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TheAnnihilator_1 #1 Posted 27 June 2017 - 11:03 PM

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Ahhhhh, so here we are again.

 I would like to mention a list of tanks who i believe need to be nerfed in some way shape or form due to their overpowering capabilities on the matchmaker.

-Maus, you buffed the armour of an already well armored tank.

-Type 5 heavy, (Dito) as well as providing a drawback of its premium shell so it hasn't got the same pen and more damage.

-Liberte, gun is too good and frontal armour OP.

-Skorpion G, gun has a ridiculously good gun handling is OP.

-Patriot, everything is OP.

-Defender, lower plate too strong.

-E25, do i need to mention?

-Artillery, lower ROF or remove.

I understand if anyone disagrees but there is no doubt about it that these tanks are too good for the same and lower tiers.

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RockyRoller #2 Posted 27 June 2017 - 11:14 PM

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The odd thing about the Skorpion G is that it is an open to the elements tank that takes quite a few hits to actually kill. Being open air a T 1 tank should be able to 1 shot kill all the crew even it the actual tank isn't scratched.

_EXODUZ_ #3 Posted 27 June 2017 - 11:17 PM

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I see this premium tank of yours. Maybe buff it a little? So you can do 3 shots on average? :)

 



HeidenSieker #4 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:32 AM

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View PostTheAnnihilator_1, on 27 June 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

Ahhhhh, so here we are again.

 

-Maus, you buffed the armour of an already well armored tank.

 

It's supposed to be, isn't it.

Balc0ra #5 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:35 AM

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A: Maus and Type is on the WG "adjust" list. As they have admitted to "over buffing" them. Then again... it took them over a year to correct the E5 "over buff". So who knows.

 

The rest are premium tanks. They won't get touched ever. E25 was removed from sale vs nerfing it to name one. As I'm sure you would not be to happy if they suddenly nerfed something you payed real money for? WG did try that once... did not go to well.

 

Sure the Skorpion G has a good gun. But if you press 3 and fire, you kill half his crew and cripple him.. and deal more damage then your AP. And sure the Defender has a good lower plate. But both his cupolas on the turret roof have a hit box. And if you are close to him... go for those vs his lower plate. Narrow target. But most lower tier guns has a bigger chance on hitting those, then penning the lower plate.



brumbarr #6 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:38 AM

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View PostTheAnnihilator_1, on 27 June 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

 

-Liberte, gun is too good and frontal armour OP.

 

Stopped readign right there



NUKLEAR_SLUG #7 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:40 AM

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View PostTheAnnihilator_1, on 27 June 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

Ahhhhh, so here we are again.

 I would like to mention a list of tanks who i believe need to be nerfed in some way shape or form due to their overpowering capabilities on the matchmaker.

-Maus, you buffed the armour of an already well armored tank.

-Type 5 heavy, (Dito) as well as providing a drawback of its premium shell so it hasn't got the same pen and more damage.

-Liberte, gun is too good and frontal armour OP.

-Skorpion G, gun has a ridiculously good gun handling is OP.

-Patriot, everything is OP.

-Defender, lower plate too strong.

-E25, do i need to mention?

-Artillery, lower ROF or remove.

I understand if anyone disagrees but there is no doubt about it that these tanks are too good for the same and lower tiers.

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good luck on the battlefield

 

Have you considered the possibility the problem is you just don't know how to handle them?

ares354 #8 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:56 AM

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Maus and Type 5 need rework, no [edited]nerf. Click on premium ammo, see how Maus and Type 5 bounce much less. He he, WG balance. 

Jigabachi #9 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:11 AM

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View PostNUKLEAR_SLUG, on 28 June 2017 - 12:40 AM, said:

Have you considered the possibility the problem is you just don't know how to handle them?

Yes, because he is totally the only one complaining about those tanks. We never had a thread like this before.



Dragonlordcv #10 Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:57 AM

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Problem has been solved. WG introduced new MM. Who plays T8 prems anymore? I know i don't.

Edited by Dragonlordcv, 28 June 2017 - 06:57 AM.


JuliusCheddar #11 Posted 28 June 2017 - 07:03 AM

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Oooh my God OP, I'm so glad you noticed these glaring flaws of the game. What would we do without you? 

DuncaN_101 #12 Posted 28 June 2017 - 08:42 AM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 28 June 2017 - 12:38 AM, said:

Stopped readign right there

 

I came too that point and kinda regretted clicking on this thread. 

(and kinda mad at myself for even replying now) 



SABAOTH #13 Posted 28 June 2017 - 08:47 AM

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View Postares354, on 28 June 2017 - 12:56 AM, said:

Maus and Type 5 need rework, no [edited]nerf. Click on premium ammo, see how Maus and Type 5 bounce much less. He he, WG balance. 

 

But that's probably the whole point. Lot's of credits bundles in the shop. :coin:

Kozzy #14 Posted 28 June 2017 - 09:02 AM

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View PostDragonlordcv, on 28 June 2017 - 05:57 AM, said:

Problem has been solved. WG introduced new MM. Who plays T8 prems anymore? I know i don't.

 

Exactly!  T8 is a mess right now.  I simply don't play it at the moment, T7 on the other hand...

AC130Pilot #15 Posted 28 June 2017 - 09:13 AM

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View PostTheAnnihilator_1, on 27 June 2017 - 10:03 PM, said:

-Artillery, lower ROF or remove.

 

I can suggest going down the American SPG line to T92 and/or USSR SPG line to Obj. 261 so you come to an understanding of what SPGs are capable of and what are not. You have 31 battles in the class of SPG (T1 HMC: 6; M7 Priest: 14; M37: 2; Loyd GC: 9), but I suspect you abandoned playing it quite a while ago which is a pity.

 

The only way to defeat your enemy is to know your enemy (its advantages, limits, weaknesses), not by blaming one's superiority.



Sfinski #16 Posted 28 June 2017 - 09:30 AM

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 28 June 2017 - 09:13 AM, said:

 

I can suggest going down the American SPG line to T92 and/or USSR SPG line to Obj. 261 so you come to an understanding of what SPGs are capable of and what are not. You have 31 battles in the class of SPG (T1 HMC: 6; M7 Priest: 14; M37: 2; Loyd GC: 9), but I suspect you abandoned playing it quite a while ago which is a pity.

 

The only way to defeat your enemy is to know your enemy (its advantages, limits, weaknesses), not by blaming one's superiority.

 

Please do tell how you defeat arty. Camping isn't solution and moving doesn't help. So what else is there?



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View PostSfinski, on 28 June 2017 - 08:30 AM, said:

Please do tell how you defeat arty. Camping isn't solution and moving doesn't help. So what else is there?

 

Do you really need constructive advice on how to perform counter-artillery maneuvers or, judging by your intonation of "do tell", you just want to argue? I might be misjudging, so just ask if you need a few tips.

Sfinski #18 Posted 28 June 2017 - 10:22 AM

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 28 June 2017 - 10:19 AM, said:

 

Do you really need constructive advice on how to perform counter-artillery maneuvers or, judging by your intonation of "do tell", you just want to argue? I might be misjudging, so just ask if you need a few tips.

 

I really do need them as even playing recently at unicum level I have had no luck avoiding arty,  unless I'd start camping, which isn't really playing at all...



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View PostTheAnnihilator_1, on 27 June 2017 - 11:03 PM, said:

Ahhhhh, so here we are again.

 I would like to mention a list of tanks who i believe need to be nerfed in some way shape or form due to their overpowering capabilities on the matchmaker.

-Maus, you buffed the armour of an already well armored tank.

-Type 5 heavy, (Dito) as well as providing a drawback of its premium shell so it hasn't got the same pen and more damage.

-Liberte, gun is too good and frontal armour OP.

-Skorpion G, gun has a ridiculously good gun handling is OP.

-Patriot, everything is OP.

-Defender, lower plate too strong.

-E25, do i need to mention?

-Artillery, lower ROF or remove.

I understand if anyone disagrees but there is no doubt about it that these tanks are too good for the same and lower tiers.

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Haha, you seriously think arty is OP and need nerfing? hilarious.



AC130Pilot #20 Posted 28 June 2017 - 11:01 AM

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View PostSfinski, on 28 June 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

I really do need them as even playing recently at unicum level I have had no luck avoiding arty,  unless I'd start camping, which isn't really playing at all...

 

LT: try to be as unpredictable as possible (irregular zig zags, sudden loops, change of direction); never fully stop if spotting actively and if an SPG has opened fire at you look at the direction it's shooting from regarding damage markers (with that information start evading perpendicularly with relation to the line of fire of SPG so you drive out of its effective angles and cause it to re-aim);

 

MT: same as LT, but you're slower, so you have to make decisions faster and try to predict if SPG might fire at you (if you're leading the attack, the chance of that is high; if you're not moving you are an easy target and will get shot at); if attacking, try to do it in a group so SPG has to choose (chances of it choosing you lower as there might be slower, less agile targets);

 

HT: taking into account what's written above, but you're very slow, so you even have to plan the main movement direction and see if there's enough cover (mountain, rocks, etc.); you can't escape, so make sure not to trap yourself;

 

TD: out of active classes this seems to be shot at the least, excluding armourless TDs like Scorpion G (judging by the games I've had in TDs); just play the usual way (bush->aim->wait->shoot); some TDs might require tactics of HTs (Jagdtiger, etc.);

 

SPG: just play the usual way (shoot all visible, uncovered targets; trace enemy SPGs if you get traced or if enemy SPG is causing serious problems to the team (e.g. blocking movement in a certain direction of a map)).


Edited by AC130Pilot, 28 June 2017 - 12:32 PM.





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