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Sargento_YO #1 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:02 PM

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Allright. I know that bonds can be only earned on ranked battles (which ended some weeks ago) and only the uber pro (or those which fought lots and lots and lots of battles) could earn enough bonds to buy special equipment which would make them even more pro.

So, my question is, when WG will put these to sale so those of us that are quite mediocre would stand a minimal chance against those uber pro? Say, 20.000 bonds per 10€

qpranger #2 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:16 PM

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View PostSargento_YO, on 18 July 2017 - 09:02 PM, said:

Say, 20.000 bonds per 10€.

 

You wish.

Bucifel #3 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:22 PM

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when WG will ADMIT thats a P2W game !

 

if they allow this, they simply admit this...so no escape :D


Edited by Bucifel, 18 July 2017 - 08:22 PM.


laulaur #4 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:32 PM

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People still think that those equipments  are making any difference :facepalm:

Wake up people, those equipments are better than normal ones with 2,5%. This means literally nothing, you have better stats with food consumables than having ALL 3 slots with improved equipment.

If you don't believe me, just go to tank compare in game > put same tank 2 times in compare > put improved equipment on one and regular on the other one.

You will see that in a 20 sec reload tank with ALL 3 equipments, the reload is faster with 1 second. Do you really believe that this means someone will beat you just because he has better equipment? No!

Also, i played over 600 battles in ranked for 5,700 bonds, and you want 20.000 bonds for 10€? Really?

And this just because in your opinion everyone deserves to have same things, even if they don't work for them...



Browarszky #5 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:33 PM

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I do not to see this game evolve into a P2W game. In order to see how damaging the bonds might be  in this regard, I would be willing to buy a stack of them to test it.

Bucifel #6 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:44 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 18 July 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

People still think that those equipments  are making any difference :facepalm:

Wake up people, those equipments are better than normal ones with 2,5%. This means literally nothing, you have better stats with food consumables than having ALL 3 slots with improved equipment.

If you don't believe me, just go to tank compare in game > put same tank 2 times in compare > put improved equipment on one and regular on the other one.

You will see that in a 20 sec reload tank with ALL 3 equipments, the reload is faster with 1 second. Do you really believe that this means someone will beat you just because he has better equipment? No!

Also, i played over 600 battles in ranked for 5,700 bonds, and you want 20.000 bonds for 10€? Really?

And this just because in your opinion everyone deserves to have same things, even if they don't work for them...

 

and...

when you use all this + improved equipment instead standard equipment on all 3 slots? :teethhappy:  How is this?

 

look at this...

that 2,5% is difference betwen kill or be killed when both players are one-shot, difference between spot or be spoted and difference between...standard and p2w player in today wot...:facepalm:

 

*ah...and i forgot to say...its not only 2,5...its 2,5% PER ITEM ! :) and yo ucan equip 3 items with 2,5% better stats...on ALL TANKS !

 


Edited by Bucifel, 18 July 2017 - 08:53 PM.


The_Baba_Yaga #7 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:49 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 18 July 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

People still think that those equipments  are making any difference :facepalm:

Wake up people, those equipments are better than normal ones with 2,5%. This means literally nothing, you have better stats with food consumables than having ALL 3 slots with improved equipment.

If you don't believe me, just go to tank compare in game > put same tank 2 times in compare > put improved equipment on one and regular on the other one.

You will see that in a 20 sec reload tank with ALL 3 equipments, the reload is faster with 1 second. Do you really believe that this means someone will beat you just because he has better equipment? No!

Also, i played over 600 battles in ranked for 5,700 bonds, and you want 20.000 bonds for 10€? Really?

And this just because in your opinion everyone deserves to have same things, even if they don't work for them...

 

I believe you can only use ONE item of new equipment per tank.

Sargento_YO #8 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:45 PM

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View Postlaulaur, on 18 July 2017 - 08:32 PM, said:

 

Also, i played over 600 battles in ranked for 5,700 bonds, and you want 20.000 bonds for 10€? Really?

 

 

Well, maybe not really 20.000 for 10€, but there must be some space for bargaining so we will reach the desired 15.000 for 10€ (Only 3 equipments)

Also, all those improved equipments PLUS food consumable gives you a really nice advantage.

Spurtung #9 Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:02 PM

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View PostSargento_YO, on 18 July 2017 - 10:45 PM, said:

 

Well, maybe not really 20.000 for 10€, but there must be some space for bargaining so we will reach the desired 15.000 for 10€ (Only 3 equipments)

Also, all those improved equipments PLUS food consumable gives you a really nice advantage.

 

If they ever sell bonds, don't expect to get more than 1k for those €10

1ncompetenc3 #10 Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:22 PM

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IIRC WG stated they didn't intend to sell bonds, but they were looking into ways to make them available in other ways. Basically that means they will absolutely sell them, but it'll probably be soon™ rather than soon.

Spurtung #11 Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:01 AM

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View Post1ncompetenc3, on 19 July 2017 - 12:22 AM, said:

IIRC WG stated they didn't intend to sell bonds, but they were looking into ways to make them available in other ways. Basically that means they will absolutely sell them, but it'll probably be soon™ rather than soon.

 

They only said not for gold or credits.

1ncompetenc3 #12 Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:02 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 19 July 2017 - 12:01 AM, said:

 

They only said not for gold or credits.

 

Ah, so a fourth currency will be introduced into the game. :P

I_DiD_ #13 Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:04 AM

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I hope never!

Spurtung #14 Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:08 AM

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View Post1ncompetenc3, on 19 July 2017 - 01:02 AM, said:

 

Ah, so a fourth currency will be introduced into the game. :P

 

That would be bonds.

The currency I speak of has been available ever since there's a premium shop.



1ncompetenc3 #15 Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:16 AM

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View PostSpurtung, on 19 July 2017 - 12:08 AM, said:

 

That would be bonds.

The currency I speak of has been available ever since there's a premium shop.

 

lel right, read too quick.

RamRaid90 #16 Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:30 AM

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View PostBucifel, on 18 July 2017 - 07:22 PM, said:

when WG will ADMIT thats a P2W game !

 

if they allow this, they simply admit this...so no escape :D

 

Hopw is it pay to win when you cannot purchase the new equipment? you have to be good to earn it...

 

you have a few braincells missing or something?



1ncompetenc3 #17 Posted 19 July 2017 - 12:35 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 19 July 2017 - 12:30 AM, said:

 

Hopw is it pay to win when you cannot purchase the new equipment? you have to be good to earn it...

 

you have a few braincells missing or something?

 

You don't have to be good thanks to the chevron system; you need time and a tier X tank of some kind (an SPG will do just fine), and since most people can't afford to run tier X constantly they have to buy premium time and credits packs in order to keep playing ranked, therefore buying their way to bonds in a sense and by extension adding a P2W element to the improved equipment.

RamRaid90 #18 Posted 19 July 2017 - 01:13 AM

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View Post1ncompetenc3, on 18 July 2017 - 11:35 PM, said:

 

You don't have to be good thanks to the chevron system; you need time and a tier X tank of some kind (an SPG will do just fine), and since most people can't afford to run tier X constantly they have to buy premium time and credits packs in order to keep playing ranked, therefore buying their way to bonds in a sense and by extension adding a P2W element to the improved equipment.

 

Or you could just play a couple ranked battles, then play one of the many free premium tanks wargaming have given away over the years to gain the loss back.

 

Still not pay to win.



HunterXHunter8 #19 Posted 19 July 2017 - 01:19 AM

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bonds should be awarded to any player who plays ranked in a normal sensible game.

 

but this is wot that's run by illogical wg 



Bucifel #20 Posted 19 July 2017 - 02:08 AM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 19 July 2017 - 12:30 AM, said:

 

Hopw is it pay to win when you cannot purchase the new equipment? you have to be good to earn it...

 

you have a few braincells missing or something?

 

oh..cmmon...this again..?

 

tell me mr. genius....how are you "good" in this game if you dont spam gold ammo?

and then...how can you spam gold if you dont run prem. account and buy/play prem. tanks...especially new OP ones..?

 

an then...tell me how is this not P2W if reward is only for.."good" players..?

Especially if WG will allow those stupid "rewards" for real money in future...;)


Edited by Bucifel, 19 July 2017 - 02:10 AM.






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