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Drownape #1 Posted 14 July 2017 - 02:57 PM

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Hey guys. I know it's a small data set but it is what it is. So i went back and looked what missions i could complete with honours and saw a Lt mission with 2 days of prem. Completed it, added extra credit bonus then procedded to take out my T23E3 and Type 64 to grind some credits. so i had 10 battles before RL took over and the results didn't surprise me one bit.

 

EVERY single battle was tier 8, nothing top with either tank and these are consecutive battles.

 

 

Now i know there are the naysayers that say "well someone must be to tier" but i never see these players on here with evidence of regularly being top tier.

 

However i must correct myself from the other day. I quoted a number of times that I've never seen a platoon as top tier unless tier 10. Well i saw a toon of tier 7s as top tier earlier in a 3 tiered game



ZlatanArKung #2 Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:00 PM

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Welcome to WGs now improved and almost perfect MM.

Drownape #3 Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:01 PM

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Infact ive just checked my 22 games played today ranging from tier 6 to tier 9. Ive been top tier ONCE in 22 battles (type 64 in my 3rd battle of the day)

Schemezoid #4 Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:02 PM

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Blame the players on your team?

ZlatanArKung #5 Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:06 PM

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View PostSchemezoid, on 14 July 2017 - 03:02 PM, said:

Blame the players on your team?

???



Gkirmathal #6 Posted 14 July 2017 - 03:06 PM

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22 games indeed doesn't count! You need to play 500M games before you can say anything is wrong with the MM of course. Anything less could not possibly give a good indication! /s

NiemandXL #7 Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:13 PM

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"Having people be top tier is bad! Being always at the bottom means they have to shoot more gold which means more money for us! Da! That's why it's "improved matchmaking". It improved our earnings!"

 

Unnamed Wargaming employee

 

^^



HUN_volt_HUN_nem_volt #8 Posted 17 July 2017 - 09:56 AM

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It's not a WG GOLD conspiracy. The MM matches all the players on server. If there are more Tier10 and Tier9 player then Lower Tiers you will get more Tier 8 battle with Tier 6 tank. Its not the fault of WG or the MM its mathematics. If the MM matches the players as same Top tier as same Bottom tier then you have to wait long to set up a proper tier for you.

There are two choice mathematically. You play more Bottom tier or have to wait more time to play.

Choose one of algorithm.

Maybe everyone play in their own tier.



Noo_Noo #9 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:22 AM

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View PostHUN_volt_HUN_nem_volt, on 17 July 2017 - 09:56 AM, said:

Its not the fault of WG or the MM its mathematics. 

 

Sorry but who was it that set up this match making system? 

Dr Evil??? 



Bora_BOOM #10 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:23 AM

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Two days ago my first top tier game - after 16 games.

And it has kept being marvelous afterwards - with a total 3 times top tier in 26 games.

Ofc, working as intended.



Vajsravana #11 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:29 AM

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Nice, isn't it?

Tier VIII players complain because they ALWAYS play against tier X.

Tier VI players complain because they ALWAYS play against tier VIII.

 

Is there some unknown battle mode spreading from VI to X?



IncandescentGerbil #12 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:36 AM

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The only places to play nowadays are tiers 9/10 from a MM perspective. But even at X, you are more likely to see all tier X games than anything. Which is boring in itself.
Maybe things are different on the RU server. Pretty sure WG makes all of its policy decisions based on data gathered over there. All we are good for on EU is giving them shedloads of money.

Jigabachi #13 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:43 AM

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 Now i know there are the naysayers

Actually... no. Most people agree that there is still a lot of nonsense going on with the MM.

That said, it is getting slightly annoying when people come here with "Wahwahwah, WG and players say that the MM is fixed and that there are no problems. Wahwahwah." and similar deluded claims.

 



signal11th #14 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:45 AM

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Just to add to this I have played 200 tier 8 battles over the last 2 weeks, 76 battles were tier 10, 58 battles were tier 9, 40 battles were tier all tier 8 battles and the last 26 were normal tier 8 top tier .. Not very enjoyable at all.

Jigabachi #15 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:45 AM

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 Now i know there are the naysayers

Actually... no. Most people agree that there is still a lot of nonsense going on with the MM.

That said, it is getting slightly annoying when people come here with "Wahwahwah, WG and players say that the MM is fixed and that there are no problems. Wahwahwah." and similar deluded claims.

 

WG never claimed that the MM is fixed now and players are well aware about the problem. And not only since yesterday...

 



Noo_Noo #16 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:48 AM

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View PostJigabachi, on 17 July 2017 - 10:45 AM, said:

 

WG never claimed that the MM is fixed now and players are well aware about the problem. And not only since yesterday...

 

 

Perhaps a play on words but didn't WG employees say that  the "Players were happy with the new MM system" at Tankfest? 

That is a best a slightly inaccurate statement from them. 



Sfinski #17 Posted 17 July 2017 - 10:52 AM

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MM has been getting a lot of credit. From whom, have no idea....

RaxipIx #18 Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:04 AM

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I still find this MM better then what was before. Now i  am not saying it's perfect, and it does  need some improvement because tier 8--6 get's screwed.

 

And it's pretty simple why, for every 3 tier X game the MM needs to draw 7 tier 8's. Seeing both tier X and 8 is pretty popular the MM always has enough tier 8's to get.

Same goes for tier 6.

 

I'm wondering if a 4-5-6, maybe 5-5-5 template would be better so it does not put such a high strain on tier 8 and 6. Really hope WG will test this out.

 

The 4-5-6 seems the better one because for every 4 tier X game the MM needs to only draw 6 tier 8's. 



qpranger #19 Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:09 AM

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Over the last couple of weeks, having played multiple tier 8 tanks multiple times, I have had a grand total of 1 (one) battle where I was proper top tier, i.e. saw tier 6 tanks. Is this normal?

Sfinski #20 Posted 17 July 2017 - 11:16 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 17 July 2017 - 11:09 AM, said:

Over the last couple of weeks, having played multiple tier 8 tanks multiple times, I have had a grand total of 1 (one) battle where I was proper top tier, i.e. saw tier 6 tanks. Is this normal?

 

Absolutely not. That is the essence of incompetence by Wargaming.

 

//Can see Asklepi0s reading this, also can see can see WG ignoring every problem the game has and focusing crap like HD maps.


Edited by Sfinski, 17 July 2017 - 11:25 AM.





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