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FV215b (183) is OP and needs to get nerfed NOW!


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AC130Pilot #1 Posted 07 July 2017 - 09:48 AM

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OKAY! Listen up now, boys... The thing is I'm really cranky to the point of crying, so please help!


Yo, here's the deal. The thing is I got 1-shot-kabloomied by FV215b (183) while driving my pretty T-62 A, and I didn't like that, so I'm letting you know. Minus 1950 HP in half a second is unfair and undemocratic. I request changes to be made immediately!


TL;DR: all players (yes, all; there's no one that disagrees) are in a desperate need of tier 10 TD HE shell penetration value decrease in terms of balance prosperity. Also, how do I boat the Sheridan? I can't seem to locate the rudder controls in the settings.



Sir_Bad #2 Posted 07 July 2017 - 09:54 AM

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While the concept of the both the 183 and the 4005 Stage 2 is clearly flawed from a balance standpoint, I would very much disagree with further nerfing the HE-penetration on them.

 

From my perspective it is time the Edited Stage 2 would receive some some love from WG. The 183 can stay as it is.

 

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing. 


Edited by VMX, 07 July 2017 - 10:40 AM.


Velvet_Underground #3 Posted 07 July 2017 - 09:56 AM

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It is broken, not OP. Fixes are welcome though.


Edited by Velvet_Underground, 07 July 2017 - 09:56 AM.


AC130Pilot #4 Posted 07 July 2017 - 09:57 AM

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Sir_Bad,

 

Negatory! Take a look at this.



qpranger #5 Posted 07 July 2017 - 09:59 AM

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Yes. No. Maybe.

imendars #6 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:00 AM

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 07 July 2017 - 11:48 AM, said:

OKAY! Listen up now, boys... The thing is I'm really cranky to the point of crying, so please help!


Yo, here's the deal. The thing is I got 1-shot-kabloomied by FV215b (183) while driving my pretty T-62 A, and I didn't like that, so I'm letting you know. Minus 1950 HP in half a second is unfair and undemocratic. I request changes to be made immediately!


TL;DR: all players (yes, all; there's no one that disagrees) are in a desperate need of tier 10 TD HE shell penetration value decrease in terms of balance prosperity. Also, how do I boat the Sheridan? I can't seem to locate the rudder controls in the settings.

 

No, WG MUST BUFF it cause of all kinds of important reasons.   :trollface:    :bajan:

Kozzy #7 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:06 AM

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I say keep the 183 gun on the Fv4005 and tweak the stats, make it still a scary tank to face but more fun and competitive to play.  The FV215b 183 though would be great if it had the Tortoise's gun with the same gun stats.  Leave every else alone.

Sir_Bad #8 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:11 AM

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 07 July 2017 - 08:57 AM, said:

Sir_Bad,

 

Negatory! Take a look at this.

 

183 and Edited  are not the same as the major Edited  that is arty these days. Let me give you a hint: the problem is called stun. Oh and also, you seem to be forgetting the whole shooting over cover from half the map away thing that arty has going for itself...

 

Still thinking the Edited  could be made more enjoyable. 

 

This post has been edited by the moderation team due to swearing. 

 


Edited by VMX, 07 July 2017 - 10:43 AM.


AC130Pilot #9 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:15 AM

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View PostSir_Bad, on 07 July 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

Oh and also, you seem to be forgetting the whole shooting over cover from half the map away thing that arty has going for itself...

 

What are you talking about? I tend to face-hug my enemies so they know it's personal. Also, you get that warm and fuzzy feeling when you explode right into the face of a Maus. Mmm... ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° )

Edited by AC130Pilot, 07 July 2017 - 10:21 AM.


Mimos_A #10 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:17 AM

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Yes, it's so blatantly OP that I cringe every time when one is on my team, cause it's pretty likely the enemy will have one useless meme-tank on their team less than we do...

Edited by Mimos_A, 07 July 2017 - 10:19 AM.


shishx_the_animal #11 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:22 AM

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The mix of bold and different colors to make a point is too cringy...

s3thus #12 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:24 AM

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Soviet med noobwagons getting roflstomped is a beautiful sight.

Enderman21 #13 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:29 AM

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I think this vehicle is idiotic too. On open maps and big distances, not a problem playing against it. But on corridor maps? 

 

C'mon, everyone here knows this tank is retarded, even the smart guys who say it isn't.

 

It's not normal for this tank to one shot a tier 10 medium if it penetrates it and if it doesn't, deal 800 damage on it. It's just plain stupid.

 

FV 183 is just a TD version of Type 5 heavy. Deal damage without aiming.



sgtYester #14 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:31 AM

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after the he nerf it got its actaully pretty bad with the hesh shells

usually 500 on average.  they should buff it to make the hesh shells usefull again



Cobra6 #15 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:33 AM

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The vehicle is not OP, the HESH ammo is beyond broken. High alpha guns like this on any class need to be properly balanced and not have one ammo type that does a crapton more damage.

 

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Aikl #16 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:34 AM

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View PostSir_Bad, on 07 July 2017 - 09:11 AM, said:

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Still thinking the Edited  could be made more enjoyable. 

 

TD and enjoyable. Pick one. :P

 

View PostEnderman21, on 07 July 2017 - 09:29 AM, said:

(...)
FV 183 is just a TD version of Type 5 heavy. Deal damage without aiming.

 

At least someone had  the sense to balance it a bit by ammo capacity. Broken or not, it makes it lack in drawn-out engagements.


Edited by VMX, 07 July 2017 - 10:47 AM.


AC130Pilot #17 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:34 AM

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View PostPrincess_Ema, on 07 July 2017 - 09:25 AM, said:

Edited

 

Just replace clowns with SPGs and witness the beauty that is of an anti-SPG activist...



Edited by VMX, 07 July 2017 - 10:48 AM.


qpranger #18 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:36 AM

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 07 July 2017 - 11:22 AM, said:

The mix of bold and different colors to make a point is too cringy...

 

You complain simply because you do not possess this useful computer literacy skill.

T_H_F #19 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:37 AM

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Have run Sbarn for some games, its pure fun, not actual a carry tank, and u get spotted every place on a map except absolute corners, but who are sitting there..

I rather have the 183 instead...



Balc0ra #20 Posted 07 July 2017 - 10:39 AM

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View PostAC130Pilot, on 07 July 2017 - 09:57 AM, said:

Sir_Bad,

 

Negatory! Take a look at this.

 

And? That's a 59 pen 1200 damage HE shell that hit his 25mm engine deck. What's your point? It did not pen his HT armor head on. Even on a high roll, it would not be enough to 1 shot anything tier X.. like you whined about. Nor did it 1 shot him.. as he was hit before and after. As he pointed out... he was under the impression that arty was supposed to do 500 damage to him. Indicating this.... was not a common thing even for him.

 

You whined about a HESH shell with 230 pen and 1750 damage on an average roll. As I suspect it was not his HE shell. Your T-62A has 1950 HP. So he needs a 12% high roll to kill you. If it was an HE shell.. you should be applauding him. Since he must fully pen you to do that kind of damage. And if you were at a distance on the move? Well... Unlike arty, he can't aim for you engine deck constantly. And that won't do that kind of damage unless he fully pens.

 

HESH in this game has never worked tbh.. it's broken. And WG are indeed looking for a fix on this tank. As well as the German tier X  Jagdpanzer E 100. As they want to reduce their alpha.  Even on HE.

 

 






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