait so... the MM is nicer to weaker players so they win more. But makes better players lose more? Who carries the weak then?

 

 

That is more dependent on time and server then anything at times. If you find it difficult to grind a tank with +2, then change server. As the current MM will make you more -2 or +1 games if you see to many +2. Thus the reason for the more 1 tier under the top as you said.

 

 

 

Team game..... team game. COD's kill stealing forum is that way ----> But you can tell them to wait for you lose your 1 vs 1 before they "help" next time.

 

 

Sorry if you are a pro but I play when I can and you think that changing server is the solution, Ok I thik fix the MM is a better solution but I m not a pro :(

AliceUnchained #10 Posted 26 June 2017 - 06:39 PM

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 26 June 2017 - 01:05 PM, said:

 

This idea is worthy of consideration as it will put an end to the frustration regarding personal missions like MT-15 where TDs have to be taken out as well as a certain amount of damage has to be dealt to ensure perfect completion. Doing enough damage is not as difficult as securing your rightful/well earned kill. You have my support!

 

A kill is a kill. Regardless of damage dealt previously. The one dealing the most damage already receives more XP and credits. Being credited with a kill you did not actually bag is just nonsense. The only exception I would consider is when you've set the target on fire and normally it would burn down to 0 HP, but gets snagged by a team mate prior to that (or alternatively when HP has dropped below a certain percentage).

 

Edit: I would suggest everyone to continue discussing this, as the original topic is just garbage and deserving of instant junking + read only gift for OP.


Edited by AliceUnchained, 26 June 2017 - 06:40 PM.


Sapper_Paul #11 Posted 26 June 2017 - 08:55 PM

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I kept a record of the matchmaking for my play recently. Over 40 games playing tiers VI, VII & VIII, 3-4 games played me as first or second rank.

This has become pronounced since two to three weeks ago.

Is it me? Should I be spending money to play?



1ncompetenc3 #12 Posted 26 June 2017 - 08:58 PM

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View PostSapper_Paul, on 26 June 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

I kept a record of the matchmaking for my play recently. Over 40 games playing tiers VI, VII & VIII, 3-4 games played me as first or second rank.

This has become pronounced since two to three weeks ago.

Is it me? Should I be spending money to play?

 

There's nothing* you can do about MM, all you can do is try to make the most of the hand you're dealt.

 

*I have noticed my light tanks being top tier disproportionally often compared to my heavies/mediums so maybe try that class.



shishx_the_animal #13 Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:00 PM

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I played 7 games today and I was top tier in all of those.

 

I also forgot to mention that I only played Tier X.

 

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AliceUnchained #14 Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:29 PM

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View PostSapper_Paul, on 26 June 2017 - 08:55 PM, said:

I kept a record of the matchmaking for my play recently. Over 40 games playing tiers VI, VII & VIII, 3-4 games played me as first or second rank.

 

If you kept a record, as you say, you'd know exactly whether it's 3 or 4. Not 3-4. So which is it? P.S. Be sure to check your 'record'.



AC130Pilot #15 Posted 26 June 2017 - 09:31 PM

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View PostAliceUnchained, on 26 June 2017 - 05:39 PM, said:

The one dealing the most damage already receives more XP and credits.

 

Which is why a "display as kill for player only if damage dealt by player is greater than all damage received by damaged vehicle" parameter should be introduced without changing experience calculations. The one who kills the tank gets the same amount of exp as before, but the kill gets counted to the player who dealt the greatest damage who will get exp for all other actions he/she did except for the displayed kill. I guess it can be called "the phantom kill". Might encourage players to focus on a single target till it's neutralized. Also, TD-15 would become a bit easier to complete (at least for high α TDs like ISU-152, Jagdpanzer E 100 because if you hit once and few allies with low α tanks also hit 1 time each you will be the one who dealt the most damage quite oftenly).






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