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Noo_Noo #1 Posted 08 July 2017 - 10:55 AM

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I have posted this in the Mm thread but this needs to be shared properly and more people need t be aware. 

here are the damage stats for the Patriot, Skorpion G  and Defender from Vb Addict

As you can see from June onward the damage output, credit earning take a dive. Funny how this coincides with the introduction of patches 9:18 and 9:19.  Damage received also increases for all in this period. These vehicles are recognised as being OP. WG themselves admitted as much with the Defender. Yet even these guys aren't performing as they were. If these tanks cant perform what hope does any other Tier 8 vehicle?

Apparently its working as it should

Here are the links

http://www.vbaddict....2u_defender-190

 

http://www.vbaddict....6e5_patriot-231


http://www.vbaddict...._skorpion_g-196


Edited by Noo_Noo, 08 July 2017 - 10:57 AM.


Shnuks #2 Posted 08 July 2017 - 10:59 AM

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Still OP as ever.



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View PostNoo_Noo, on 08 July 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:


As you can see from June onward the damage output, credit earning take a dive. Funny how this coincides with the introduction of patches 9:18 and 9:19.  Damage received also increases for all in this period. These vehicles are recognised as being OP. WG themselves admitted as much with the Defender. Yet even these guys aren't performing as they were. If these tanks cant perform what hope does any other Tier 8 vehicle?

Apparently its working as it should

 

As pointed out above. Other stats shows them preforming as pr the norm still... like WR. They are most likely facing more equal tiers and higher, and not tier 6 tanks etc. As +0 games on tier 8 is more common now to name one. So they are facing more tougher targets, and not something they can steam roll constantly. Thus their incoming damage goes up etc.



Noo_Noo #4 Posted 08 July 2017 - 11:16 AM

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View PostShnuks, on 08 July 2017 - 10:59 AM, said:

 

Still OP as ever.

 

According to VB addict the WR for the Defender dipped a little in June and pretty much plateaued. One of them strange things given the drop in damage output over the same period. 



250swb #5 Posted 08 July 2017 - 11:18 AM

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Defender 53.98% WR, Obj.252U 55.27% WR in the last month, glad I got the 252U, but I'd be happy with either stat and not panic just yet.

Noo_Noo #6 Posted 08 July 2017 - 11:19 AM

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View PostBalc0ra, on 08 July 2017 - 11:13 AM, said:

 

As pointed out above. Other stats shows them preforming as pr the norm still... like WR. They are most likely facing more equal tiers and higher, and not tier 6 tanks etc. As +0 games on tier 8 is more common now to name one. So they are facing more tougher targets, and not something they can steam roll constantly. Thus their incoming damage goes up etc.

 

Indeed but my point is that these are recognised as the strongest Tier 8 tanks going. 

What about the Pershing or T69 or any other Tier 8 for that matter.

 

here's the Pershing. Another in decline and i bet its the same story across every Tier 8 tanks. lights may be different due to the recent changes.

 

http://www.vbaddict....m26_pershing-23


Edited by Noo_Noo, 08 July 2017 - 11:19 AM.


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View PostNoo_Noo, on 08 July 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:

I have posted this in the Mm thread but this needs to be shared properly and more people need t be aware. 

here are the damage stats for the Patriot, Skorpion G  and Defender from Vb Addict

As you can see from June onward the damage output, credit earning take a dive. Funny how this coincides with the introduction of patches 9:18 and 9:19.  Damage received also increases for all in this period. These vehicles are recognised as being OP. WG themselves admitted as much with the Defender. Yet even these guys aren't performing as they were. If these tanks cant perform what hope does any other Tier 8 vehicle?

Apparently its working as it should

Here are the links

http://www.vbaddict....2u_defender-190

 

http://www.vbaddict....6e5_patriot-231


http://www.vbaddict...._skorpion_g-196

 

If they don't perform that good anymore then it seems bad players don't get carried by those tanks because of the new MM. Good for them :trollface:

Also...does vbaddict log all players?



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View PostEnforcer1975, on 08 July 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

 

If they don't perform that good anymore then it seems bad players don't get carried by those tanks because of the new MM. Good for them :trollface:

Also...does vbaddict log all players?

 

No.

MattTheMiz #9 Posted 08 July 2017 - 11:36 AM

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simply the rigging is working as intended, t8 have to shoot more (if not only) gold ammo to stand a chance and so net income with patriot (4k x gold ammo LOL) and the other tanks got sodomized...

This system is RIGGED



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View PostMattTheMiz, on 08 July 2017 - 11:36 AM, said:

simply the rigging is working as intended, t8 have to shoot more (if not only) gold ammo to stand a chance and so net income with patriot (4k x gold ammo LOL) and the other tanks got sodomized...

This system is RIGGED

 

I don't think you know the meaning f the word "rigged". 

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View PostNoo_Noo, on 08 July 2017 - 10:55 AM, said:

here are the damage stats for the Patriot, Skorpion G  and Defender from Vb Addict

 

Are these stats complete, i.e. take in all player games, or are they stats for a subset of player  games?

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 08 July 2017 - 10:37 AM, said:

 

I don't think you know the meaning f the word "rigged". 

 

i like it, but it rigged because you have to spend more credits if you want to be competitive, and so more premium tanks, premium acc... that may be a good idea to increase wg income, but it's too much, they have gone too far, specially hitting the premium playerbase, this is a big mistake

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View PostMattTheMiz, on 08 July 2017 - 10:51 AM, said:

 

i like it, but it rigged because you have to spend more credits if you want to be competitive, and so more premium tanks, premium acc... that may be a good idea to increase wg income, but it's too much, they have gone too far, specially hitting the premium playerbase, this is a big mistake

 

But that's not what rigged means.

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View PostMattTheMiz, on 08 July 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

 

i like it, but it rigged because you have to spend more credits if you want to be competitive, and so more premium tanks, premium acc... that may be a good idea to increase wg income, but it's too much, they have gone too far, specially hitting the premium playerbase, this is a big mistake

 

You may well be right, though I wouldn't use the word "rigged" to describe that. 

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View PostHeidenSieker, on 08 July 2017 - 11:40 AM, said:

 

Are these stats complete, i.e. take in all player games, or are they stats for a subset of player  games?

 

No idea to be honest. It might not include people that dont use VBAddict and their stats logger stuff. 

The real question is whether the sample is representative. It's certainly big enough to be. 

I just found it interesting that the figures took a real dive in June this year. The Defender and Patriot weren't on sale during that period from memory so it cant be blamed on new players flooding the data with experienced crews and bad play etc . This is people that have used these tanks for a little while. 

I suppose some of it could be down to people figuring out how to play the Defender but the Patriot was released earlier and yet the dip happens at the same time. So that isn't the full story either. I can only think that its down to patches 9:18 and 9:19.

But again I reiterate these are supposedly the strongest of Tier 8 tanks. What about the rest? I concede how this relates to WR is a bit odd. There was a small dip in WR around June so still performing very well in that regard
http://www.vbaddict....2u_defender-190

 

WR for the Patriot dipped a fair bit in June too. Moreso than the Defender. Notice the jump up which I think correlates to the recent reintroduction into the shop


http://www.vbaddict....6e5_patriot-231

For me patch 9:18 and 9:19 has obviously hit these tanks and I think its fair to say every Tier 8 tank



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View PostNoo_Noo, on 10 July 2017 - 08:42 AM, said:

 

No idea to be honest. It might not include people that dont use VBAddict and their stats logger stuff. 

The real question is whether the sample is representative. It's certainly big enough to be. 

I just found it interesting that the figures took a real dive in June this year. The Defender and Patriot weren't on sale during that period from memory so it cant be blamed on new players flooding the data with experienced crews and bad play etc . This is people that have used these tanks for a little while. 

I suppose some of it could be down to people figuring out how to play the Defender but the Patriot was released earlier and yet the dip happens at the same time. So that isn't the full story either. I can only think that its down to patches 9:18 and 9:19.

But again I reiterate these are supposedly the strongest of Tier 8 tanks. What about the rest? I concede how this relates to WR is a bit odd. There was a small dip in WR around June so still performing very well in that regard
http://www.vbaddict....2u_defender-190

 

WR for the Patriot dipped a fair bit in June too. Moreso than the Defender. Notice the jump up which I think correlates to the recent reintroduction into the shop


http://www.vbaddict....6e5_patriot-231

For me patch 9:18 and 9:19 has obviously hit these tanks and I think its fair to say every Tier 8 tank

 

I believe that a lot of the stats are taken from all the battles that VBAddict knows about so that's not only the players that use it but also all the other tanks in each off those battles. That does mean there's going to be some bias in its figures but that's not so much of a problem in this case as it's relative differences that are being looked at.




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