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Noivilbo #1 Posted 01 July 2017 - 03:11 PM

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I've played a lot of battles with it, It just gets spotted too easily without even firing. No matter if have chocolate, BiA and full camo skills. Penetrated by everything and everywhere... 

 

It's the most retarded rework tank I've seen in this game and it saddens me that I have to sell it. 

 

Good job wargaming

 

P.S: I'll wait for the "you have to peek and shoot" claimers to come forward now and teach me how to play a stupid tank (It's on par of how useless it is to a Foch 155 - Though I believe Foch 155 is slightly better)

 

Also, the aiming time is stated 1.5sec down to 1.29sec with skills but timed with a stopwatch the aiming time is 2.8seconds!! Go figure I guess :)


Edited by Noivilbo, 01 July 2017 - 03:13 PM.


WindSplitter1 #2 Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:29 PM

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Aiming time isn't the complete time it takes for the reticle to fully aim down. it's either half or 2/3 (don't remember which) - Go figure I guess.

 

I believe this is another case of "gitgudism", but wait for another doctor for the differential diagnosis.



Enforcer1975 #3 Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:50 PM

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Replay of the spots you mentioned? Sure you are going to the right spots? Really hate it when i see a Grille in the enemy team with all the corridors around as too many TDs on a map in general tend to kill fluid gameplay.
Also consumables won't give extra armor unless they are as hard as steel but then i would advice not to eat them. Also what do you mean with peek and shoot? Are you sidescraping behind corners on city maps?

Edited by Enforcer1975, 01 July 2017 - 06:51 PM.


AC130Pilot #4 Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:53 PM

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Is AMX 50 Foch (155) (a French tier 10 tank destroyer) better than Grille (a German tier 5 self-propelled gun)? May be, but I'm not certain...


On a serious note though, isn't Grille 15 still overpowered (does it feel like it) when compared to other tier 10 TDs? Asking everyone, not just the OP.



MacD3rpington #5 Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:54 PM

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Yes they have butchered the Grille pretty much. It drives like it did with a dead driver before, and the aimtime and bloom is horrible even with a 5 perk crew. 

Nerfing the hell ot of traverse speed and reverse speed and engine power, put this TD to the bottom of the T10 TDs.

it has horrible camo, paper armor, slow traverse and aimtime even the turret is limited. There is no real reason to play this tank.



JuliusCheddar #6 Posted 01 July 2017 - 06:56 PM

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Ye, it was in this awkward state where it was slightly too good but needed a subtle nerf, not a hammer. Problem is, WG can only use hammer.

MacD3rpington #7 Posted 01 July 2017 - 07:04 PM

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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 01 July 2017 - 06:56 PM, said:

Ye, it was in this awkward state where it was slightly too good but needed a subtle nerf, not a hammer. Problem is, WG can only use hammer.

 

Since it's a "Nazi" tank and it was replacing the WT, it was still good and a lot of players on the rusky server got pretty upset I guess.

Look at the current rusky medium buff and nerfing of the batchat or what they did to the T50.


Edited by MacD3rpington, 01 July 2017 - 07:07 PM.


JuliusCheddar #8 Posted 01 July 2017 - 07:13 PM

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View PostMacD3rpington, on 01 July 2017 - 07:04 PM, said:

 

Since it's a "Nazi" tank and it was replacing the WT, it was still good and a lot of players on the rusky server got pretty upset I guess.

Look at the current rusky medium buff and nerfing of the batchat or what they did to the T50.

 

What they did to the t50?

Also, 140 deserved a buff, it got nerfed when changed to HD quality.

T54 buff doesn't make sense, but many things in wot don't.

And t44 and mod1 were underpowered as all hell and I feel the buff is not enough.



Bitter_Kipper #9 Posted 01 July 2017 - 07:25 PM

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Grille just needed the speed taken away really. Its ability to pop up fire and disappear before other tanks had a chance to aim was its problem, but as usual WG threw all the toys out the pram. 

Foch 155 needed speed reduction and a weakspot - Da comrade we take away engine, accuracy, armour den tenk belanced. 

Japanese tanks problem was no weak points (modeled) and arty guns - Okay we slow them down and change accuracy No touch armour it is not problem. We make new guns for Higher Tiers Da belance. 


​Nerf department appears to be occupied by three years olds. The bad men are criticising our work well we take away all the toys bwah bwah bwah.






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