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Taifu_Noodle #1 Posted 19 July 2017 - 03:51 PM

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My last game in which is was in a TOP TIER tank was 3 days ago, or to put another way, 35 games ago.

 

THIRTY FIVE GAMES AGO!

 

To add a little more context to my RNG battering, I play tanks from all classifications from tier 4 to tier 8. I have recorded my game tiers in a spreadsheet to dial out my natural bias.

 

Now I have this (for the want of a better word) evidence, i'm asking myself: Why exactly am I continuing to be the xp pinata, the game content, for others?

 

WHEN IS MY TURN TO HAVE THE INNATE ADVANTAGE??



Enforcer1975 #2 Posted 19 July 2017 - 05:17 PM

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View PostTaifu_Noodle, on 19 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

WHEN IS MY TURN TO HAVE THE INNATE ADVANTAGE??

When you get your first tier 10 tank?



unhappy_bunny #3 Posted 19 July 2017 - 10:39 PM

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View PostTaifu_Noodle, on 19 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

 

 Why exactly am I continuing to be the xp pinata, the game content, for others?

 

 

So you consider the other tiers in your team as of no consequence? Top Tier is all that matters is it?

While I agree that 35 battles may seem unreasonable not having the top spot, it isn't (or shouldn't be) the end of the world. 

I enjoy a lot of battles as mid or bottom tier. 



Private_Pearts #4 Posted 19 July 2017 - 10:47 PM

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View PostTaifu_Noodle, on 19 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

My last game in which is was in a TOP TIER tank was 3 days ago, or to put another way, 35 games ago.

 

THIRTY FIVE GAMES AGO!

 

To add a little more context to my RNG battering, I play tanks from all classifications from tier 4 to tier 8. I have recorded my game tiers in a spreadsheet to dial out my natural bias.

 

Now I have this (for the want of a better word) evidence, i'm asking myself: Why exactly am I continuing to be the xp pinata, the game content, for others?

 

WHEN IS MY TURN TO HAVE THE INNATE ADVANTAGE??

 

You're pissing in the wind buddy. I feel your pain. When folk can't think of any way this can be right or proper they find some other way to stick up for WG and I don't get it at all. I pay these buggers enough without blowing sunshine up their Edited into the bargain.


 

I mean I've had a lot of great battles when I have been bottom or mid tier it is true but that doesn't answer your question.


 

 

Either WG are forcing us to grind to tier 10 whether we like it or not or they have screwed up. Again.


Edited by Asklepi0s, 20 July 2017 - 01:51 PM.
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Hedgehog1963 #5 Posted 19 July 2017 - 10:49 PM

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Don't believe OP.

Captain_Kremen0 #6 Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:09 PM

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Bollocks

Jigabachi #7 Posted 19 July 2017 - 11:12 PM

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View PostTaifu_Noodle, on 19 July 2017 - 03:51 PM, said:

35 games ago.

I don't believe you.

You really don't need lies to point out that the MM sucks. And I don't mean the new MM, it's the MM in general, as these problems already existed before the changes.


Edited by Jigabachi, 19 July 2017 - 11:12 PM.


malachi6 #8 Posted 20 July 2017 - 12:51 PM

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If I can make point without it construed as coming to WG's defence?

 

All data sets have outliers.  This is basically how you arrive at an average.  Things is very few people achieve the average.  It sucks when the variance is against you.  Things is, on average :hiding:, things will balance over time.



DracheimFlug #9 Posted 20 July 2017 - 12:58 PM

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Only 3 tanks in the match are top tier. And they are likely not all impossible for you to pen or deal with. They may well be lightly armoured. They are very likely to be driven by idiots, since most teams are comprised of idiots. Why do they scare you so?

Gkirmathal #10 Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:06 PM

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View Postunhappy_bunny, on 19 July 2017 - 09:39 PM, said:

 

So you consider the other tiers in your team as of no consequence? Top Tier is all that matters is it?

While I agree that 35 battles may seem unreasonable not having the top spot, it isn't (or shouldn't be) the end of the world. 

I enjoy a lot of battles as mid or bottom tier. 

 

It is all about how balanced and how healthy the distribution is. Current distribution of being B/M/T is unbalanced (due to the 3/5/7 having the heaviest weight) and that makes it unhealthy for this game.

 

And the less games you play per day/week, the more apparent this imbalance get to the observer.


Edited by Gkirmathal, 20 July 2017 - 01:09 PM.


HidesHisFace #11 Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:13 PM

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View PostHedgehog1963, on 19 July 2017 - 10:49 PM, said:

Don't believe OP.

 

And I do. In a run of 24 games I played, only 2 were top tier, but 18 (that is 75%) were bottom tier. 

In other words - a streak of 35 games without a single top tier game is entirely possible with this travesty of a Matchmaking


Edited by HidesHisFace, 20 July 2017 - 01:13 PM.


malachi6 #12 Posted 20 July 2017 - 01:45 PM

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View PostHidesHisFace, on 20 July 2017 - 01:13 PM, said:

 

And I do. In a run of 24 games I played, only 2 were top tier, but 18 (that is 75%) were bottom tier. 

In other words - a streak of 35 games without a single top tier game is entirely possible with this travesty of a Matchmaking

 

 

Can you admit that a minimum of 20% of players do get to be top tier?  Then factor in tier X and IX then factor in battles with only 2 or one tier.  This figures may be accurate but they are outliers.



Ze_HOFF_fverhoef #13 Posted 20 July 2017 - 02:00 PM

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Buy yourself a Valentine II, and you can be top tier in all your battles.

Dragonlordcv #14 Posted 20 July 2017 - 02:00 PM

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View PostJigabachi, on 19 July 2017 - 10:12 PM, said:

I don't believe you.

You really don't need lies to point out that the MM sucks. And I don't mean the new MM, it's the MM in general, as these problems already existed before the changes.

 

With all do respect Jigabachi the T8 mess is feature of the new MM and at least personally have quit playing this tier and sold the majority of T8 tanks that i had. And as of numbers 8 out of 10 facing T10 and the rest same tier. T7&6 is non existent thus the new MM is +2 at least for me. The only exception was (i sold it) isu 152 that was top tier in 3 out of 10 approx.

PowJay #15 Posted 20 July 2017 - 05:07 PM

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Bottom tier battles...

 

http://wotreplays.co...ay-type_5_ke-ho

http://wotreplays.co...owjay-marder_ii

http://wotreplays.co...ay-powjay-t-150

http://wotreplays.co...powjay-crusader

 

Admittedly only a small selection of battles, but the ones I remember most of all. 



Bigtime_Alarm #16 Posted 20 July 2017 - 07:27 PM

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What makes you think WOT was ever fun or fair. You are there to be slaughtered for the glory of the invincible wonder men, and you are certainly not expected to get any fun out of it




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