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_T_A_R_S_ #1 Posted 28 June 2017 - 09:27 AM

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You modified the MM and tanks with good penetration or mobility have mm with just 3 tanks who are with +2 tiers. The SMM tanks remain with same penetration and mobility and they have same MM, with more than 3 tanks who are with +2 tiers. I think this is not fair.

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discrimined

 

wtf frackety frack frack??



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View Post_T_A_R_S_, on 28 June 2017 - 08:27 AM, said:

You modified the MM and tanks with good penetration or mobility have mm with just 3 tanks who are with +2 tiers. The SMM tanks remain with same penetration and mobility and they have same MM, with more than 3 tanks who are with +2 tiers. I think this is not fair.

 

I'm entirely happy with those special Tier VIII MM tanks I like under the present MM.

 

-Never see Tier X

-See no more than five Tier IX, most of the time it would be three

-Lots of Tier VIII only battles

-Can be one of three top Tier VII tanks sometimes.



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View PostCeeb, on 28 June 2017 - 09:28 AM, said:

discrimined

 

wtf frackety frack frack??

 

Do they need their safe space though? 

Shnuks #5 Posted 28 June 2017 - 10:30 AM

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Special MM tank lives matter!!!!!!

Edited by Shnuks, 28 June 2017 - 10:30 AM.


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View PostHedgehog1963, on 28 June 2017 - 11:20 AM, said:

 

I'm entirely happy with those special Tier VIII MM tanks I like under the present MM.

 

-Never see Tier X

-See no more than five Tier IX, most of the time it would be three

-Lots of Tier VIII only battles

-Can be one of three top Tier VII tanks once every blue moon.

 

Fixed that for you, hope you do not mind.

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If I play with IS-6 or 112 and I meet 2xVKB, T95, Mauschen, E75 and E50, the battle is gone...

Hedgehog1963 #8 Posted 28 June 2017 - 11:29 AM

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View PostRaffy5, on 28 June 2017 - 10:18 AM, said:

 

Fixed that for you, hope you do not mind.

 

"Your mileage may vary." My experience of late has been rather good in that respect.  I've played Type 59 and my Alien a lot of late and I've had some nice experiences at top tier.  I aced the Alien last week.
 

View Post_T_A_R_S_, on 28 June 2017 - 10:24 AM, said:

If I play with IS-6 or 112 and I meet 2xVKB, T95, Mauschen, E75 and E50, the battle is gone...

 

Trick there is to support your Tier IX HTs.
 

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 28 June 2017 - 12:29 PM, said:

 

"Your mileage may vary." My experience of late has been rather good in that respect.  I've played Type 59 and my Alien a lot of late and I've had some nice experiences at top tier.  I aced the Alien last week.

 

My T8 SMM see mostly tier 9, few full 8 and 3-5-7 as top tier like I said, once every blue moon.

Before SMM tanks had much better MM, now T9, T9, T9, T9, full T8, T9, T9, full T8, maybe 3-5-7 as top tier and again T9....T9.......



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View Post_T_A_R_S_, on 28 June 2017 - 11:24 AM, said:

If I play with IS-6 or 112 and I meet 2xVKB, T95, Mauschen, E75 and E50, the battle is gone...

 

bro these "unicums" know everything,they are the king, they are the proggramer of this game.WHAT EVER THEY ARE.I have only 1 tier 8 premium tank and its IS-6.It was so good when i bought it.It isnt worth to buy after the new MM.If WG changes anything, they have to be considerate to the people who cant pay for new OP tanks.They cant understand.Cant pen an is3 from under front armor.175mm cant even pen a not angled defender and is3 armor from under front.We usually play full tier 8 matches so i cant see VII or VI (%5~10)
 

View PostHedgehog1963, on 28 June 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

 

Trick there is to support your Tier IX HTs.

 

when we bought this tank we were okey with old mm? I didnt want to be a supporter but WG changed it why i become a supporter? I think you are talking toooooo trash if they change the roles they must give us a change/free change with other premiums/give our golds back/buff CHANCE.
 

Edited by VMX, 01 July 2017 - 10:42 AM.


Hedgehog1963 #11 Posted 28 June 2017 - 11:41 AM

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View Postpvtkellys, on 28 June 2017 - 10:40 AM, said:

 

when we bought this tank we were okey with old mm? I didnt want to be a supporter but WG changed it why i become a supporter? I think you are talking toooooo trash if they change the roles they must give us a change CHANCE.

 

You could always see Tier IX.  Nothing has changed as far as MM in that regard.

Edited by Hedgehog1963, 28 June 2017 - 11:42 AM.


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View PostHedgehog1963, on 28 June 2017 - 11:41 AM, said:

 

You could always see Tier IX.  Nothing has changed as far as MM in that regard.

 

i can swear old mm was better for me (IS-6) at least we were playing tier 7 matches

Edited by pvtkellys, 28 June 2017 - 11:44 AM.


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View PostRaffy5, on 28 June 2017 - 10:32 AM, said:

 

My T8 SMM see mostly tier 9, few full 8 and 3-5-7 as top tier like I said, once every blue moon.

Before SMM tanks had much better MM, now T9, T9, T9, T9, full T8, T9, T9, full T8, maybe 3-5-7 as top tier and again T9....T9.......

 

What did you see before?  Teams where half the enemy were tier IX.  You don't see that any more.
 

View Postpvtkellys, on 28 June 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

 

i can swear old mm was better for me (IS-6)

 

You can swear all you like.

 

IS-6 isn't in a great place for those of us who are not super players. 


 

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 28 June 2017 - 11:43 AM, said:

 

What did you see before?  Teams where half the enemy were tier IX.  You don't see that any more.

 

There was no OP tanks like cyrsler,defender.I see them all the games now.Old mm wasnt work like 3-5-7 or 15-15 or 5-10 so the CODES werent work for match the same tier tanks equal styles.if i be honest My tanks were  %50 getting middle or top tier and %50 hard matches (like you said 7 tier 9).but now %90(%80 of them 5-10) hard matches i exude all the games for pen tanks.I always wait for pen their under armor , others are pennig my front up armor.if i recorded myself playing wot with old mm it was ok.But now i always rage cause of bounces.

Edited by pvtkellys, 28 June 2017 - 11:57 AM.


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View PostHedgehog1963, on 28 June 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

 

You could always see Tier IX.  Nothing has changed as far as MM in that regard.

 

It has changed that the occurrence of T9 is more often now, before not so much, before there was more of a balance between T9 games and T8 and lower tier tank games.

Now it is not even 3-5-7 with T9 as top tier but the second type with T9 and rest T8 - so much worse than the MM that was before.

 

With this new system SMM tanks got the middle finger.



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IS 6 41 EUROES 164 Turkish Lira AND Defender 40 EUROES 160 Turkish lira
IS 6 was so good until these pop up the money was worth to buy the time was worth to spend the game was worth to play.But now......Give me Defender i wanna see Tier X games delete my IS-6 is it possible?exactly no.

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View Postpvtkellys, on 28 June 2017 - 11:43 AM, said:

i can swear old mm was better for me (IS-6)

 

Correct, you're now multiple times more likely to be matched against HTs you cannot penetrate.


Edited by Ubersonic, 28 June 2017 - 12:24 PM.


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View Post_T_A_R_S_, on 28 June 2017 - 09:27 AM, said:

You modified the MM and tanks with good penetration or mobility have mm with just 3 tanks who are with +2 tiers. The SMM tanks remain with same penetration and mobility and they have same MM, with more than 3 tanks who are with +2 tiers. I think this is not fair.

 

Well some of them have been buffed recently. Tho only 1 on pen "SP". But the +2 tanks like the Lowe etc needed to keep up with the new tier X meta they face. IS-6 have faced the tanks you mentioned since he arrived. But I'm glad you are not having issues with the new tier 8 premiums. As I find it easier to fight a tier 9 HT vs some of those in my IS-6, as they see pure tier 8 matches more then anything.

 

IS-6 and KV-5 are planned to be buffed in 2 patches along with a large number of Russian tanks. Tho no idea what tanks atm. I hoped the Matilda VI would be there to. But with the Jap HT nerfs on the O-I's...At least her pen will be enough for their rear armor finally.



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View Postpvtkellys, on 28 June 2017 - 10:56 AM, said:

 

There was no OP tanks like cyrsler,defender.I see them all the games now.Old mm wasnt work like 3-5-7 or 15-15 or 5-10 so the CODES werent work for match the same tier tanks equal styles.if i be honest My tanks were  %50 getting middle or top tier and %50 hard matches (like you said 7 tier 9).but now %90(%80 of them 5-10) hard matches i exude all the games for pen tanks.I always wait for pen their under armor , others are pennig my front up armor.if i recorded myself playing wot with old mm it was ok.But now i always rage cause of bounces.

 

Chrysler and Defender are Tier VIII, so the reason you're seeing them with your IS-6 has nothing to do with MM.  Your argument is a bit muddled.

 

I don't disagree that IS-6 vs Ru252/Defender is a hard game.  I think a buff to Is-6 penetration is needed.  WG would rather you buy a Defender, so their motivation is hard to see.

 

View PostRaffy5, on 28 June 2017 - 11:03 AM, said:

 

It has changed that the occurrence of T9 is more often now, before not so much, before there was more of a balance between T9 games and T8 and lower tier tank games.

Now it is not even 3-5-7 with T9 as top tier but the second type with T9 and rest T8 - so much worse than the MM that was before.

 

With this new system SMM tanks got the middle finger.

 

I used to see games where there were seven Tier IX in the enemy team.  With the new MM I never do.  The worst now are the five Tier IX with nine Tier VIII matches.  I don't mind seeing three Tier IX.  But then I'm not driving my IS-6.
 

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Used to play T-34-3 now is super bad and annoying. Before you could see T6 and T7 so there were stuff to pen without 2 key. Now T9 and rest T8, harder MM.




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