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Poll: Matchmaker you enjoy (45 members have cast votes)

You have to complete 250 battles in order to participate this poll.

What matchmaker you enjoy most?

  1. Remove 3 tiers battles completely ( 3/5/7 ). (13 votes [28.89%])

    Percentage of vote: 28.89%

  2. 3 tiers battle should be only last resort if there are not enough players in queue for 1 or 2 tiers battles. (11 votes [24.44%])

    Percentage of vote: 24.44%

  3. Keep 3/5/7 as priority, but add algorithm that prevent same person to be bottom tier ( even with different tank ) more than twice in a row. (9 votes [20.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 20.00%

  4. The current system ( when you mostly end up as bottom if youre not playing tier X ) is just awesome. (5 votes [11.11%])

    Percentage of vote: 11.11%

  5. Revert to the old system where you could end up as being the only bottom tier. (7 votes [15.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 15.56%

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Horcan #1 Posted 27 June 2017 - 06:11 PM

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I hope i didnt forget any options and i really hope WG would not delete this, maybe even put it as their own poll on main page so as many as possible people see it and vote.

Edited by Horcan, 27 June 2017 - 08:27 PM.


thiextar #2 Posted 27 June 2017 - 06:16 PM

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Something needs to be done atleast, current matchmaker is just broken. Worse than ever before.

Edited by thiextar, 27 June 2017 - 06:16 PM.


CmdRatScabies #3 Posted 27 June 2017 - 06:22 PM

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I'd be happy if they boosted Tier 8 credits when we get Tier 9/10 games.  Too painful grinding credits at Tier 8 at the moment. At least with the old system the pain all came in one terrible game rather than being drawn out into 20 miserable ones.

Enforcer1975 #4 Posted 27 June 2017 - 06:23 PM

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I want the option "I always want to be top tier" in a 3 tier setting 1/1/13 with the next tier being 3 tiers lower.

JuliusCheddar #5 Posted 27 June 2017 - 06:24 PM

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This gets kinda spammy but at the same time this is the most serious problem this game had since +4 general matchmaking and arties in their prime, so the more threads the better. 

Wargaming is really handicapping themselves refusing to implement +1 MM



Alabamatick #6 Posted 27 June 2017 - 06:33 PM

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View PostHorcan, on 27 June 2017 - 05:11 PM, said:

I hope i didnt forget any options and i really hope WG would not delete this, maybe even put it as their own poll on main page so as many as possible people see it and vote.

 

You missed at least 1 option, pre 3/5/7 mm

Horcan #7 Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:04 PM

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No, i do  think 3/5/7 is better than the times when you were bottom tier and the only one of that kind, like playng AMX 40 for example and games was full of tier 5-6 , only you tier 4.

fighting_falcon93 #8 Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:05 PM

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I don't know why players complain about the 3/5/7, it works very well. Even when you are bottom tier, you have much more targets to shoot at, and it feels like you can actaully contribute more to the battle. The only problem right now is that the MM doesn't balance teams around all classes and hp.

Alabamatick #9 Posted 27 June 2017 - 07:49 PM

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View PostHorcan, on 27 June 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

No, i do  think 3/5/7 is better than the times when you were bottom tier and the only one of that kind, like playng AMX 40 for example and games was full of tier 5-6 , only you tier 4.

 

But thats what you think and polls are used to find out what others think and if you don't put a full range of options, then it's a biased poll and won't inform what all voters like

Horcan #10 Posted 27 June 2017 - 08:28 PM

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View PostAlabamatick, on 27 June 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

 

But thats what you think and polls are used to find out what others think and if you don't put a full range of options, then it's a biased poll and won't inform what all voters like

 

There you go.

w00lfie #11 Posted 27 June 2017 - 11:53 PM

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as I said before if u want a fair match. why not one tank of each type on each side

with the same skills

and same upgrades etc.

if there is as many players as they say there is this would be easy to do 



1ncompetenc3 #12 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:01 AM

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The way I see it, everything that changed after 9.17 was better in 9.17.



Isharial #13 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:34 AM

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I actually prefer the new MM, I thought I wouldn't, but there you go

its better as a bottom tier, no longer do I end up against 15 T8's with my T6 med, yknow, I might actually rebuy the T-34-85 one day, as that was my prime selling point

View PostHorcan, on 27 June 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

No, i do  think 3/5/7 is better than the times when you were bottom tier and the only one of that kind, like playng AMX 40 for example and games was full of tier 5-6 , only you tier 4.

 

the part about the MM here is what I think about the MM before the 3-5-7 system


 

they both however suffer from imbalance of tank types

if your going to put 2 super heavies on the enemy team, you atleast need a counter to that, that's going to work on the current map its on

2 ISU can counter 2 VK100P's, but they cant on himmelsdorf.. so they, in that situation, are not a counter to it


 

but coding such an MM system would be lengthy, and might make games waiting times longer as well... as if either are an actual downside

View Postw00lfie, on 27 June 2017 - 11:53 PM, said:

as I said before if u want a fair match. why not one tank of each type on each side

with the same skills

and same upgrades etc.

if there is as many players as they say there is this would be easy to do

 

wouldn't work in reality

finding another playing with a stock V39? would be pretty much 1 in a million (and yes people do play with that, so dismissing it is not an option)

same skills? at that point it would take 20 years to find another similar skill set on a tank

I don't think there are many out there, that actively play, and keep a 4 skill crew on their AC 46 that could be matched against mine...


 

there are a lot of players, but the lesser used tank lines, like the French TD etc.. aren't played and your MM wont work for them, it will for stetpedding T67's.. loads of them around, but an AC 46? when was the last time you saw one of those in a battle? let alone 2....



w00lfie #14 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:48 AM

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mm is a bit better no longer do I get kv s in my pz  I now get matildas and dw2  :bush:

w00lfie #15 Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:12 AM

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sorry  I should have said one tank of each type means heavy, td, med,  light,

not tiger v tiger  it could be  tiger kv  or tiger t 29

its the 6 heavies  vs 3  or 6 meds vs 6 tds  

I hate those matches 

its the wording that was wrong sorry 

Isarial 

 



PauI #16 Posted 28 June 2017 - 08:18 AM

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I would like a fair syatem
33% top tier, 33% middle tier and 33% low tier....some error margin is ok but like this craphave today

S3n0R #17 Posted 29 June 2017 - 10:11 PM

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Well after complaining so much in tickets I ll speak only once in here. I am here to play not type. If I wanted to type and chat, I would be on facebook. I AM HERE TO PLAY AND I PAY FOR IT. So ... You want to tell me with so many thousands of players online the same time, you can' t find 30 tanks of the same tier to put together and built a battle? Trust me, If we wait for 10 - 30 seconds more for a battle and we always get a fair battle no one will complain. I was reading, this new of yours, the other day saying that you think the Match Make from 9.18 is fair .... Are you really that naive? Or you think we are totally crazy? Who consider a battle with tier 6 heavies against tier 8 lights  as fair? You want to tell me, you can t wait 5 more seconds to built a more fair match? Some times, It makes me wonder If you support a specific group of players and you make favors to them .... because I can' t explain it otherwise to play, for example 10 battles in a raw with totally useless players .... in a totally useless match make ... Do you respect the people who pay you money? Or you don' t give a crap? You actually guide me to a video, in one of my tickets, saying that the new MM if is not that fair in a battle will try to be more fair in the next ones. I never saw that If I play 10 battles in a raw and I am never top tier. Explain me this please.

 

Give me a good reason to change my mind and forget everything I wrote in this message ....  

 

And the last thing I want to ask is this .... Give a good reason, to give more money to you if you ruin my game every single night since you change to this horrible match make. Who would ever imagine from - 3 tiers on lights to be +2 tiers .... I got nothing more to say. Next step is to uninstall this game and not waste anymore of my time. I gave you an Idea of what I think not fair. I also gave you a hint that a few more seconds for a more fair match wont harm anyone .... If you want listen. Other wise loose more customers ... There is also War thunder and Armored Warfare .... Goodnight!

  


Edited by S3n0R, 29 June 2017 - 10:15 PM.


SABAOTH #18 Posted 29 June 2017 - 10:23 PM

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3 5 7 is not bad, but the high chance of being bottom tier when playing 8 is needing some rework.

 

BUt the idea to have 3 top dogs, good mid range and low dogs is pretty ok as everyone got their chance.


Edited by SABAOTH, 29 June 2017 - 10:23 PM.


S3n0R #19 Posted 29 June 2017 - 10:28 PM

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It wouldn' t be bad it it was fair enough to be 3,5,7. Once bottom tier, once middle tier and one top tier. If, though, you are bottome tier in 9 out of 10 battles then is not good at all. Because this is what is happening and I am almost sure Wargaming is doing favors  to a specific group of players. 

Zhongze_Li #20 Posted 29 June 2017 - 10:39 PM

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TBH prioritize +1 matchmaking over same tier matchmaking and +2 matchmaking will decrease the frustration a lot, but this is the last thing WG want to do money-wise.




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