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Enderman21 #1 Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:46 PM

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From all the tanks in the game, WG decided to eventually buff the tanks from obj. 140's line. And with right. The most neglected nation in the game, the most neglected line from the tech tree. No one likes these meds, because they suck. Even though this month 140 is  top of the three, no one plays these tanks.

 

Now after buffing their armor and cannons you'll have another of many reasons to start grinding this line and another reason to shoot even more gold after encountering 140s and T-54s. 

 

Bravo WG, what a smart decision! 

 

I can't wait to see Milosz in another interview to remind me that: ''oh we do everything possible for balance, we pay attention to feedback, we do everything possible to better the game''. Damn right.

 

More here: https://ritastatusre...tes/#more-41956

 

 



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JuliusCheddar #3 Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:55 PM

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Do you realize 140 got nerfed with HD remodel and now they're basically buffing it back, right? Or Russia bias myth is too stronk? 

Enderman21 #4 Posted 02 July 2017 - 04:58 PM

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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 02 July 2017 - 03:55 PM, said:

Do you realize 140 got nerfed with HD remodel and now they're basically buffing it back, right? Or Russia bias myth is too stronk? 

Only the turret roof was nerfed. Was the frontal armor thickness and side armor thickness nerfed back then?



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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 02 July 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Do you realize 140 got nerfed with HD remodel and now they're basically buffing it back, right? Or Russia bias myth is too stronk? 

 

It got nerfed to the point that it was balanced, and made the T-62A viable as an alternative for different scenarios and playstyles. We do NOT need it back to where it "was"

JuliusCheddar #6 Posted 02 July 2017 - 05:06 PM

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I do believe tier X balance has more serious issues than 140 roof not getting lolpenned by tier 8s

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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 02 July 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Do you realize 140 got nerfed with HD remodel and now they're basically buffing it back, right? Or Russia bias myth is too stronk? 

 

Aren't they giving it the 62a turret? The old 140 turret could get overmatched, this one can't. So it should be a stronger turret than the pre nerf one. 



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View PostHugSeal, on 02 July 2017 - 05:07 PM, said:

 

Aren't they giving it the 62a turret? The old 140 turret could get overmatched, this one can't. So it should be a stronger turret than the pre nerf one. 

Afaik they said "more like" t62a turret, but as always russian translation may mislead us. If it had t62a turret it would indeed be silly. 

Keep in mind 140 still falls apart when hit and fuel tanks are right next to the dynamite storage 


Edited by JuliusCheddar, 02 July 2017 - 05:10 PM.


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140 is actually underperforming slightly. Mostly because the turret is quite easy to triple overmatch now and most maps don't favor it in the slightest. Atm the T-62a is a clearly superior tank. You'd have a point a year ago, but right now the 140 being buffed isn't an issue.

 

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Browarszky #10 Posted 02 July 2017 - 11:02 PM

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Maybe it's what they call counterbalancing?

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View PostHeathLedger_, on 02 July 2017 - 04:53 PM, said:

140 is actually underperforming slightly. Mostly because the turret is quite easy to triple overmatch now and most maps don't favor it in the slightest. Atm the T-62a is a clearly superior tank. You'd have a point a year ago, but right now the 140 being buffed isn't an issue.

 

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err obj140 is better tank than t-62a by rather big margin. Look at t-62a wr graph its lot worse. Obj 140 is one of the strongest tier 10 medium tanks. Ofcourse obj 907 is better but it's OP. 

 

Im really not sure about turret buff, it was hard to shoot anyways, but somehow i dont like weakspots that you cant see properly. Maybe increase the cupolas a bit to compensate, so you have clearer target to shoot at? Is it going to be more like a brawler? If they nerf the gun change might be okay. 

 

T-62a needs slight buff compared to obj 140 because its a bit worse. Maybe t-62a gets gun buff so it will perform better as a sniper? But in general some tier 10 mediums need buffs (leopard 1) more than these. So hopefully all will get the same treatment then. 

 

Generally tier 10 mediums are worse than heavies, so this balanse 

 

 



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Unlocked & bought Obj. 140 9 hrs ago.

Its on a discount & top of the tree.

Is it actually possible that the tank I have is gonna get buffed?

Dunno what have I done to deserve all of that but let me tell you that those 3 days of t9-t10 grinding games where full PITA. Yesterdays first session: 6 won, 18 lost. The teams...

I hope Obj. will worth it.



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Well i'm mostly interested in the T44 buff

 

190mm frontal turret armor is a huge increase and with the added stats will make this tank quite viable IMO 

 

Also quite cool reading this: "

Changes for the T-44-100 (T-8, USSR Medium, Premium):

– Similar changes as in T-44 in terms of armor and modules"



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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 02 July 2017 - 07:02 PM, said:

View PostJuliusCheddar, on 02 July 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

Do you realize 140 got nerfed with HD remodel and now they're basically buffing it back, right? Or Russia bias myth is too stronk? 

 

It got nerfed to the point that it was balanced, and made the T-62A viable as an alternative for different scenarios and playstyles. We do NOT need it back to where it "was"

 

After making some heavy tonks into kings on tracks, this buff is understandable.

Also they have buffed that 907 or how it was called. No one can get it other than master race.

If they dont nerf 907 to the ground and Mous, Type 5 with it, than this is only choice they got.

Its unfair that 907 [edited] everything and other players cant get anything equally strong.

 

These are my thoughts on this and i'm shure i'm not only one.

The probleme is not obj140 buff but the whole russian tank fleet along with Type 5, Mouse and many many other tanks.

 

WG have chosen a direction and they dont really have lots of choices.


Edited by imendars, 03 July 2017 - 09:39 AM.


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Meanwhile, the Leopard 1 is still crying in the corner...

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View PostPandabird, on 03 July 2017 - 11:18 AM, said:

Well i'm mostly interested in the T44 buff

 

190mm frontal turret armor is a huge increase and with the added stats will make this tank quite viable IMO 

 

Also quite cool reading this: "

Changes for the T-44-100 (T-8, USSR Medium, Premium):

– Similar changes as in T-44 in terms of armor and modules"

 

Yep, finally i will be able to play my t-44-100 :)

I know lots of people are playing these things, but i have huge problem by having dpm no better than some tier 6 tanks :/

While dpm doesnt increase, everything else important improves and thats great. :)



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View PostEviscerador, on 03 July 2017 - 11:41 AM, said:

Meanwhile, the Leopard 1 is still crying in the corner...

 

Crying in corner?

 

I hate those things, it shoots my E100 in turret like nothing. I still remember that blasted Leopard 1 who [edited] up my E5 BEFORE the nerf frontally. I had to aim, leopard just had to click. Not saying Leopard 1 is great, i have never played it. But every time i meat that thing in fair battle, leopard never dings.

 

But than perhaps thats cause only pros drive it. duno. Just saying. I'm scared of leopards...

 

Edit.

Just checked Leopard 1. yep, it have 0.28 dispersion. That thing is a super mobile tank destroyer with a rare accuracy. Like TVP it cant push, but it can snipe like few tanks.

Only problem might be number of maps where Leopard 1 is forced to be relatively close to its enemy therefore favoring rus meds... :trollface:   :bajan:


Edited by imendars, 03 July 2017 - 10:06 AM.


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View Postimendars, on 03 July 2017 - 09:45 AM, said:

 

Crying in corner?

 

I hate those things, it shoots my E100 in turret like nothing. I still remember that blasted Leopard 1 who [edited] up my E5 BEFORE the nerf frontally. I had to aim, leopard just had to click. Not saying Leopard 1 is great, i have never played it. But every time i meat that thing in fair battle, leopard never dings.

 

But than perhaps thats cause only pros drive it. duno. Just saying. I'm scared of leopards...

 

Edit.

Just checked Leopard 1. yep, it have 0.28 dispersion. That thing is a super mobile tank destroyer with a rare accuracy. Like TVP it cant push, but it can snipe like few tanks.

Only problem might be number of maps where Leopard 1 is forced to be relatively close to its enemy therefore favoring rus meds... :trollface:   :bajan:

You are so wrong I don't know if it's sad or funny 



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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 03 July 2017 - 12:51 PM, said:

You are so wrong I don't know if it's sad or funny 

 

Wrong about what?  0.28 is superb accuracy, is it not? 390 is a good damage for medium, is it not? It also seems to have good dpm, does it not? It have superb aiming time. Am i wrong so far?

As i told before, i dont play this tank. But where seem to be problem?

does it not have medium tank cammo? tanks.gg doesnt show that.

But it have 0 armor. Well, many tanks have 0 armor (except russian ones...)

 

Checked, object 140 have better dpm.

But where is the *obvious* problem with this tank?

 

And what i'm wrong about? You saying it cant kill anything? Good aim time and 0.28 accuracy means it can make superb sniping while being further away.

Ofc if something shoots at it it will blow up.

 

So what does it need? Better cammo, better dpm or what? they are not gona give it armor i think we both can atleast agree on that.

 

 

P.s. I'm not trying to anger entire Leopard 1 comunity, so you can put your torches away. Just wana understand as i kinda want to get this tank too. Just seems cool.

I myselfe (in a noobish way) can imagine it as a better version of strv s1, except i have no idea what are the cammo values of Leopard 1...


Edited by imendars, 03 July 2017 - 11:15 AM.


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Russian meds don't need buffing, they aren't even remotely close to the bottom of the spectrum in their respective class and tier. Both the T-54 and Obj.140 are more than fine at the moment.

 

T-44 needs a penetration buff to around 202, no other changes required.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 03 July 2017 - 11:16 AM.





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