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Centurion 7/1 gun handling stats still “justified”?

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Thalgardis #1 Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:10 PM

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I don’t think so.

 

So far the Cent 7/1 got a baseline 0.17 for all 3 modi (moving, tank traverse, turret traverse), those stats are combined the worst of all Tier 9 mediums.

I’m fully aware that the T54E1 and AMX 30 have a 0.19 in 1 or 2 of those stats, but therefore are compensated in the others.

The 0.17 for the Cent 7/1 was said to be“justified” because of its 268 high pen apcr standard round and the 0.31 dispersion while maintaining, the 2cnd lowest T9 med dpm, low camo value due heavy tank size, weak ammorack and moderate/situational turret armor since the change to a hd model.

With the latest introduction of lights up to tier 10 the arcade styled game has picked up in pace even more and tanks like the Cent 7/1 fall behind even further because of their inflexibility.

So as a logical consequence those stats should be changed, especially on gun handling on turret traverse down to 0.10-0.13 baseline.

 

Maybe I am the only one seeing it this way, but in my book the Cen7/1 is in need of another overhaul.



tajj7 #2 Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:42 PM

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Nope, it clearly needs more buffs.

 

It used to have turret armour, and it used to be one of the few tier 9 meds with tier 10 penetration, but since then if got the turret nerfed when it went into HD, but got no buffs for it and tanks like the Type 61, AMX 30 er, Leopard pta etc. have the same gun and are just better. 

 

 



MindCrack #3 Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:58 PM

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Yeah the turret is just weak, I used to bounce Jageru shells with ease and now I get penned by a centurion 1 while I am hull down and if they buff the rate of fire just a bit and turret it would be one of the better tier 9 meds

Ceeb #4 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:04 PM

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None of the tanks in history have ripped apart Russian tanks like the Centurion has.... no way will WG make it equal or better or even competitive against the Russian tanks (T-54, T-55, T62, 140) 



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View PostCeeb, on 28 June 2017 - 03:04 PM, said:

None of the tanks in history have ripped apart Russian tanks like the Centurion has.... no way will WG make it equal or better or even competitive against the Russian tanks (T-54, T-55, T62, 140) 

 

True that. Must be why WG will never allow Brits to reach their true potential in game. lol

mortalsatsuma #6 Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:08 PM

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WG seem to have a serious hard-on about nerfing Brit tanks, specifically gun mantlets. I mean the Comet used to have a pretty good mantlet pre-HD nerf which meant when using its 12' of gun dep, it could be quite, y'know, tanky. Now, the mantlet is made of wet toilet tissue.

 

Pretty sure it's a similar story with the black Prince.  



ares354 #7 Posted 28 June 2017 - 06:12 PM

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Loepard 1 has worse sotft stats on gun then T62 and 140. And its paper tank, but WG dont care. 1.9 sec aim time, all you cna see in game. And looks good...

1ncompetenc3 #8 Posted 28 June 2017 - 07:12 PM

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It's a British tank; it's best to remain quiet about those because WG knows only how to nerf them, not how to make them competitive. Better not rock the boat.

gpalsson #9 Posted 28 June 2017 - 08:09 PM

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It's British, so it needs to be trash.
Everyone knows WG hate British tanks so it's unsurprising, really.

FluffyRedFox #10 Posted 28 June 2017 - 08:12 PM

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Wow, a British tank needs a buff?

Who'd of guessed



Yakito #11 Posted 29 June 2017 - 11:06 AM

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This is sad. British mediums are gorgeous tanks. And yet they have to suffer so much hate from wg.

Ceeb #12 Posted 29 June 2017 - 11:45 AM

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View PostYakito, on 29 June 2017 - 10:06 AM, said:

This is sad. British mediums are gorgeous tanks. And yet they have to suffer so much hate from wg.

 

I agree.  Centurion, Cent 7/1 and AX do look awesome, but red gaming community would be up in arms if one of them was better than a Red tank. 

 

Saying that... i do love driving them



arthurwellsley #13 Posted 29 June 2017 - 11:51 AM

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Agreed Centurion 7/1 needs a buff.

 

But as others have mentioned, quite a number of British tanks in World of Tanks need buffing, and woefully under perform in their tier.

 

Some of the above posters have suggested WG have a bias against British tanks. But remember WG are Belarussian not Russian.

 

As also said above in real life combat Centurions ripped apart T54, T55, and T62a manned by elite professional soldiers, when the Centurion crews were part time conscripts.

 

see https://en.wikipedia...Valley_of_Tears

 

But I suspect that the real reason that the British tanks have a tendency to be under powered in World of Tanks, is that it is extremely easy to gain access to British records, and real life tanks in British museums. So when World of Tanks was being created the armour values for British Tanks was easy for the developers to obtain. Thus they did not have to worry so much about balancing the vehicles for the game, but more about historical accuracy.

 

Nonetheless it is now time to buff a number of British ingame tanks, not the least of which is the Centurion 7/1!



Ceeb #14 Posted 29 June 2017 - 12:07 PM

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They might Belorussian but they have a heavy bias towards soviet era armour, its not like you saw the Belarus military driving around in a M60 eh! 

 

Its subjective,  People like the tanks they saw as kids,  for me that was the Leo 1 to A2, Chieftain, Scorpion. (Centurion as a gate guardian) and Aircraft like the Lightning, Buccaneer, Jaguar, Harrier.   Makers of WoT are the same, they're biased for the tanks that they saw a lot off been around. 

 

But please give the Brits some loving, we need it. 


Edited by Ceeb, 29 June 2017 - 12:17 PM.


Poerhis #15 Posted 29 June 2017 - 12:37 PM

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Considering that the Centurion 7 is one of the best performing tier 9 meds by winrate, I doubt it's getting a buff.

lupinW #16 Posted 29 June 2017 - 12:37 PM

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they did the same Edited with british tech tree in world of warships. wg totally hates british nation

 

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing.


Edited by VMX, 04 July 2017 - 10:28 AM.


IncandescentGerbil #17 Posted 29 June 2017 - 12:41 PM

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The performance of Russian tanks in this game relative to British is what you get when developers are raised on a diet of Soviet propaganda. They probably still believe the edited they were told, when growing up.

DracheimFlug #18 Posted 29 June 2017 - 12:47 PM

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View PostIncandescentGerbil, on 29 June 2017 - 12:41 PM, said:

The performance of Russian tanks in this game relative to British is what you get when developers are raised on a diet of Soviet propaganda. They probably still believe the edited they were told, when growing up.

 

Be fair. The assumption that Soviet tanks are bad is based in part on western propaganda. Neither side's original up-to-date tanks have gone head to head, only surplus or 'export' versions.

Tigerfish_Torpedo #19 Posted 29 June 2017 - 01:09 PM

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Actually, I disagree that the 7/1 or AX needs any form of buff. I'm a mediocre player, and those two tanks serve my play style really well - even I can pull off games with 3-4k of damage. If they were buffed, I fear they would be overpowered.



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View PostTigerfish_Torpedo, on 29 June 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Actually, I disagree that the 7/1 or AX needs any form of buff. I'm a mediocre player, and those two tanks serve my play style really well - even I can pull off games with 3-4k of damage. If they were buffed, I fear they would be overpowered.

 

Thats why they are used in competitive play :sceptic:




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