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the_nebuchadnezzar #1 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:48 PM

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Lately I found it difficult to find the will to play this game. So I`ve decide to grind a new line - Leopard. So, I`m now at tier 6, with few more games away from unlock the tier 7. Since, usually, I most play tier 8 and above, playing lower was somehow a new experience if I may say so. Anyway, I did enjoy it. But I`ve discover a pattern: with very few exceptions, ALL Type64 players shot gold at my tank. Indeed, the Type64 have some crap pen on the standard ammo, but VK 30.01D is good at many things - not bounce shot, no matter what kind of ammo you use. 80mm of armor is like auto-pen for every tier 6. And yet, Type64 drivers could not care less about this fact and keep pumping gold into me. Strangely, or better yet, not strange at all, those they did spam gold like there is no tomorrow where all very good players. At least when it comes to WR. So, is the Type64 a tank for sealclubbing and hype stats?! Or it`s just me? 

Schepel #2 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:51 PM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 18 July 2017 - 08:48 PM, said:

Lately I found it difficult to find the will to play this game. So I`ve decide to grind a new line - Leopard. So, I`m now at tier 6, with few more games away from unlock the tier 7. Since, usually, I most play tier 8 and above, playing lower was somehow a new experience if I may say so. Anyway, I did enjoy it. But I`ve discover a pattern: with very few exceptions, ALL Type64 players shot gold at my tank. Indeed, the Type64 have some crap pen on the standard ammo, but VK 30.01D is good at many things - not bounce shot, no matter what kind of ammo you use. 80mm of armor is like auto-pen for every tier 6. And yet, Type64 drivers could not care less about this fact and keep pumping gold into me. Strangely, or better yet, not strange at all, those they did spam gold like there is no tomorrow where all very good players. At least when it comes to WR. So, is the Type64 a tank for sealclubbing and hype stats?! Or it`s just me? 

 

The AP is fairly rubbish, so a lot of tryhard players run full apcr. I tend to play mine with 25 AP and 20 APCR - even though I am trying to get that third MOE, making money remains the number one priority. However, I am a fool. :-)

ZlatanArKung #3 Posted 18 July 2017 - 08:57 PM

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I run mine with 31 ap, 10 apcr, 4 HE. But sometimes I don't have enough AP so I have to shoot APCR.

 

3rd mark done of course :P


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 18 July 2017 - 08:57 PM.


junglist443 #4 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:00 PM

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If you say they can pen you no matter what ammo they shoot, why do you care if they shoot prem or not ?

Schepel #5 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:04 PM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 18 July 2017 - 08:57 PM, said:

I run mine with 31 ap, 10 apcr, 4 HE. But sometimes I don't have enough AP so I have to shoot APCR.

 

3rd mark done of course :P

 

Why the HE?

ZlatanArKung #6 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:08 PM

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View PostSchepel, on 18 July 2017 - 09:04 PM, said:

 

Why the HE?

For the enemy Type 64. A relic from T6 SH mostly that I haven't removed yet.

 

But penning HE on Borsig is fun.


Edited by ZlatanArKung, 18 July 2017 - 09:08 PM.


The_Baba_Yaga #7 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:10 PM

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The hordes of O-I in game probably doesn't help plus only 45 shells to play with.

250swb #8 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:20 PM

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Not much ammo to start with for a fast firing gun, so with the current MM you have to load anticipating at least a tier VIII game, which means there isn't much luxury in being able to pick and choose ammo. I use about half AP and half APCR but often regret not just loading full APCR as you can still make a profit and AP can be pretty anaemic against a heavy. APCR also gives you the increased velocity for hitting long range moving targets, something the tank excels at.

gpalsson #9 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:46 PM

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Oh no, for reals? I thought people shot HE and rammed with it mostly.

The_Baba_Yaga #10 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:52 PM

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Spare a thought for the poor AMX 12t who has only 36 shells and 2.5 secs between (4) shots (Type 64 has about 2.8 secs between shots ) AND then has to reload it's drum for another 19 secs. A tank that really needs a buff.

WindSplitter1 #11 Posted 18 July 2017 - 09:52 PM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 18 July 2017 - 07:48 PM, said:

Lately I found it difficult to find the will to play this game. So I`ve decide to grind a new line - Leopard. So, I`m now at tier 6, with few more games away from unlock the tier 7. Since, usually, I most play tier 8 and above, playing lower was somehow a new experience if I may say so. Anyway, I did enjoy it. But I`ve discover a pattern: with very few exceptions, ALL Type64 players shot gold at my tank. Indeed, the Type64 have some crap pen on the standard ammo, but VK 30.01D is good at many things - not bounce shot, no matter what kind of ammo you use. 80mm of armor is like auto-pen for every tier 6. And yet, Type64 drivers could not care less about this fact and keep pumping gold into me. Strangely, or better yet, not strange at all, those they did spam gold like there is no tomorrow where all very good players. At least when it comes to WR. So, is the Type64 a tank for sealclubbing and hype stats?! Or it`s just me? 

 

1 - They're Dingers using skill ammo Dinger ammo

2 - They're noobs using "skill" gold ammo

3 - They're carrying and ran out of git gud ammo normal ammo

4 - They're shooting gold because they know someone will whine on the boards

5 - They're aware of their normal ammo limitations and switched to gold ammo instead

6 - They're using "skill" gold ammo just because

 

Not much else to go to. Besides reasons.



theSwedishTankDriver #12 Posted 18 July 2017 - 10:08 PM

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1. HE is useless (as any other low caliber gun) and low ammo capacity means you shouldn't take any of it at all.

2. AP has low penetration with bad velocity.

3. Rather bad accuracy. so you can't relably hit any weakspots.

4. APCR isn't very good anyways.

 

I run 35 APCR / 10 AP / 0 HE


Edited by theSwedishTankDriver, 18 July 2017 - 10:08 PM.


Balc0ra #13 Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:20 PM

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View Postthe_nebuchadnezzar, on 18 July 2017 - 08:48 PM, said:

 ALL Type64 players shot gold at my tank. Indeed, the Type64 have some crap pen on the standard ammo, but VK 30.01D is good at many things - not bounce shot, no matter what kind of ammo you use. 80mm of armor is like auto-pen for every tier 6.

 

Then why do you care? If he could pen you regardless. Why get upset? Just be happy he did not treat you like a cheap date. But put some class on it by spending money.

 

Then again most do run a fair bit of gold on their load. As in between 10 and 20 rounds. And late game after wasting all their AP rounds. It's not uncommon to notice one spam gold. Because that's all he has. That and most use it for the shell speed alone on medium to long distance. Not because they need the "pen". As it's AP rounds are not known for it's shell speed, so you have to lead targets rather well with it. Pressing 2, you don't even need to do that.



ZlatanArKung #14 Posted 18 July 2017 - 11:22 PM

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View PosttheSwedishTankDriver, on 18 July 2017 - 10:08 PM, said:

1. HE is useless (as any other low caliber gun) and low ammo capacity means you shouldn't take any of it at all.

2. AP has low penetration with bad velocity.

3. Rather bad accuracy. so you can't relably hit any weakspots.

4. APCR isn't very good anyways.

 

I run 35 APCR / 10 AP / 0 HE

But then you are a try-hard aswell.

We mere casuals run 30-35 AP, 10-15 APCR. 



thestaggy #15 Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:01 AM

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Tryhards statpadding.

 

 



Tyrgrim #16 Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:47 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 18 July 2017 - 11:22 PM, said:

But then you are a try-hard aswell.

We mere casuals run 30-35 AP, 10-15 APCR. 

 

Well we can always try and argue that the game is not P2W. The real definition is "Pay more, win more" Remember that next time you start grinding a new line, dont forget to load out that T1 tank with 100% premium. Got to keep those stats up.

Zodiac1960s #17 Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:54 AM

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Is that so? Then my kv2 will be judge, jury and executioner tomorrow.  I have a feeling I'll execute a couple of T-34-85m's too.

Can't wait! :trollface:

Pandabird #18 Posted 19 July 2017 - 06:55 AM

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I keep running out of AP because of massive RoF and low ammo capacity.

Low alpha means i need more apcr vs high health heavies.

So a type usually runs 50/50 but since it's a prem it might as well go all the way and run full gold, saves you the inconvenience of switching ammo.

ZlatanArKung #19 Posted 19 July 2017 - 07:07 AM

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View PostTyrgrim, on 19 July 2017 - 06:47 AM, said:

 

Well we can always try and argue that the game is not P2W. The real definition is "Pay more, win more" Remember that next time you start grinding a new line, dont forget to load out that T1 tank with 100% premium. Got to keep those stats up.

 

Next T1 I play will be for the next nation to be added.

 

Or when WG finally fiX the average badge mechanics at T1 and T2 so I can ace the few T1 I haven't aced yet.



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View PostZlatanArKung, on 19 July 2017 - 08:07 AM, said:

 

Next T1 I play will be for the next nation to be added.

 

Or when WG finally fiX the average badge mechanics at T1 and T2 so I can ace the few T1 I haven't aced yet.

 

They haven't fixed it for over a year, probably won't because they don't care. All lowtier developement going towards introducing mittengrad to hightiers.







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