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WZ-111 5A 9.19.1

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TrelomamiasThess #1 Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:01 AM

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I think that the WZ-111 5A needs a serious buff on the armour department. This tank in the current meta is almost unplayable as it has no hull armour whatsoever. It basically is an IS-7 with a better gun and no armour, but with the new update it will also have less hp and will be slower. What do you guys think?

 

Update: After the feedback I got and a few more battles to get familiar with the tank turns out I'm wrong. Today I've played it with an open mind , remembering how much I loved the 1-4 and I'm actually pretty satisfied with this tank. Raised avg dmg to 3k and just had a 6.7k dmg game. It just needs a certain heavy playstyle that I'm not used to it.


Edited by TrelomamiasThess, 13 July 2017 - 11:50 AM.


tajj7 #2 Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:21 AM

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If you can't make a tank with 2.7k base DPM, 490 alpha, good mobility,  -7 gun depression and very good turret work the problem is you. 

 

Tank is borderline OP. 



cro001 #3 Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:26 AM

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I think you're *Edited if you liked 1-4 but you don't like 5A. Literally the same playstyle.

Edited by Nohe21, 13 July 2017 - 03:04 PM.
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Hammerhead20 #4 Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:31 AM

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Let me guess, you used your "Free XP" to get this new heavy tank?

 

And now you are disappointed with it?

 

It's only your own problem.

 

And this new heavy tanks is actually pretty "OP" if you want to know...



shishx_the_animal #5 Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:35 AM

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lol

Brownape #6 Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:40 AM

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TBH that's why i didn't bother with it. The hull armour is non-existant and, IMO, it makes it pretty futile for me. I would rather have excellent armour and be able to brawl. I'm not saying it isn't good - just quite situational and i haven't seemed one boss a game yet

TrelomamiasThess #7 Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:56 AM

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If I could average 2.8k damage on the 1-4 on 200 battles, but can't reach that on the 5A I don't think the problem is me. I hoped for a healthy debate but what were I thinking. That's the WoT community in a nutshell.

 

 



shishx_the_animal #8 Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:03 AM

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Have you considered that the MM is rigged against this new vehicle? :thinking:

HundeWurst #9 Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:19 AM

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View Postshishx_the_animal, on 13 July 2017 - 10:03 AM, said:

Have you considered that the MM is rigged against this new vehicle? :thinking:

 

ALso never forget that countless people have proven that there is that "rigged" RNG as well. Maybe buy a Fort Knox package to update your RNG again?

 



imendars #10 Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:27 AM

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Whats with all the insults?

Since when does someone needs to kiss the ground to ask questions here specially when we all troll and are as rude as we possibly can here?



lonigus #11 Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:34 AM

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A T-10 with decent gun depression, better armor and similar speed/mobility? Must be *Edited! (insert thinking emoji)

Edited by Nohe21, 13 July 2017 - 03:08 PM.
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Rati_Festa #12 Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:56 AM

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All the videos I watched for the WZ-111 5A was on the super test and the commentators mentioned that everyone sprayed gold in that environment ( is the normal server any different? ). It was getting penned like mad frontally though in the vids, the WZ-111 1-4 has the same weakness. They look and play almost identically apart from the t10 has the super high DPM. If you have played the 113 that has the same issue as well. What were you actually expecting?

TrelomamiasThess #13 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:26 AM

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Well silly me...I guess I was just angry because yesterday's battles did not go well...at all. Today I've played it with an open mind , remembering how much I loved the 1-4 and I'm actually pretty satisfied with this tank. Raised avg dmg to 3k and just had an 6.7k dmg game. It just need a certain heavy playstyle that I'm not used to it. Only similar tank I've played is the 1-4 , because when I played the T-10 (it was IS-8 btw) I was a really bad tomato (If you consider my current 1800 wn8 not tomato-like :P). 

 


Edited by TrelomamiasThess, 13 July 2017 - 11:26 AM.


EscapeArtist #14 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:28 AM

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My favourite new tX HT.

If you can't get results with it, it's you and not the tank, because the tank is really good.


Edited by EscapeArtist, 13 July 2017 - 11:29 AM.


Moppedhupe #15 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:33 AM

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Do you guys prefer the new WZ over the 113?

alienslive #16 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:36 AM

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View PostMoppedhupe, on 13 July 2017 - 10:33 AM, said:

Do you guys prefer the new WZ over the 113?

 

Some streamer said WZ is better.
If it become a new mate tank I will grind or free xp the tank.

RamRaid90 #17 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:38 AM

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The tank is literally almost identical to the 113, which is a very very good Heavium tank.

 

The only real difference is that it has far better armour all round.

 

The problem definitely lies between the keyboard and chair.

 

What you basically have is a better armoured, more mobile IS-7 with a better gun, more gun depression and more HP...

 

It is basically a buffed IS-7, which is what everyone wanted...so what is there to complain about...


Edited by RamRaid90, 13 July 2017 - 11:42 AM.


Cobra6 #18 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:40 AM

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View PostTrelomamiasThess, on 13 July 2017 - 08:56 AM, said:

If I could average 2.8k damage on the 1-4 on 200 battles, but can't reach that on the 5A I don't think the problem is me. I hoped for a healthy debate but what were I thinking. That's the WoT community in a nutshell.

 

 

 

You get a healthy debate when you don't start with a ridiculous (and false) statement like you did. If you start with a fallacy people will point it out, which is usually the end part of a debate.

 

The new WZ is far from underpowered.

 

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Homer_J #19 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:41 AM

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View Postimendars, on 13 July 2017 - 10:27 AM, said:

Whats with all the insults?

Since when does someone needs to kiss the ground to ask questions here specially when we all troll and are as rude as we possibly can here?

Lets look at the one and only question he asked.

View PostTrelomamiasThess, on 13 July 2017 - 09:01 AM, said:

 What do you guys think?

Are you suggesting we should lie?



brumbarr #20 Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:42 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 13 July 2017 - 11:38 AM, said:

The tank is literally almost identical to the 113, which is a very very good Heavium tank.

 

The only real difference is that it has far better armour all round.

You mean the 113 is much better armoured all around? 

 

Wz has the gun advantage and 113 the armor advantage.







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