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SirDixie #41 Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:22 PM

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Some people don't take things as seriously as you do. Some people don't care if they're terrible. Sure, it's annoying at times when your top tier heavy is hiding at A0 (other useless locations are available) "sniping" but does it actually matter? The world keeps on turning and we all carry on. I've been annoyed in game hundreds of times, on a few dozen occassions I've still been annoyed after the battle ended. On a few occasions I've felt the need to send a PM to the guilty party (usually for blocking my retreat and getting me killed), but I've never felt that the game was so serious that I needed to leave the game, log onto the forum, start a topic and complain about how terrible people are. It's a game, relax, you might live longer.

 

There's also the fact that not everyone realises they're bad. But people are gonna throw abuse around in the chat channel, call them noob and so on. In that situation is it any wonder they ignore the "expert" advice that is being freely dispensed? I'm certainly not going to pay any attention to someone screaming OMG noob, get cancer why you no rush IS-3!?!?!?!? from some salty dead guy. If you want people to actually pay attention to your sagacious words then being a [edited]about it isn't going to help.

Speaking from experience, there's also the fact that sometimes, just sometimes I might be far better than you* in a particular tank and have a better idea how to play it.

 

*a generic you. Not aimed at any one person.



anonym_YNch2j0j5oJ9 #42 Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:32 PM

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I never once claimed to be a great player, just stating that a huge amount of people in this game sucks big time.. so why aren't i allowed to create this thread? I was seriously wondering why people are bad, thats it

SirDixie #43 Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:40 PM

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Because they don't care that much about a game and have more important things to be worrying about.

 

 

P.S. I'm not saying you can't raise a forum topic about it. Just that you shouldn't, it isn't worth the effort.


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View PostJunglist_, on 02 July 2017 - 02:13 PM, said:

 

Please more worthless excuses. Platooning means less damage for yourself. Terrible teams is a garbage players excuse. In last 1k battles you played more than 100 with tier 10s not so long ago eh?

And what would I expect? Well I don't know maybe several 3 marked tier 10s or 9s since youre saying that youre definitely better than 95% of WoT playerbase.

Or on what metric are basing that?

 

Platoons make people do better scores because you can actually trust them to help you... and some players are bad and just buy people to 3 mark tier 10s, so marks doesn't mean much in this game, and players like QB is in the top 0,1% of players in this game yet he doesn't have a lot of tier 9-10s with 3 marks so..... 

View PostStat_Padder, on 02 July 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

 

8k ---> 51% & 26% survival rate? we can all learn from your fine example.

 

Maybe because i ruined my stats for THOUSANDS of battles? And don't act like such a good player, you are extremely bad.. your only high tier tanks has 600 wn8 and 45% winrate, so yeah have fun having 80% winrate while only playing tier 3 tanks.. how pathetic lol

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View PostSirDixie, on 02 July 2017 - 04:40 PM, said:

Because they don't care that much about a game and have more important things to be worrying about.

 

 

P.S. I'm not saying you can't raise a forum topic about it. Just that you shouldn't, it isn't worth the effort.

 

I can understand that.. but that applies to A LOT of great players also.. many 2k-3k wn8 players have real lives that are more important, but they still perform good in WoT.. i think WoT performance is IQ based. I raised a topic to maybe find out from the bad players themselves why they are so stubborn to become better, or maybe a good player know's wth :P

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View PostTerblanche77, on 02 July 2017 - 03:32 PM, said:

I never once claimed to be a great player, just stating that a huge amount of people in this game sucks big time.. so why aren't i allowed to create this thread? I was seriously wondering why people are bad, thats it

 

I feel your pain, and I am one of those you speak of.

In my defence, I am coming up to 72 years, played the game for a couple of years, have done about 14K battles, WN8 - 510 (bad player) and according to XVM I have progressed to being 'Orange', so I know that I am a BAD PERSON/PLAYER.

But I have good games, and a lot of bad games, especially when my team gets creamed within a few minutes.

Also I am in a very good clan, and they do not judge me........at least openly, and may grit their teeth quietly when I platoon with some.........but they are a pleasure to play with, which gives me some confidence.

 

So although I don't think I have seen you in any of the battles, because no doubt you would have pointed out the error of my ways, and perhaps hurled a bit of abuse at me, in game, or via PM afterwards, I just pick a favourite tank/TD, press 'battle' and........hope for the best.

 But I rarely get shouted at in game, or receive a kranky message afterwards advising me that I would be better off playing Tetris or something.

However, I will quite often message a player after the game to congratulate them on how well they did, win or lose. Some will reply with 'Thanks' and others just ignore my message. :)

 So not everyone in the game is young, have nimble fingers and quick reflexes, and have learnt every aspect of the game, so I am sorry if people like me spoil your games, but WG gets a fair share of my Pension, so let me play in peace.

 

I like to play TD's so I 'kemp bush' a fair bit....But I guess I do understand a bit that you take the game seriously, and have learnt to play, and there are a few valid points you made in your original post, on where players go, especially the beach on the D-Day map.

 

But this sort of judgement of players not as good as you, never mind how many battles they have played (you no doubt will look me up and have a nervous breakdown at my 'stats;), but this has been going on since my days of playing online games since about the year 2000 (probably when you were born) - UT99 (the whole series, and firstly on dial up) BF2/BF3 for examples, and there are always players who complain about others who are not that good.

I have time on my hands these days, so I like to fire up WoT and play a few games in the evenings for a bit of fun, since I am paying for it. :)

 

Happy days mate..

 


Edited by Trillock1945, 02 July 2017 - 05:10 PM.


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View PostTerblanche77, on 02 July 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

Quote :- extremely bad,,how pathetic lol

 

Everyone has good days and bad days in World Of Tanks most have the latter all the time. 

 


Edited by Stat_Padder, 02 July 2017 - 05:14 PM.


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View PostTerblanche77, on 02 July 2017 - 03:50 PM, said:

Platoons make people do better scores because you can actually trust them to help you... and some players are bad and just buy people to 3 mark tier 10s, so marks doesn't mean much in this game, and players like QB is in the top 0,1% of players in this game yet he doesn't have a lot of tier 9-10s with 3 marks so..... 

 

 

So more excuses why high average damage on t10s and 3 marks doesnt matter but still havent said why do you think youre DEFINITELY better than 95%?



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View PostTerblanche77, on 02 July 2017 - 11:30 AM, said:

I can understand when 12 year olds suck at this game, their brain haven't fully developed yet.. 

But all these players with 20k→100k+ games that still haven't got a clue how to play this game.. wtf? Like seriously, ive been playing it a year and know a lot more than 99% of players.. 

people who camp on malinovka

people who camp on prokorovka (even when there's no arty's)

people who camp... anywhere

Camping loses games, sniping loses games a lot more than it actually wins games (unless you are a TD, but if u suck then u also lose the games)

Lets start with malinovka, that hill wins the game, yet 80% of the team camps the rocks at base.

Lakeville, light tanks spotting the valley? really? 

Mountain pass north spawn, lights rushing mid to spot south? You die 99% of the time.

Overlord people go beach?? Instant lose

Erlenberg, north goes line 2, south goes line 9, yet people drown, but you do realise that if the south spawn actually pushes the line 2 line SMARTLY, it means that the team wins, usually that means that u have to be in a platoon so u can push it together (just the other day me and a friend pushed with our meds the 2 line from south spawn, won the entire flank and game cuz of that)

And a LOT of other maps as well...

If you do stupid things like going beach on Overlord, like 3-4 times and notice that you never win the game, why would you continue to do the same mistake over and over and over and over and over again? After 20k games i would really expect people to have overall 2k wn8, anything less than that means they can't play the game.. really wish i could actually modify my XVM that turns a certain amount of battles by someone Red if their wn8 isnt a certain amount..

Already modified my XVM colours making 0-1100 wn8 as red, and 1100-1300 orange, but hell, when i see pople with 20k games and 1310 wn8 they shouldn't be yellow, they should be 100% red..

 

So why can't people learn how the game works? Everyone has access to the same Youtubers, streamers, game, tactics, maps, tanks, everything.. yet people can't learn how the game works.. like those people who make the most pathetic mistakes (just 1 example: suicide spotting) and then they type in chat "fk u idiot team" for the entire game spamming chat because THEY messed up..

Why do people continue to suck? Why? Literally the only thing I can think of is that people are (literally) mentally ill, and considering that that means that 95% of WoT players are mentally ill... then my last small hope for humankind just died..

 

Let me give you a heads up on life - it's not only this game those people suck at. They suck at almost everything. 

 

I have actually met people who cannot talk and play at the same time! I mean, not talking about serious multi-tasking here, but yeah, many such people exist as well.

 

Don't have too much expectations from people, most are average and below average, and if you are above average at what you do (or generally) this will frustrate the hell out of you. So, find people similar to you (hence the "clan" function) and do some seal clubbing, or when you are up to the challenge play again some clan that contains above average people. In my opinion, this is the best recipe.



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View PostTerblanche77, on 02 July 2017 - 03:53 PM, said:

 i think WoT performance is IQ based. 

 

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Of all the times for Bulldog to take a year off from the forum.



AC130Pilot #51 Posted 02 July 2017 - 05:57 PM

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Regarding only the game World of Tanks, not my life. Every time I want to try hard and carry the battle (not saying I don't) I take into account many aspects such as team balance, communication, behaviour, effort, speed at which allies get destroyed, etc. which usually are not pleasing... Then I remember that this is just a game, and I'd better relax. So I do.




RockyRoller #52 Posted 02 July 2017 - 06:02 PM

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I remember the argument regarding football and why don't professional teams use the long ball attack when statistically it wins more often. The answer is the same, the team default is winmax, ie maximise the strategies that makes them lose the least. In WoT that playing like QuickBaby in his videos. That is what is wrong in WoT, everyone's a QB.

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 02 July 2017 - 04:57 PM, said:

Regarding only the game World of Tanks, not my life. Every time I want to try hard and carry the battle (not saying I don't) I take into account many aspects such as team balance, communication, behaviour, effort, speed at which allies get destroyed, etc. which usually are not pleasing... Then I remember that this is just a game, and I'd better relax. So I do.


 

Exactly, who really cares about being purple in a stupid pixel game? Reserve your efforts and energy to winning at stuff that matters :)

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How many maps are there still left that require good camo usage? How many premium tanks have they introduced lately that make money off of spotting? How many prem tanks have they lately introduced with below average pen or low gold pen for that matter? 

 

O one hand it's a free to play game, so that already draws a different, less involved crowd than say an e-sports game like counterstrike. Then you have WG dumbing down the game to pander to the lowest common denominator at every corner on the other hand. And then to boot you have WGs utter lack of transparency to the point where you have to look up certain stats on third party websites to even know they exist.

 

It's really not that hard to see why a lot of people are absolute trash at the game. What's more worrying is how many of them will be actively trying to ruin your game for not being as ignorant as them though. There's some serious tall-poppy-syndrome going on in randoms at times.



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View PostTrillock1945, on 02 July 2017 - 04:56 PM, said:

I feel your pain, and I am one of those you speak of.

In my defence, I am coming up to 72 years, played the game for a couple of years, have done about 14K battles, WN8 - 510 (bad player) and according to XVM I have progressed to being 'Orange', so I know that I am a BAD PERSON/PLAYER.

But I have good games, and a lot of bad games, especially when my team gets creamed within a few minutes.

Also I am in a very good clan, and they do not judge me........at least openly, and may grit their teeth quietly when I platoon with some.........but they are a pleasure to play with, which gives me some confidence.

 

So although I don't think I have seen you in any of the battles, because no doubt you would have pointed out the error of my ways, and perhaps hurled a bit of abuse at me, in game, or via PM afterwards, I just pick a favourite tank/TD, press 'battle' and........hope for the best.

 But I rarely get shouted at in game, or receive a kranky message afterwards advising me that I would be better off playing Tetris or something.

However, I will quite often message a player after the game to congratulate them on how well they did, win or lose. Some will reply with 'Thanks' and others just ignore my message. :)

 So not everyone in the game is young, have nimble fingers and quick reflexes, and have learnt every aspect of the game, so I am sorry if people like me spoil your games, but WG gets a fair share of my Pension, so let me play in peace.

 

I like to play TD's so I 'kemp bush' a fair bit....But I guess I do understand a bit that you take the game seriously, and have learnt to play, and there are a few valid points you made in your original post, on where players go, especially the beach on the D-Day map.

 

Well your clan is better than you, but they definitely aren't great players, and if u are 70+ years old I can understand why you might not be as good as i wish teammates would be, your reflexes would be quite a lot slower, im not a doctor or a specialist so i can't make predictions, and you aren't a bad person :P and orange yeah it depends what xvm you use, for example i actually modded my xvm colours for showing red colour 0→1200, and orange 1200→1300, 1300→1500 yellow, 1500→2180 green, 2180→2880 blue, and 2880+ purple, i use xvm to see if i can trust a teammate, because really i dont see much of a difference between 100 wn8, 200, 300, and even 900, and i won't make risky moves that could backfire to save a red teammate, but if the teammate is a good player i would help them since it will help the team more, and camping with TDs is normal, unless you play certain TDs like T30 and E4, certain TDs u are supposed to camp bush, others nah.

When a player is bad, and they admit it.. i will get over it, but when a really bad player suicides and blames the team and and and.. then it really frustrates me, but as far as i can see, your TDs are all camping ones so thats normal, and yeah im guilty at abusing people in chat, not at tier 1-7 though, because this is new players and i can understand why they are bad, but when a OP tank like Maus or Type5 goes vs tier 8 tanks and they camp and dont even know how to shoot their guns.. i go nuts, ive never PM'ed anyone after battle unless they shot me in that round, i've never insulted someone's parents/family and wished they would die.. people who do that is really pathetic..  i usually call people $h1t and [edited], and dont worry when some people dont respond to your "gg'' pm's after a round, many people have PM's turned off in their settings

View Postm1x_angelico, on 02 July 2017 - 05:44 PM, said:

 

Let me give you a heads up on life - it's not only this game those people suck at. They suck at almost everything. 

 

I have actually met people who cannot talk and play at the same time! I mean, not talking about serious multi-tasking here, but yeah, many such people exist as well.

 

Don't have too much expectations from people, most are average and below average, and if you are above average at what you do (or generally) this will frustrate the hell out of you. So, find people similar to you (hence the "clan" function) and do some seal clubbing, or when you are up to the challenge play again some clan that contains above average people. In my opinion, this is the best recipe.

Yeah.. that's the thing.. I keep forgetting to NOT expect anything from people.. and i don't really like clans tbh, im in a really awkward position. My recent stats might be good enough but because of my overall stats.. no good clans want me, only the really bad clans and average clans want me, and tbh i don't really like to do SH's, CW's etc etc.. but I have good friends that i can platoon with, so i dont really need a clan, did a 3 man platoon today and we won 17/25 games i think (tier 6-9 games), al though some rounds i really sucked, got angry at myself. i dont join clans that actually want me since it means i would be one of the best players in the clan, i would prefer to be the worst so i could improve more, thats why i like the platoons with friends though... they are really good and friendly

P.S. dont look my stats the past 24 hours since they suck big time :| well now that i mentioned this.. everyone will, ah well too lazy to backspace this now.


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View Postm1x_angelico, on 02 July 2017 - 04:44 PM, said:

 most are average and below average, 

 

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The OP seems to have got the title of the thread wrong. It should be I can't understand how people can be different to me.

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Dear Terblanche77

"Well your clan is better than you, but they definitely aren't great players, and if u are 70+ years old I can understand why you might not be as good as i wish teammates would be"

"When a player is bad, and they admit it.. i will get over it".

Just a couple of quotes, from you postings.

You are indeed a very special person player.

Regards

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Well young snowflake, you say "Well your clan is better than you, but they definitely aren't great players...." but I will have you know we have many blue, and greens in our clan, who enjoy our style of play, without their heads swelling and exploding, because they are better than many of us, which makes us a decent clan, and many wish to join us. They may leave for another clan at some point, but at least they have some fun during their time.

By the way, with your XVM what colour do you display, have you promoted yourself purple yet ? :trollface:

 

From looking at many posts in the forum, there seem to be a few like you, who look down on people who are not brilliant at the game, and treat it as a past time to play for an hour or so to pass some time.

It seems that some want rid of 'Orange' players like myself, because I ruin their games.

Perhaps they would like us to pass an exam when starting off in the game, so see if we would qualify to play a 'free to play' game ?

 

Still, you say that you are 17 years old, and appear to be good at playing tanks, well bully for you, I just hope you put as much effort when you get a job, as there is more to life than telling others that you are brilliant, and many are not, and so should not play in 'your' game.



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View PostTerblanche77, on 02 July 2017 - 10:30 AM, said:

I can understand when 12 year olds suck at this game, their brain haven't fully developed yet.. 

But all these players with 20k→100k+ games that still haven't got a clue how to play this game.. wtf? Like seriously, ive been playing it a year and know a lot more than 99% of players.. 

people who camp on malinovka

people who camp on prokorovka (even when there's no arty's)

people who camp... anywhere

Camping loses games, sniping loses games a lot more than it actually wins games (unless you are a TD, but if u suck then u also lose the games)

Lets start with malinovka, that hill wins the game, yet 80% of the team camps the rocks at base.

Lakeville, light tanks spotting the valley? really? 

Mountain pass north spawn, lights rushing mid to spot south? You die 99% of the time.

Overlord people go beach?? Instant lose

Erlenberg, north goes line 2, south goes line 9, yet people drown, but you do realise that if the south spawn actually pushes the line 2 line SMARTLY, it means that the team wins, usually that means that u have to be in a platoon so u can push it together (just the other day me and a friend pushed with our meds the 2 line from south spawn, won the entire flank and game cuz of that)

And a LOT of other maps as well...

If you do stupid things like going beach on Overlord, like 3-4 times and notice that you never win the game, why would you continue to do the same mistake over and over and over and over and over again? After 20k games i would really expect people to have overall 2k wn8, anything less than that means they can't play the game.. really wish i could actually modify my XVM that turns a certain amount of battles by someone Red if their wn8 isnt a certain amount..

Already modified my XVM colours making 0-1100 wn8 as red, and 1100-1300 orange, but hell, when i see pople with 20k games and 1310 wn8 they shouldn't be yellow, they should be 100% red..

 

So why can't people learn how the game works? Everyone has access to the same Youtubers, streamers, game, tactics, maps, tanks, everything.. yet people can't learn how the game works.. like those people who make the most pathetic mistakes (just 1 example: suicide spotting) and then they type in chat "fk u idiot team" for the entire game spamming chat because THEY messed up..

Why do people continue to suck? Why? Literally the only thing I can think of is that people are (literally) mentally ill, and considering that that means that 95% of WoT players are mentally ill... then my last small hope for humankind just died..

 

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