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MrBananaCoffee #1 Posted 14 July 2017 - 02:24 PM

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Greetings all. Firstly, I know there's a thread for Matchmaker stuff, but I wanted this to stand out. Once enough data has been collected, then it can be farted over to the mega thread.

 

Everyone loves to complain about the Matchmaker. I do a lot. It's never balanced or it doesn't seem to work. Yelling about it is just empty noise without data to back it up, so what I've done over the past couple of days is record what battles my Tiger I has been thrust into. Now I'm not the best player or anywhere close to average, but that doesn't mean the Matchmaker should reflect this. 

 

Here is what I've found over 25 matches only using the Tiger I (I will continue to gather data and urge you to do the same then post it here):

 

Top Tier (7/6/5)       - 4   (16%)

Mid Tier (8/7/6)       - 8   (32%)

Bottom Tier (9/8/7) - 11  (44%)

High Tier (7/6)        - 1   (4%)

Low Tier (8/7)         - 1   (4%)

Same Tier (7)         - 0   (0%)

 

Even with only 25 battles, I'm seeing a concerning trend opening up. All of these matches we played after 9.19.1.

I'll be interested to see where everyone else stacks up and who keeps stealing my top tier matches. If the system really does balance this thing out, I shouldn't see another tier 9 in the next 14 battles. I doubt that.



matte40 #2 Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:27 PM

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I don't understand what is wrong in this case. On a 3-tiered game you should be bottom tier 7 out of 15 times which is 47%. So from 25 battles 44% isn't bad is it?

 

EDIT: actully if you only look at the 23 battles fought in a 3-tiered game you were bottom tier 48% of the time which is almost average. And on a 2-tiered game you should be top tier 1 out of 3 times and you were 1 out of 2.


Edited by matte40, 14 July 2017 - 03:35 PM.


MrBananaCoffee #3 Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:55 PM

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View Postmatte40, on 14 July 2017 - 03:27 PM, said:

you should be bottom tier 7 out of 15 times which is 47%

 

Where does is say that I should be spending half of my time at the bottom? Surely a balanced system would aim for 33% not 50%...

matte40 #4 Posted 14 July 2017 - 04:03 PM

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View PostMrBananaCoffee, on 14 July 2017 - 04:55 PM, said:

 

Where does is say that I should be spending half of my time at the bottom? Surely a balanced system would aim for 33% not 50%...

 

Because in one 3/5/7 match 47% of the tanks are bottom tier. If it was 5/5/5 then surely you should be bottom tier 33% of the matches.

MrBananaCoffee #5 Posted 14 July 2017 - 04:33 PM

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View Postmatte40, on 14 July 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

 

Because in one 3/5/7 match 47% of the tanks are bottom tier. If it was 5/5/5 then surely you should be bottom tier 33% of the matches.

 

Huh... I didn't think of it that way... That makes sense, although that's now annoying that I'm destined to play at the bottom in nearly half of my games... 

Thanks for clearing that up. I now feel like an idiot.



ZlatanArKung #6 Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:10 PM

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View Postmatte40, on 14 July 2017 - 04:03 PM, said:

 

Because in one 3/5/7 match 47% of the tanks are bottom tier. If it was 5/5/5 then surely you should be bottom tier 33% of the matches.

Which is why 3-5-7 is a failure. 



1ncompetenc3 #7 Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:16 PM

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Use the megathread like everyone else unless you like locked threads on the front page.

 

And if you want to test MM, you probably shouldn't be playing the same tank over and over because MM will try to find better matches if you've been bottom tier several times in a row, but only if you stick with one tank.



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 14 July 2017 - 08:10 PM, said:

Which is why 3-5-7 is a failure. 

 

I never said it wasn't.

Alabamatick #9 Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:09 PM

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View PostMrBananaCoffee, on 14 July 2017 - 03:33 PM, said:

 

Huh... I didn't think of it that way... That makes sense, although that's now annoying that I'm destined to play at the bottom in nearly half of my games... 

Thanks for clearing that up. I now feel like an idiot.

Just because it makes mathematical sense, doesn't make it fair, so no need to feel like an idiot, it's just that wg doesn't think things through before they make "improvements"

 

View Post1ncompetenc3, on 14 July 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

Use the megathread like everyone else unless you like locked threads on the front page.

 

And if you want to test MM, you probably shouldn't be playing the same tank over and over because MM will try to find better matches if you've been bottom tier several times in a row, but only if you stick with one tank.

 

Iirc, when they came up with the 3/5/7, the info blurb said the system to stop the x games in a row as bottom tier was regardless of which tank was being used

 

Edit:

 

Correction, it wasn't the info blurb, it was the 9.18 video >

 


Edited by Alabamatick, 14 July 2017 - 08:29 PM.


1ncompetenc3 #10 Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:28 PM

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View PostAlabamatick, on 14 July 2017 - 08:09 PM, said:

Iirc, when they came up with the 3/5/7, the info blurb said the system to stop the x games in a row as bottom tier was regardless of which tank was being used

 

I looked it up and you're right, which means it's even less effective than I thought. :P

Alabamatick #11 Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:31 PM

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View Post1ncompetenc3, on 14 July 2017 - 07:28 PM, said:

 

I looked it up and you're right, which means it's even less effective than I thought. :P

 

Yes, i just found the video ^ :mellow:, it's at approximately 3:55, i tried to queue it up but it didn't work :(

Edited by Alabamatick, 14 July 2017 - 10:25 PM.






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