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Jumping_Turtle #1 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:42 PM

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It had a very good punch, but, without a turret and the turning speed of a pregnant whale, it was the only thing it had.

 

The BL-10 gun on Tier VIII ISU-152 will be replaced by the 152 mm D-4S. In fact, the 152 mm D-4S is similar in its characteristics to the 152 mm BL-10 except for the armor penetration which will become lower (260 mm on D-4S).

 

So another one of my fav tanks that can be sold. Don't see much fun in playing this when there are way better TD's at tier 8 now.

 

 



SABAOTH #2 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:44 PM

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Does bl 10 stay on obj 704?

 

(That's a blow for the poor ISU)



Aikl #3 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:50 PM

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Hopefully they're just warming up for some nice and good RHM treatment.

 

260mm of pen should be plenty for a T8 TD. HP buff means it's more viable to not sit in that goddamn bush all game and snipe. ;)



captainpigg #4 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:53 PM

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Source? Also well this will be a fun shitstorm. 

leggasiini #5 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:54 PM

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282 pen + 750 alpha was broken combination, anyways.

 

260 pen is still more than enough in tier 8 lol



AvalancheZ257 #6 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:56 PM

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260 penetration should be fine for Tier VIII and IX games as a TD. Might struggle some more in Tier X games however, which unfortunately Tier VIII's see a whole lot of these days... 

lord_chipmonk #7 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:58 PM

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Never liked the ISU, but I don't understand this change. I mean, not like the ISU was OP or anything...

captainpigg #8 Posted 05 July 2017 - 03:59 PM

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22mm only whoopee, anyone know what the gold pen/type will be?

AvalancheZ257 #9 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:05 PM

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 05 July 2017 - 03:59 PM, said:

22mm only whoopee, anyone know what the gold pen/type will be?

 

Premium ammo penetration of the new gun is 292mm. Not amazing, seeing how its only 6 more than the standard AP penetration is now, but it should be workable. 

 

Source: 

 

https://thearmoredpa...n-tds-and-is-7/

 

(Look in the brackets, it says "260/292/90" )

 

EDIT: I'm not actually sure what the premium ammunition type will be, but seeing its rather low penetration in comparison to the standard round, its probably APCR.


Edited by AvalancheZ257, 05 July 2017 - 04:06 PM.


captainpigg #10 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:10 PM

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Could also be premium AP as well.

Jigabachi #11 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:12 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 05 July 2017 - 03:58 PM, said:

I mean, not like the ISU was OP or anything...

It doesn't have to be OP to be balancebreaking...



AvalancheZ257 #12 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:13 PM

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View Postcaptainpigg, on 05 July 2017 - 04:10 PM, said:

Could also be premium AP as well.

 

Not likely, its a Russian gun and the Russians had a lot of APCR ammo during WW2 (and immediately afterwards), so there's no reason to invent a new premium AP round. 

Edited by AvalancheZ257, 05 July 2017 - 04:13 PM.


h4ctor #13 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:15 PM

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in my experience those tanks are driven by morons with no interest in the game but shooting once a game for 750...every nerf is welcomed by me

Aikl #14 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:21 PM

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Half of the problem is not in the gun, but rather how the map caters to hiding in a bush without a mind for what happens in the game before enemies push into your draw distance. 

 

Maybe the HP buff is a way to make it more relevant on maps where there are less or no bush-rock fort in the base? :D



lord_chipmonk #15 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:21 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 05 July 2017 - 04:12 PM, said:

It doesn't have to be OP to be balancebreaking...

 

True, but if I were to change anything about the ISU it would be the 750 alpha at tier 8...

 

I mean, 260 pen, 290 pen, on a tier 8 machine you'll pen most of the time anyway, but the 750 alpha is the truly terrifying thing about the ISU. 



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View PostAvalancheZ257, on 05 July 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

 

Not likely, its a Russian gun and the Russians had a lot of APCR ammo during WW2 (and immediately afterwards), so there's no reason to invent a new premium AP round. 

 

Um Kv2?

MacD3rpington #17 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:24 PM

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Another bites tte dust.

The single reason playing that tank was the gun. It was troll as hell but made me laugh. I was rarely playing it nowdays, besause I alway got into T10, so I was considering selling it. Same with the T 54. Will wait for the buff, but it will go eventually.



Isharial #18 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:27 PM

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it potentially might be better with this

pens lower, but a few extra HP, and perhaps, better accuracy etc.. on the new gun.. might not be so troll..


 

but who knows?



Phobos4321 #19 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:47 PM

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wasnt it funny that the BL10 on ISU was better than grille15 150mm gun ?  better pen. , better dpm and even its shells are cheaper  for the t8 that is

1ncompetenc3 #20 Posted 05 July 2017 - 04:51 PM

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So it's penetration will become respectable rather than over the top for its tier. I'm really not seeing why people are creating drama out of this. Is it a completely random nerf that seems weirdly prioritised compared to other vehicles that need a rework of some kind? Well yes, but this is WG, I would expect no less. Is 260mm pen on a tier VIII TD the end of the world? Why don't you ask AT-15 with its mighty 226mm pen? Or Tortoise with 259mm pen on tier IX? And yes those have guns that are more accurate, but accuracy is largely BS in this game anyway and AT-15 would have to nail four shots in a row and to surpass the damage done by one shot from ISU.







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