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Bucifel #1 Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:33 PM

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ok, im full of this crap

if this is not p2w means this is NOT WOT !

:facepalm:

 

in last 2 years while i played actively i NEVER saw a mision like this for EVERYONE on a F2P game...but now instead of this, i just see how you can get a mission like this if....YOU PAY ??

 

what is this?

 

CW ruined, tournaments ruined, events worst and worst and now this

you get missions with some decent reward ONLY if you buy something??

 

Explain how isnt this P2W WG !

Lies denied !


Edited by Bucifel, 02 July 2017 - 02:39 PM.


Velvet_Underground #2 Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:40 PM

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How exactly is that p2w?

WindSpIitter1 #3 Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:41 PM

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This isn't actually pay to win though. Ingame gold has had its value greatly depreciated since WG isn't putting every prem in the tech tree anymore. Chrysler and defender being better than every t8 heavy is p2w. Someone who bought some gold getting a bit extra if he plays the game actively as well isn't.

Bucifel #4 Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:51 PM

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how?..dont know...maybe...

because you pay for this "reward" ?

because you never see missions like this for everyone in a "f2p" game..?

because they simply introduce paid content in reward system? And of course, you cant get this reward if you dont pay.

 

oh, its just ANOTHER evidence in fact..beter said :) After their stupid prem tanks...now they riun missions too. Next step on WOT downside.

 

theres not about what you get in bundle..its about mission what you get only if you pay.


Edited by Bucifel, 02 July 2017 - 02:53 PM.


Homer_J #5 Posted 02 July 2017 - 02:57 PM

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How is a mission to get what is effectively a discount on your gold purchase pay to win?

 

It's play to win maybe.

 

Or pay to be encouraged to play.

 

But surely if having gold was an advantage then the Fort Knox bundle was much more pay to win than this is.



Bucifel #6 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:00 PM

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View PostHomer_J, on 02 July 2017 - 02:57 PM, said:

 

It's play to win maybe.

and you cant do this if you dont pay ;)

 

so first is Pay to play, then play to win and finally, afther both...you can deduce how its pay to win. ;)



Swoopie #7 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:03 PM

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I still dont understand how that is pay to win... The offer is a nice bonus to those who buy gold and support the game, dont really see a point in your whining.

h4ctor #8 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:03 PM

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how is it pay to win?

 

win what? you dont actually win games,what are you even talking about



Homer_J #9 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:04 PM

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View PostBucifel, on 02 July 2017 - 03:00 PM, said:

and you cant do this if you dont pay ;)

 

so first is Pay to play, then play to win and finally, afther both...you can deduce how its pay to win. ;)

 

By that logic playing for free is freeloading to win.

Bucifel #10 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:06 PM

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View PostSwoopie, on 02 July 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

I still dont understand how that is pay to win... The offer is a nice bonus to those who buy gold and support the game, dont really see a point in your whining.

 

then read again:

"so first is Pay to play, then play to win and finally, afther both...you can deduce how its pay to win"

 

that because they never put missions like this for everyone, so you simply cant win this if you dont pay. and that on a " f2p " game.

 

you simply PAY to win this gold.

if you dont pay you cant win this. Whats so hard?

 

this gold in this mission is a reward...but ONLY if you pay.

A paid reward...how else can be called if not p2w?

 

i never had a problem if they offered something for everyone too in a mission like this. but NO ! thats only for wallets.

:facepalm:

and for others they set missions like TankFest "event" with 1 garage slot reward but requirements of 50k xp, in a specific nation and over a weekend.


Edited by Bucifel, 02 July 2017 - 03:13 PM.


Swoopie #11 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:13 PM

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View PostBucifel, on 02 July 2017 - 04:06 PM, said:

 

then read again:

"so first is Pay to play, then play to win and finally, afther both...you can deduce how its pay to win"

 

that because they never put missions like this for everyone, so you simply cant win this if you dont pay. and that on a " f2p " game.

 

you simply PAY to win this gold.

if you dont pay you cant win this. Whats so hard?

 

this gold in this mission is a reward...but ONLY if you pay.

A paid reward...how else can be called if not p2w?

 

Why should they start giving out free gold? Also if you buy the gold package, it doesn't make you win more... Or if you think it makes you win more, please explain how buying this gold package makes you do it? 

Bucifel #12 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:15 PM

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View PostSwoopie, on 02 July 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

 

Why should they start giving out free gold? Also if you buy the gold package, it doesn't make you win more... Or if you think it makes you win more, please explain how buying this gold package makes you do it? 

 

because they call it a F2P game. Thats why they should offer things like this for everyone. And in a F2P game, yes, we expect free stuff like this...because thats f2p.

I dont say they should offer everything for free...but small rewards like this really should.

and stop confusing things and talk about win rate. Here you win a reward not a game.


Edited by Bucifel, 02 July 2017 - 03:17 PM.


Swoopie #13 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:18 PM

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View PostBucifel, on 02 July 2017 - 04:15 PM, said:

 

because they call it a F2P game. Thats why they should offer things like this for everyone. And in a F2P game, yes, we expect free stuff like this...because thats f2p.

and stop confusing things and talk about win rate. Here you win a reward not a game.

 

So the package is not P2W, maybe you should recheck the definition of that. And you should read up on how game companies operate... What do you think would happen if no one buys gold/premiums and WG just gave out free gold?

Edited by Swoopie, 02 July 2017 - 03:18 PM.


rurkovsky #14 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:18 PM

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Not sure if You trolling or just too dumn to understand what p2w is...

And those servers don't run for free, someone need to buy stuff just so You can play it for free



Bucifel #15 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:27 PM

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View PostSwoopie, on 02 July 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

 

So the package is not P2W, maybe you should recheck the definition of that. And you should read up on how game companies operate... What do you think would happen if no one buys gold/premiums and WG just gave out free gold?

 

ah, sure...so 100 gold in a mission ruin their incomes while they shell thousands of gold in bundles...great understanding mate. ;)

 

View Postrurkovsky, on 02 July 2017 - 03:18 PM, said:

Not sure if You trolling or just too dumn to understand what p2w is...

And those servers don't run for free, someone need to buy stuff just so You can play it for free

 

or you have no idea what they try here and how they make money now and before and how they want to trick you in future ;)

their policy is based now on players like you...wich care about WG income over his own interest and think WG "cant" make money without this and cant run servers.

Tahts why game goes in wrong direction...because they have see a lot of conceptions like this here...and if things are good for them...why not to milk more and more from players? 

 

in a F2P game..remember !

 

*just one question.

why untill 1 year ago we didnt see things like this in game? How then, they run servers and all costs without any problems and offered good events with good rewards to players and now they "cant" ?

 


Edited by Bucifel, 02 July 2017 - 03:32 PM.


tajj7 #16 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:28 PM

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How is this pay to win?

 

It's just play to get discount on something you've already paid for. I suppose they could just give it up front but I presume they thought this more interesting and encourages players to play the game.

 

Struggling to see the win bit?

 

You get x5 missions with some of the more expensive premium tank bundles, and those missions are only available to the person buying the tank. Those are no different and are not pay to win either. 

 

What does gold get you? 

 

  • Premium time
  • Some premium tanks (none of the Op ones)
  • re-train crew quicker
  • demount equipment
  • garage slots

 

All that stuff is save time stuff. 

 

Your argument boils down to you wanting gold for free basically.  Also no free to play game is truly free to play otherwise the game basically wouldn't exist. 

 


Edited by tajj7, 02 July 2017 - 03:31 PM.


Hedgehog1963 #17 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:31 PM

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Rarely seen such a stupid thread.

Sons_Of_Horus #18 Posted 02 July 2017 - 03:33 PM

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View PostBucifel, on 02 July 2017 - 01:33 PM, said:

 

if this is not p2w means this is NOT WOT !

 

P2W

 



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View Posttajj7, on 02 July 2017 - 02:28 PM, said:

How is this pay to win?

I think he's letting his hate for WG get in the way of logic.



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View PostBucifel, on 02 July 2017 - 02:33 PM, said:

 

ok, im full of this crap

 

 

Well, quite. 






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