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spark82 #1 Posted 11 July 2017 - 02:36 PM

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https://thearmoredpa...-m46-and-m48a1/

 

Russian (better animation): http://wot-news.com/...n-na-superteste

 

What is your opinion? Me thinks yay. (M46 and M48 are my most played tanks, 3k each,)



ares354 #2 Posted 11 July 2017 - 02:48 PM

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Centurions are pointless then. Their turret armor is meaningless. So this buff kills Centurions, yea great job Slava...

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New patton turret looks amazing. Shame about the non-unique m60 spotlight, but I'll get over that. 

 

Didn't think the m46 needed that buff particularly though. It's a perfectly well balanced tank that's already a really good med, I'd rather stuff get nerfed down to that level than getting other episodes of powercreep. WG really should reconsider their "buffing over nerfing" policy for the longevity of the game, because it's getting out of hand frankly. What's next, a DPM buff to the skoda t50?



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Making tier 8 tanks more useless each day, good job devs, keep buffing tier 9s and 10s they oh sooo desperately need their buffs

Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #5 Posted 11 July 2017 - 03:11 PM

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How about a Pershing buff

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View PostHeathLedger_, on 11 July 2017 - 03:06 PM, said:

New patton turret looks amazing. Shame about the non-unique m60 spotlight, but I'll get over that. 

 

Didn't think the m46 needed that buff particularly though. It's a perfectly well balanced tank that's already a really good med, I'd rather stuff get nerfed down to that level than getting other episodes of powercreep. WG really should reconsider their "buffing over nerfing" policy for the longevity of the game, because it's getting out of hand frankly. What's next, a DPM buff to the skoda t50?

 

That's my point. Patton over E50 have better gun dep, better dpm, better soft stats on move and so on. What he dont have over E50 was armor. Now turret of M46 is better, and hull armor is not big deal if you know where to aim at E50. 

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View Postspark82, on 11 July 2017 - 01:36 PM, said:

https://thearmoredpa...-m46-and-m48a1/

 

Russian (better animation): http://wot-news.com/...n-na-superteste

 

What is your opinion? Me thinks yay. (M46 and M48 are my most played tanks, 3k each,)

 

I said it in the other Patton thread, and will say the same here. Leave the M46 and M48 Pattons alone, until the new USA medium line arrives ingame.

 

Put ingame a USA medium line ending in the M60A1, and do not use the wrong bits on the M46 and M48 in the meantime.



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View Postares354, on 11 July 2017 - 03:13 PM, said:

 

That's my point. Patton over E50 have better gun dep, better dpm, better soft stats on move and so on. What he dont have over E50 was armor. Now turret of M46 is better, and hull armor is not big deal if you know where to aim at E50. 

 

Twisting the truth doesn't give you a point. The patton has better gun handling, but it also has 0.37 base accuracy versus 0.29 on the the e50. Now, accuracy as a stat is a big lie, but when it's that far apart you'll really notice the difference in long range shooting and the ability to hit weakspots. E-50 also still has a higher top speed, that hull armor really helps bullying lower tiers and the gun depression difference between 8 and 10 isn't that pronounced.

 

E-50 is still a very good tank, it's just that the patton is given a niche over it now.



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View PostHeathLedger_, on 11 July 2017 - 03:23 PM, said:

 

Twisting the truth doesn't give you a point. The patton has better gun handling, but it also has 0.37 base accuracy versus 0.29 on the the e50. Now, accuracy as a stat is a big lie, but when it's that far apart you'll really notice the difference in long range shooting and the ability to hit weakspots. E-50 also still has a higher top speed, that hull armor really helps bullying lower tiers and the gun depression difference between 8 and 10 isn't that pronounced.

 

E-50 is still a very good tank, it's just that the patton is given a niche over it now.

 

Patton have niche over E50, dont need more. Dont justifie fake armor over acc. Patton have this acc for years now, and it was fine for years, and Patton dont needed to have armor on turret better then E50, and still was good MT, one of best on his tier. 

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i cant wait to see a Skoda buffed like this...like AMX 30s :D

 

then probably you will reaise what WG real plans are...



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View Postares354, on 11 July 2017 - 03:30 PM, said:

 

Patton have niche over E50, dont need more. Dont justifie fake armor over acc. Patton have this acc for years now, and it was fine for years, and Patton dont needed to have armor on turret better then E50, and still was good MT, one of best on his tier. 

 

I agree on that it didn't need a buff, but this buff just strengthens the niche it had over the E-50 while not really actually detracting anything from the E-50 other than making it less obviously superior all-round. It just seems to me like you're getting so caught up in this because you don't want your e-50 indirectly nerfed, which makes me wonder why you're even whinging about this rather than tier 10 armor powercreep going completely bonkers. 

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View PostHeathLedger_, on 11 July 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

 

I agree on that it didn't need a buff, but this buff just strengthens the niche it had over the E-50 while not really actually detracting anything from the E-50 other than making it less obviously superior all-round. It just seems to me like you're getting so caught up in this because you don't want your e-50 indirectly nerfed, which makes me wonder why you're even whinging about this rather than tier 10 armor powercreep going completely bonkers. 

 

I like E50, I lie Leo PTA, I am getting slowly to Patton, but what I dont wish to have is same tanks with dfferent skins. And this is what WG is doing on tier 10. On tier 9 they buffing very good balanced Patton, and what will be with Centurion or Type 61 ? T54 get buff as well. This is wrong, WG buff best tier 9 T54 and Patton, and E50 had his small buff in HD. This need to stop. WG dont nerf tank now, they buff them. 

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Nice, just started grinding this line a couple of days ago before the news came out. Still a long way to go though( at m4 now)

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View Postares354, on 11 July 2017 - 04:08 PM, said:

 

I like E50, I lie Leo PTA, I am getting slowly to Patton, but what I dont wish to have is same tanks with dfferent skins. And this is what WG is doing on tier 10. On tier 9 they buffing very good balanced Patton, and what will be with Centurion or Type 61 ? T54 get buff as well. This is wrong, WG buff best tier 9 T54 and Patton, and E50 had his small buff in HD. This need to stop. WG dont nerf tank now, they buff them. 

 

I agree, they should focus on nerfing rather than buffing to offset for the years of only buffs they've done. 

 

But it's wargaming, so powercreep is what we'll get.



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So now that they're going around buffing every mediums turret, can the Centurions have their f*cking HD nerf reverted. 

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View Postfishbob101, on 11 July 2017 - 04:26 PM, said:

So now that they're going around buffing every mediums turret, can the Centurions have their f*cking HD nerf reverted. 

 

Centurion X have best Centurion turret made. M48 get his new turret from 1970s version, M48A5, last Patton modification. 

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Actually I too think that the turret armor buff is a bit too much. The commander cupola change is welcome and - how strange - even historical. Let's see how it goes in supertest.

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View Postspark82, on 11 July 2017 - 08:04 PM, said:

Actually I too think that the turret armor buff is a bit too much. The commander cupola change is welcome and - how strange - even historical. Let's see how it goes in supertest.

 

Why historical ? Its not. Patton had many version, which one is in game, first of all. Then talk about how much historical this tank is....

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C'mon. This is the slowest med from all the tier 10s. It needs to have some armor at least. 

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View PostEnderman21, on 11 July 2017 - 08:19 PM, said:

C'mon. This is the slowest med from all the tier 10s. It needs to have some armor at least. 

 

So buff his top speed as WG did with Centurion or FV. He dont need armor, Patton had no armor in rea life, he did not need armor. 




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