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Poll: The worst t8 premium (136 members have cast votes)

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Worst tier 8 premium tank

  1. T34-3 (17 votes [12.50%])

    Percentage of vote: 12.50%

  2. JT88 (22 votes [16.18%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.18%

  3. Kanonjagdpz (40 votes [29.41%])

    Percentage of vote: 29.41%

  4. Kv-5 (8 votes [5.88%])

    Percentage of vote: 5.88%

  5. IS-6 (13 votes [9.56%])

    Percentage of vote: 9.56%

  6. AMX cdc (4 votes [2.94%])

    Percentage of vote: 2.94%

  7. T34 (9 votes [6.62%])

    Percentage of vote: 6.62%

  8. Not on the list (23 votes [16.91%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.91%

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scorpiontank1 #1 Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:11 AM

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Just wanted to see community opinion on this , if you don't find the tank on the list then please comment down below and specify

 

FYI : t54 mod is getting buff that why I didn't add it  


Edited by scorpiontank1, 10 July 2017 - 07:14 AM.


Spurtung #2 Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:14 AM

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So did you make that short list because you're lazy or clueless?

Suurpolskija #3 Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:19 AM

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I pity the Kv-5. It wasn't brilliant even before, now it's just hopeless.

SABAOTH #4 Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:22 AM

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there is a lot of garbage in tier 8 premium however, you put only a few and can select only one answer. But some of those suck equally bad.

imendars #5 Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:23 AM

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View PostSuurpolskija, on 10 July 2017 - 09:19 AM, said:

I pity the Kv-5. It wasn't brilliant even before, now it's just hopeless.

 

Thought if someone managed to get 60% WR in that thing, it would show this person is superior being or something on that track... :trollface:

SABAOTH #6 Posted 10 July 2017 - 07:27 AM

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Anyway if you want a list of the worst premium tanks: check those on summer sale. :coin:

captainpigg #7 Posted 10 July 2017 - 08:00 AM

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The worst premium, is the one in which you personally suck, in for whatever reason. The most pointless, is the one you bought that you aren't playing the regular line in yet or are planning to. What part of premium tanks purpose ingame, which is crew training (and credit earning for tier 8's), do people not get?

qpranger #8 Posted 10 July 2017 - 08:11 AM

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How dare you include the lovely

Kanonenjagdpanzer in this poll?!?!?!

It is nimble, I tell you, nimble!!!!



arthurwellsley #9 Posted 10 July 2017 - 08:22 AM

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Of the 42 premium tier VIII tanks on EU the bottom by win rate which it is easy to suggest includes how effective they are for the team, and on the outcome of the battle are;

Position 40 = Kanonenjadpanzer = 47.95%

Position 41 = T54 first prototype = 47.5%

Position 42 =  Panther mit 8.8cm L/71 = win rate of 47%, the bottom and therefore the WORST statistically.

Source = http://www.vbaddict....ratio&server=eu


Edited by arthurwellsley, 10 July 2017 - 08:23 AM.


leggasiini #10 Posted 10 July 2017 - 08:36 AM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 10 July 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

Of the 42 premium tier VIII tanks on EU the bottom by win rate which it is easy to suggest includes how effective they are for the team, and on the outcome of the battle are;

Position 40 = Kanonenjadpanzer = 47.95%

Position 41 = T54 first prototype = 47.5%

Position 42 =  Panther mit 8.8cm L/71 = win rate of 47%, the bottom and therefore the WORST statistically.

Source = http://www.vbaddict....ratio&server=eu

 

Not a very good indicator, the WR generally waries +1/-1% from "average", so the list can be different month after. Quite often when I have checked the list the Kanonen has been on bottom; there has been ocassions when it had only around 45% WR. Then there is things like Chieftain/T95 which while considered as trash tank is still quite high because only skilled players has one.

 

I would say Kanonen is the worst.


Edited by leggasiini, 10 July 2017 - 08:37 AM.


ellua #11 Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:08 AM

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Kanonenjagdpanzer  :

 

No turret.

Very low view range

Minimal armor that is vulnerable to HE shells.

Slow gun traverse speed.

Low rate of fire.

Relatively poor gun penetration.

Very low alpha dmg for TD.

 



Lord_Edge #12 Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:10 AM

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Lol at the way KV-5 and T-34 are beating the IS-6 XD

1ucky #13 Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:18 AM

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The poll doesn't make much sense.
How useful tanks are is very situational. Some tanks are good at some things and suck at others, while with other tanks it's vice-versa.

You could perhaps argue that by asking which tank is the most specialised one (and thereby least efficient in the highest number of substantially diverse situations) it might be easier to find an answer, but the question was simply which one is "the worst" and that's very broadly open to subjective interpretation.

Also the small list of tanks is a joke.

Anyhow, arthurwellsley's reference to vbaddict's ranking lists seems to me a good idea if you wish to compare premiums without ever having played them.

Another option would be to read wiki pages on them, pull up the hidden stats and armor models on tanks.gg or whereever, and watch respective tank reviews on youtube, or see some replays.

All those things combined might help you get a better idea about how "good" or "bad" a tank is. (Or how much fun it would be to *you*.)

A simple poll like this can't help you with that.

Dragonlordcv #14 Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:21 AM

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All T8 premiums except maybe scorpion and defender are unplayable with new MM. WG provided for that. Personally i will never buy premium tanks again in the fear of future idiotic changes.

Thanks WG fo teaching me a good lesson, I won't spend any more of my money in vain.



Akathis #15 Posted 10 July 2017 - 09:23 AM

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View PostDragonlordcv, on 10 July 2017 - 09:21 AM, said:

All T8 premiums except maybe scorpion and defender are unplayable with new MM. WG provided for that. Personally i will never buy premium tanks again in the fear of future idiotic changes.

Thanks WG fo teaching me a good lesson, I won't spend any more of my money in vain.

 

THIS. :medal:



arthurwellsley #16 Posted 10 July 2017 - 10:43 AM

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View Postleggasiini, on 10 July 2017 - 07:36 AM, said:

 

Not a very good indicator, the WR generally waries +1/-1% from "average", so the list can be different month after. Quite often when I have checked the list the Kanonen has been on bottom; there has been ocassions when it had only around 45% WR. Then there is things like Chieftain/T95 which while considered as trash tank is still quite high because only skilled players has one.

 

I would say Kanonen is the worst.

 

Although the Panther mit 8.8 cm L/71 is bad, and has a bad win rate, I am happy to agree that the Kanonenpanzer is the worst.

 

View PostDragonlordcv, on 10 July 2017 - 08:21 AM, said:

All T8 premiums except maybe scorpion and defender are unplayable with new MM. WG provided for that. Personally i will never buy premium tanks again in the fear of future idiotic changes.

Thanks WG fo teaching me a good lesson, I won't spend any more of my money in vain.

 

Ever heard of  "built-in obsolescence" or "planned obsolescence"? In MMOs it is referred to as "power creep", if you think WG is guilty of it in a bad way, the masters of the art in games are surely Blizzard entertainment.

 

Defined as;

"in industrial design and economics is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so it will become obsolete (that is, unfashionable or no longer functional) after a certain period of time. The rationale behind the strategy is to generate long-term sales volume by reducing the time between repeat purchases (referred to as "shortening the replacement cycle. "

 

@DragonLordCV if you do not understand the concept, then please do not ever buy a motor car. The biggest cost of ownership is depreciation due to the next new model coming out round the corner, making your fancy new model worth a third of what it was worth a few months ago.


Edited by arthurwellsley, 10 July 2017 - 10:45 AM.


brumbarr #17 Posted 10 July 2017 - 10:53 AM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 10 July 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

 

Although the Panther mit 8.8 cm L/71 is bad, and has a bad win rate, I am happy to agree that the Kanonenpanzer is the worst.

 

 

Ever heard of  "built-in obsolescence" or "planned obsolescence"? In MMOs it is referred to as "power creep", if you think WG is guilty of it in a bad way, the masters of the art in games are surely Blizzard entertainment.

 

Defined as;

"in industrial design and economics is a policy of planning or designing a product with an artificially limited useful life, so it will become obsolete (that is, unfashionable or no longer functional) after a certain period of time. The rationale behind the strategy is to generate long-term sales volume by reducing the time between repeat purchases (referred to as "shortening the replacement cycle. "

 

@DragonLordCV if you do not understand the concept, then please do not ever buy a motor car. The biggest cost of ownership is depreciation due to the next new model coming out round the corner, making your fancy new model worth a third of what it was worth a few months ago.

The difference is that the road isnt a competetive environment. The car might be worth less, but it still does exactlt what it did before. It drives around just as well as before the next model was released. 

But if you buy a trackcar, then whem the next model is released your car will be more obselete, as its now slower compared to other cars on the track and you will get worse results in races. However on the road, your car lost no practical value at all. Your analogt does not make sense



Dragonlordcv #18 Posted 10 July 2017 - 10:54 AM

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You compare a real car with a virtual good.

FYI my 2003 car never was bought with a purpose to go against a Ferrari and still keeps up better than most new cars in the SAME c.c. (not to mention that many T8 have difficulties to fight their own tier....)

Before stating rules try to see their real life applications


Edited by Dragonlordcv, 10 July 2017 - 11:00 AM.


arthurwellsley #19 Posted 10 July 2017 - 12:01 PM

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@brumbarr - you are too young to have owned a succession of cars.

@Dragonlordcv - yes any car will drive from A to B.

 

The point you seem to have missed is that people buy and sell cars. They do it for all sorts of reasons, prestige and speed, as well as the utility of getting from A to B. Try reading this article about Golf GTIs. This is an iconic car, which arguably began the "hot hatch" sector of the market. Yet reading this article it is very clear the mk1 is very different from the mk3, or mk5 or mk7, yet they are all designed to get customers to buy them. Some of us have owned more than one.

 

http://www.telegraph...dary-hot-hatch/


Edited by arthurwellsley, 10 July 2017 - 12:01 PM.


tigermaister #20 Posted 10 July 2017 - 12:10 PM

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Kanonjagdpz is the worst td and tank i've played ever....




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