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Achibot #1 Posted 30 June 2017 - 01:39 AM

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The purpose of this thread is both to inform players as to the easiest way to check their MM spread as well as collect verifiable information by means of statistics backed up by their associated Export files. Discussion of this topic without providing your own statistical sample is discouraged, there are many other topics more suited to such posts.

 

Requirements:

Replay files covering the relevant period.

WoT Replay Analyser by AimDrol.

 

Method:

1) Install WoT Replay Analyser.

 

2) Point it at the folder containing your replay files and wait for the import to complete.

 

3) Next we must set the appropriate filters:

 

4) Set the "Time From" field to a sensible value, for 9.19 I use 31/05/2017, based on the date of my first replay file created for this version:

 

5) Next you should set a Tier filter, presumably Tier 8 in this case. Click the "Apply filter" button and then return to the main "Replays" tab:

 

6) Click "Ctrl+A" to select all of your filtered replays and then "Ctrl+S" to call up the "Stats" report; now click on "Map":

 

7) From here you want to select "Matchmaking" and scroll down to the "Global" stats:

 

In my stats we can see that of 128 games with T8 tanks in 9.19: 56 were T10 max, 49 were T9 max and 30 were T8 max but only 19 of those games included T6 tanks.

 

In simple terms then, less than 1/4 of my T8 matches had me as top tier and just over half of those games had T6 tanks.

 

Edit: Assuming this post generates sufficent interest we can collect the relevant Export files in a centralised location. Then we can pretend WG will care if we submit them as a group. Positive thinking is key here.


Edited by Achibot, 30 June 2017 - 01:52 AM.


_EXODUZ_ #2 Posted 30 June 2017 - 02:41 AM

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Looks ok to me.



Achibot #3 Posted 30 June 2017 - 02:46 AM

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6% of games at T8 that included T6 tanks? I suppose if I was playing at your level I might not notice it all that much either but at the end of the day it's likely the fortitude of the average T8 Cash Tank buyer (and not you or me) that will decide WGs attitude to this. If sales are unaffected I can't see why they would intervene but I'm just not thinking the average Joe Bob would find the above sample "ok" for their 40 quids.

_EXODUZ_ #4 Posted 30 June 2017 - 03:00 AM

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View PostAchibot, on 30 June 2017 - 02:46 AM, said:

6% of games at T8 that included T6 tanks? I suppose if I was playing at your level I might not notice it all that much either but at the end of the day it's likely the fortitude of the average T8 Cash Tank buyer (and not you or me) that will decide WGs attitude to this. If sales are unaffected I can't see why they would intervene but I'm just not thinking the average Joe Bob would find the above sample "ok" for their 40 quids.

 

All of these 400 games were played in M41 GF. At first, it was fun to abuse T6 tanks, but it felt wrong because it was too easy or I had to deal with mindless yolo that happens among T6 players. So I do like seeing T10 tanks in my battles when I play T8. More HP = more damage for me. After all, 85% of my games had other T8's to shoot at.

SovietBias #5 Posted 30 June 2017 - 04:02 AM

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My contribution:

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Edit: Excellent post OP. I had forgotten about this tool and now I won't delete replays anymore. I need to investigate if there is any possibility to obtain complete replays when you exit the battle early. 

 

A big thank you to Aim_Drol for making this tool.


Edited by SovietBias, 01 July 2017 - 12:27 AM.


Sfinski #6 Posted 30 June 2017 - 05:52 AM

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Phun eh?


Edited by Sfinski, 30 June 2017 - 05:54 AM.


iztok #7 Posted 30 June 2017 - 06:08 AM

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Hi!

My contribution: battle tiers of battles with my ScorpG, no platooning. All data collected after "improved" MM.

 

10-9-8  119
9-8      52
9-8-7    59
8        14
8-7       5
8-7-6    81

Sum     320

 

BR, Iztok


Edited by iztok, 30 June 2017 - 06:09 AM.


the_Haba #8 Posted 30 June 2017 - 07:02 AM

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The only playable T8 tank at the moment is Skorpion G.

 

The limited MM T8's are absolutely no fun to play. Try making credits with WZ-111 or FCM with all the Defenders and Chrysler G's running around.

 

But hey, keep buying those premium tonks.



SABAOTH #9 Posted 30 June 2017 - 08:05 AM

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View Postthe_Haba, on 30 June 2017 - 07:02 AM, said:

The only playable T8 tank at the moment is Skorpion G.

 

The limited MM T8's are absolutely no fun to play. Try making credits with WZ-111 or FCM with all the Defenders and Chrysler G's running around.

 

But hey, keep buying those premium tonks.

 

I think they did some fix to the Match Maker, it is not anymore as bad as before for tier 8.

eldrak #10 Posted 30 June 2017 - 09:01 AM

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You're aware that in an "ideal" world with 3-5-7 matchmaker with similar amount of players on all tiers and an infinite amount of tiers you would only be top tier in 1/5 of your games?

 

For example iztok here seems to be top tier way way more than he should.


Edited by eldrak, 30 June 2017 - 10:22 AM.


Sfinski #11 Posted 30 June 2017 - 09:02 AM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 30 June 2017 - 08:05 AM, said:

 

I think they did some fix to the Match Maker, it is not anymore as bad as before for tier 8.

 

Sure was during this week. 



Achibot #12 Posted 30 June 2017 - 02:28 PM

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Interesting start, we'll need a chunk more data to build a decent sample though.

Dragonlordcv #13 Posted 30 June 2017 - 02:43 PM

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View PostSABAOTH, on 30 June 2017 - 07:05 AM, said:

 

I think they did some fix to the Match Maker, it is not anymore as bad as before for tier 8.

 

Nope nothing changed

Kozzy #14 Posted 30 June 2017 - 03:02 PM

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View PostAchibot, on 30 June 2017 - 12:39 AM, said:

The purpose of this thread is both to inform players as to the easiest way to check their MM spread as well as collect verifiable information by means of statistics backed up by their associated Export files. Discussion of this topic without providing your own statistical sample is discouraged, there are many other topics more suited to such posts...

 

 

FFS dude, we've already been through this!  This forum does NOT deal in fact or statistical analysis.  Only hearsay, biased opinion, gut-feelings and tinfoil-hat theories.  Take your brain out and get on board with the tomatoes!



THE_JACK_OF_HEARTS #15 Posted 30 June 2017 - 03:02 PM

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Tier 8 is fine, you pansys lol..

CptBarney #16 Posted 30 June 2017 - 10:06 PM

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Soo much for data gathering. I will share my own stats tommorrow i will simply play around 5-10 games in all of my tier 8s if possible. That and on sunday.

Zhul87 #17 Posted 02 July 2017 - 05:10 PM

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Meanwhile in T8 arti land:



Rato_Black_Baron #18 Posted 04 July 2017 - 01:11 PM

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With 12 battles in 9.18 + 69 b in 9.19 = 81 b
Ranging from tier III to IX (average tier 5,89), I've fought:
35 tanks (2,88%) tier -2
178 tanks (14,65%) tier -1
735 tanks (60,49%) tier 0
225 tanks (18,52%) tier +1
42 tanks (3,46%) tier +2
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For the 29 battles tier VIII (8 with T26E4) I fought:
21 tanks (4,83%) tier -2
50 tanks (11,49%) tier -1
256 tanks (58,85%) tier 0
90 tanks (20,69%) tier +1
18 tanks (4,14%) tier +2
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For now with just a small sample of battles, I'm fine with the new MM.
Boring but fine. I miss being bottom tier in a 14/0/1 setup...:trollface:
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My problem with WoT at the moment is with the balance.
The more OP tanks => the less variability in battles.
More importance of armour and gold ammo => less variability in tactics.
Better premiums than their counterparts => less reasons to grind standard lines.
And I don't grind in the carrousel of the OP tank of the moment. So less battles played.

Aikl #19 Posted 04 July 2017 - 03:05 PM

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View PostAchibot, on 30 June 2017 - 12:39 AM, said:

(...)

 

 

Team Battles show up unless you filter out 'Attack/Defense'... what about Stronghold battles? Not applicable in my case, but it would still skew results if a large share of T8 gameplay is there.

 

Here's mine, low sample size. Looks plenty fair to me! :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



Goyon #20 Posted 28 July 2017 - 11:51 PM

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New matchmaking

here are some files from the old matchmaking:

 

 

Only from 2017, no platoons and no pref. matchmaking tanks.

 

The chance of being  top tier is less than half. :facepalm:







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