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Ph3lan #1 Posted 05 July 2017 - 01:45 PM

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Please feel free to hold any discussions regarding the matchmaker in this thread.

 

Any other threads created about the matchmaker will be merged with this one to prevent matchmaking threads from dominating the gameplay forum.



EvilThatMenDo #2 Posted 05 July 2017 - 01:55 PM

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Will I ever be toptier again when I play in platoon? I don't even want to farm two tier lower tanks, same tier battles would be perfectly fine for me, but being lowtier the whole night over and over again while playing with friends starts to get annoying. 

Edited by EvilThatMenDo, 05 July 2017 - 11:41 PM.


captainpigg #3 Posted 05 July 2017 - 02:16 PM

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Of course WarGamingEU likes to confuse the matter, this is one of the MM redirects.

 

*edit*

 

So copypaste responses from support, and now the moderators as well.

 

Btw Ph3lan you did check that this is actually company policy before posting right?


Edited by Jahrakajin, 05 July 2017 - 02:42 PM.
Happens to everyone to miss-click or use the wrong macro every once in a while.


SlenderWolf #4 Posted 05 July 2017 - 02:22 PM

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Platoon sucks nowadays. You are always lowtier. Maybe that's the way WG wants it? Removing all forms of team play? Kinda seems like it. 

They managed to kill ranked team battle and more or less they've ruined stronghold, clanwars and implemented egomaniac solo-ranked as death sentence for all clan/team activity.
 

Also when playing tier 8 randoms solo you are hardly ever top tier. This MM feature that would guarantee you top tier after a couple of low tier games are nowhere to be seen. Also pretty obvious you try to nerf some premiums with the MM.
Never been closer to remove myself from this game with all my accounts. 


Edited by SlenderWolf, 05 July 2017 - 02:28 PM.


FluffyRedFox #5 Posted 05 July 2017 - 02:29 PM

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I would enjoy the new MM a lot more if it didn't completely Edited over platoons, and if tier 8 mm wasn't so Edited  in favour of becoming Maus food

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gunslingerXXX #6 Posted 05 July 2017 - 02:32 PM

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Considered buying the T26E5, but then I remembered I really do not want to play tier 8 right now.

GJ WG, I will keep my money in my pocket and just play the T29 for free in the much better tier 7 environment.


Edited by gunslingerXXX, 05 July 2017 - 02:33 PM.


SlenderWolf #7 Posted 05 July 2017 - 02:42 PM

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coming tomorrow I'm actually gonna try to do a 4 hour session in tier 8 and keep stats on the matchmaker...


Edited by SlenderWolf, 05 July 2017 - 02:52 PM.


Pagon1s #8 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:04 PM

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New matchmaking is depressing, especially if you play in a platoon :(

 

Tanks like Lorr 40t has to play tier 10 battles 9 times out of 10. Why and how?

 

15vs15 Tier 10 is a pure gold spam slugfest with 3-4 Type 5 and Maus on each team...



Unforgiving_Destiny #9 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:16 PM

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Fix tier 8 and tier 10 MM , when playing tier 8 99% of the times you are in tier 10 MM and 0.9% you are in tier 9 and if you are lucky 0.1% in a full tier 8 MM , and same applies to tier 10 99% of the times you see full tier 10 and rarely see tier 9 or 8 (except if you play when player base is low like late nights or early mornings)

EDIT: Also what i noticed which is either a bug or whatever is that whenever you play tier 10 arty it is guaranteed that 9 out of 10 battles you are top tier , i don't understand this really.


Edited by Princess_Ema, 05 July 2017 - 03:20 PM.


AC130Pilot #10 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:18 PM

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Too many battles in M53/M55 as top tier...

SABAOTH #11 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:25 PM

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I resigned from buying more tier 8 premium tanks because I simply lost the fun to play them being constantly bottom tier. :P

 

On the other hand is very profitable to run free tier X tanks since there is so much free damage to be done having 7 tier 8 that cannot do anything serious to my heavies or are easy pick with my mediums. :coin:

 

Nobody wants to be always the underdog, but I am aware that this issue does not exist according to official replies. :amazed:

 

PS: I bought Mutz and still have to see a single tier 6 in it.


Edited by SABAOTH, 05 July 2017 - 03:26 PM.


AC130Pilot #12 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:25 PM

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View PostPagon1s, on 05 July 2017 - 02:04 PM, said:

15vs15 Tier 10 is a pure gold spam slugfest with 3-4 Type 5 and Maus on each team...

 

A balancing parameter "super heavy tank" for Type 5 Heavy, Maus might fix the issue. Match equal amounts on both teams and limit their number like it's with SPGs.



lord_chipmonk #13 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:30 PM

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View PostPrincess_Ema, on 05 July 2017 - 03:16 PM, said:

Fix tier 8 and tier 10 MM , when playing tier 8 99% of the times you are in tier 10 MM and 0.9% you are in tier 9 and if you are lucky 0.1% in a full tier 8 MM , and same applies to tier 10 99% of the times you see full tier 10 and rarely see tier 9 or 8 (except if you play when player base is low like late nights or early mornings)

EDIT: Also what i noticed which is either a bug or whatever is that whenever you play tier 10 arty it is guaranteed that 9 out of 10 battles you are top tier , i don't understand this really.

 

Little known fact that 85% of statistics are made up...

 

Personally, I much prefer this MM to pre 9.18 MM. I don't play in platoons very much, so can't comment on that though. 



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View PostgunslingerXXX, on 05 July 2017 - 02:32 PM, said:

Considered buying the T26E5, but then I remembered I really do not want to play tier 8 right now.

GJ WG, I will keep my money in my pocket and just play the T29 for free in the much better tier 7 environment.

 

thats why i will never play high tiers xD

Geno1isme #15 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:44 PM

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 05 July 2017 - 04:25 PM, said:

 

A balancing parameter "super heavy tank" for Type 5 Heavy, Maus might fix the issue. Match equal amounts on both teams and limit their number like it's with SPGs.

 

What about E100, IS-4, E75, Mäuschen, Type4, ST-1, Vk100, JPE, ...?

More hardcoded "classes" don't solve the problem in the long run, the MM needs to look beyond classes to balance armor and firepower (and maybe a few other things). But the 9.18 Kindergarten-MM only cares about class and tier which is (one reason) why it sucks even more than the previous MM.



Vasilek #16 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:06 PM

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Old MM topic removed and new one installed.

EU players will moan (tr8 v tr10 , arty MM, platooning  etc )    WG .... " its fine, working as intended (cash flow is fine) "

Nothing changes,

 

So this thread should have been positively entitled  "WG  are reviewing the MM , what are the issues" 

Then a later date they actively tell us what their going to do about it.

A new thread should an opportunity for WG to be a bit more positive. .....one can hope.

 

Sorry I was day dreaming for minute :-) 

 

However this thread will be another depressing moaning one, because we play this game , we like it (frustrating as hell sometimes ) and we moan about it because we/some care about the game.

 

No doubt WG will come with a "new" solution to MM  and no doubt a lot of new grief. Every time they try to fix one thing, they cause a whole heap of other issues. Its almost as if there teams are working in silos .However we just looking from the gaming perspective not overall business income ...but unhappy customers = less sales.

 

So WG  get your act together.

 

PS  MM issues as above and will be repeated about 100's over   

 

 

 

 

 



thiextar #17 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:08 PM

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Platoon matchmaking NEEDS to be fixed, seriously, what are you even thinking? Punishing us for playing with friends in an mmo? This game has now devolved to three of us sitting in the same discord channel playing lonely matches of wot without platooning, and let me tell you: We are getting very very tired and bored of this game cause the only thing that kept us interested was that we could play it together. The end.

Unforgiving_Destiny #18 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:21 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 05 July 2017 - 02:30 PM, said:

 

Little known fact that 85% of statistics are made up...

 

Personally, I much prefer this MM to pre 9.18 MM. I don't play in platoons very much, so can't comment on that though. 

 

Whose statistics is made up ? if you mean me well go ahead and try it out for yourself but if you mean WG then yes because they say that their MM remembers how many times you were bottom tier and puts you in top tier + 3 5 7 system is prefered which is a lie because you are always bottom tier in 3 5 7 when playing tier 8 and i really don't think 1 top tier match in every 20 match is anything special for MM to be credited for. 

leggasiini #19 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:24 PM

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Tier 8 MM is complete *Edited and needs to be fixed ASAP. Same for platoon MM.

 

Also revert MM to 9.18 state where 1 or 2 tier battles were priority over 3 tier battles.


Edited by Nohe21, 06 July 2017 - 08:25 AM.
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You simply don't care about our feedback. Simple as that.

 

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