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Matchmaking in 9.19.1 and the Road Ahead


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Community #1 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:02 PM

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Thanks to your feedback, the matchmaker receives a set of improvements: arty returns to Platoons, and more.

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chuao #2 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:08 PM

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GJ WG. You are the best. Love you.

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0b3rst #3 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:10 PM

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*thumbs up* :)

tripplea #4 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:11 PM

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What about the t8 problem being constantly in t10 battles, last week I played over 100 games in t8's only 3 games were not t10 games 1 was a t9 and the other 2 were all t8, 

 

what are you doing about that?


Edited by tripplea, 28 June 2017 - 03:12 PM.


squishy008 #5 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:12 PM

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just make it +1 -1 for gods sake

Neyaru #6 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:16 PM

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 Every 3/5/7 battle at the top of the list makes you a key player on the team, giving you a real opportunity to lead the team to victory [...]

 

I can't agree. There is an abysm between a VIII tank and its IX counterpart. Every tier IX have access to a higher tier gun that is fitted to fight tier X tanks, what does not happen on lower tiers. Playing against IX or X for me is the same thing.

 

T95 and T110E3: any considerable difference? I even think T95's armor is better.

Mauschen vs Maus / Type 4 vs Type 5 Heavy: basically the same tanks with better armor and HP.

 

Now compare T32 to M103, Caernarvon to Conqueror, etc. 



Arlique #7 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:16 PM

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Good step in the right direction. Now please fix tier 8 because when i try to make money im 8 out of 10 matches thrown into tier 10 wich is demotivating me to play tier 8s in the first place as it annoys me.

wolfman292 #8 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:16 PM

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I have a feeling it is going to be here we go again. The community says one thing and WG does something totally different.

WG if you can't handle the development of the game yourselves then give it to a company that actually know how to.



LordMatrix_ #9 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:19 PM

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It's like you haven't taken the feedback from the comments on your previous Matchmaking news announcement at all. A lot of people would like to see 0-5-10 or 0-0-10 to be the primary/priority template. 3-5-7 makes tanks below tier 9 and 10 less enjoyable. 3-5-7 template should be only used as a last resort. 0-0-10 template also makes easier to balance tanks and premium ammo. You can then actually have a strategy or rules of thumb to balancing the tanks, like a medium tank should never be able to pen heavy tank frontally, except for 1 weak spot, etc, because you know exactly what medium tanks a heavy tank will see. Also why must average players lose credits when playing high tier tanks without premium account?

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ElAtaque #10 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:36 PM

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Wow, that escaleted quickly...

 

In a little more than two days you gathered eleven (!) pages of mostly negative feedback on 3-5-7 (in here: http://forum.worldof...ns-and-answers/ ).

And today you start your sermon with the following statement:

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Reading the hundreds of pages of discussion and feedback on the improved matchmaker convinced us that the template-based algorithm does its job of balancing the speed of matching versus the quality of matches. Every 3/5/7 battle at the top of the list makes you a key player on the team, giving you a real opportunity to lead the team to victory, which is equal parts difficult and rewarding. [...] Finally, many of you reported that gameplay on a number of maps has changed, bringing an extra thrill to the process and with it—a chance to rediscover familiar locations, devising new tactics.

The 3/5/7 template serves its purpose of allowing every tanker to contribute in battle. You always get comparable opposition, regardless of whether you’re placed at the top, middle, or bottom of the list. Remember the less-than-desirable scenario of playing Tier VIII and getting matched against Tier X? Now think how it feels in the game as it stands today.  [...]

 

It is blatantly obvious that you still give a damn about any feedback given in here, because the above mentioned statement (aka "News" of today) is little more but a pre-approved and long prepared article on MM after 9.18, praising your improvements. So much for your statement on Tankfest 2017, stating that "you understood" and would try to improve communication with players...


Edited by ElAtaque, 28 June 2017 - 03:38 PM.


Rosetta_and_Philae #11 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:40 PM

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So it is the responsibility of the higher tiers in your team to take on the opposing higher tiers yes? 

Napad24356 #12 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:44 PM

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When can we expect new patch on live server?

Psticide #13 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:47 PM

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all this talking, so little walking ... how many patches now u said the map selection is fixed and u dont get same maps n stuff, yet i keep getting same map and side and same mode 3-4 times in less then 15 battles ...  these updates are like messages in my spam folder ... all blablabla,   its statisticly more likely for me to win the lottery then what the map selecter is giving me ... 

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anonym_MSqPBzxRtsaO #14 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:50 PM

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Seems that WG isn't aware of the power gap between Tier 8 and Tier 9-10.

Like, sure let's make the 3-5-7 formula the standard model, let's play Tier 8 and be fodder, much fun will be had. :harp:

battleofbacon #15 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:54 PM

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Next part of lies. GG WG

ApocalypseSquad #16 Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:57 PM

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Whilst I think that the mm changes have worked out pretty well (accepting that there is still some tuning to be done), am I the only one who misses some of the asymmetry in the original mm?  Every game (generalising) feels pretty much the same these days.  I used to like the occasional; "Heavies vs Meds" matchup (or whatever).  Sure, sometimes you would be on the wrong side (and that is map dependent), but I liked the variety and it all evens out in the long term.  That seems to be gone now...

 

 

 

Appreciate I might be in a minority here, but thought it worth saying.

 

Best wishes, all, see you out there...



juicyfruity #17 Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:00 PM

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Once again you've completely ignored the community. Maybe we should all ask for the exact opposite of what we want and then we might make some progress.

 

I really do hope premium tier 8 sales take a dive.



1_doctor_death_1 #18 Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:16 PM

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GG wg just dont Edited this up :P

Edited by Asklepi0s, 29 June 2017 - 12:58 PM.
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ApocalypseSquad #19 Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:18 PM

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Looks like I am the only one who doesn't care where I am in the tier order either.  Are there really that many people unable to enjoy the game unless they are stomping over weaker tanks?

CitOijen #20 Posted 28 June 2017 - 04:19 PM

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Never read such a heap of [edited]as in this article. Trump could learn from this...




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