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What tank should I take?

  1. M48A1 Patton (25 votes [42.37%])

    Percentage of vote: 42.37%

  2. E50M (34 votes [57.63%])

    Percentage of vote: 57.63%

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anonym_YNch2j0j5oJ9 #1 Posted 20 July 2017 - 08:52 PM

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So I fell into.. a pot of gold shall we say.  I am the "proud:trollface:" owner of 20k gold and with the 1 gold → 35 exp converting sale next weekend... I wana take an entire tier 10 line, it is enough gold since i am in both the E50M and M48A1 Patton line at tier 5-6s so.. i can take one of them next weekend. I don't want to grind all those terrible lower tiers especially with the bad matchmaking etc..

I aint a great player and in my eyes i think that the Patton can carry games a lot better than the E50M but the player shouldn't suck, while the E50M carries less but is more noob friendly?

 

So, E50M or M48A1 Patton? Keep in mind the 250mm~ buff to turret armor of the Patton in the next patch possibly with the smaller cupola, i want to: Carry games, have fun, and do good scores. So what do you guys think i should take?


Edited by Press2ForSkill, 05 August 2017 - 05:31 PM.


JuliusCheddar #2 Posted 20 July 2017 - 08:59 PM

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Right now E50m, but after buff definitely Patton 

RamRaid90 #3 Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:00 PM

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M48 patton is going to fast become one of the strongest medium tanks again when it recieves that well deserved turret buff.

 

Definitely worth buying.

 

But it depends on your general play style.

 

It's thought by some that the M48 Patton is the tank you play when you really want to learn how to play a medium tank well. Very difficult to master but exceptional in the right hands.

 

The E50M is more of an in your face ramming tank. Designed to ram even the biggest of heavy tanks for maximum effect. Far more suited to the aggressive player, as the Patton will require a much more cautious playstyle.



anonym_YNch2j0j5oJ9 #4 Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:31 PM

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View PostRamRaid90, on 20 July 2017 - 10:00 PM, said:

M48 patton is going to fast become one of the strongest medium tanks again when it recieves that well deserved turret buff.

 

Definitely worth buying.

 

But it depends on your general play style.

 

It's thought by some that the M48 Patton is the tank you play when you really want to learn how to play a medium tank well. Very difficult to master but exceptional in the right hands.

 

The E50M is more of an in your face ramming tank. Designed to ram even the biggest of heavy tanks for maximum effect. Far more suited to the aggressive player, as the Patton will require a much more cautious playstyle.

Exactly what i thought. Im at that awkward level between bad and good so idk if i should get patton.  It looks extremely smooth .. but the buff to it in 9.20 .. i think i am leaning towards the patton 



JuliusCheddar #5 Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:40 PM

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Wait, by "next weekend" you mean 22-23 July or next one? 

XxKuzkina_MatxX #6 Posted 20 July 2017 - 09:53 PM

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Unless you want a turret with around 180 mm of flat frontal armor then it is the Patton all the way.It's easy M'kay :)

 



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View PostPress2ForSkill, on 20 July 2017 - 08:31 PM, said:

Exactly what i thought. Im at that awkward level between bad and good so idk if i should get patton.  It looks extremely smooth .. but the buff to it in 9.20 .. i think i am leaning towards the patton 

 

I would to.

 

At the moment the patton has a very specific playstyle, with a very high skill cap. This buff will allow to to play a much more open role with much more versatility and bring it more into each battle. It'll become the best support role medium tank in the game imo.

 

Personally it has to be the Patton (i'm also heading up there at the moment)

 

I have never really looked at the line because its one of those (similar to the Russian IS-7 heavy line) that didn't really have an appealing end product.


Edited by RamRaid90, 20 July 2017 - 09:56 PM.


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I really like the patton. Of course, the 50M is a beast in the right hands and the ability to ram tanks is a fun factor one should not disregard, even so, the Patton would be my choice.

anonym_YNch2j0j5oJ9 #9 Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:20 PM

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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 20 July 2017 - 10:40 PM, said:

Wait, by "next weekend" you mean 22-23 July or next one? 

Nope. 29-30 july



250swb #10 Posted 20 July 2017 - 10:22 PM

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It is a pretty stupid Poll because the Patton is about to get a major buff in the next patch, so you vote one way now, and you'd possibly vote another way then. What do we learn by that?

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View PostRamRaid90, on 20 July 2017 - 10:53 PM, said:

 

I would to.

 

At the moment the patton has a very specific playstyle, with a very high skill cap. This buff will allow to to play a much more open role with much more versatility and bring it more into each battle. It'll become the best support role medium tank in the game imo.

 

Personally it has to be the Patton (i'm also heading up there at the moment)

 

I have never really looked at the line because its one of those (similar to the Russian IS-7 heavy line) that didn't really have an appealing end product.

I wish i could take both lines but meh. I agree with everything u say. E50M might be a 1 trick poney that might possibly get bored if u play it too much, while  the patton always adapts better to situations. So yeah i think im going for patton. My friends say e50m but.. I'll take that in  a few months i guess. Patton will make me a better player in the long-run than the e50M would



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View Post250swb, on 20 July 2017 - 11:22 PM, said:

It is a pretty stupid Poll because the Patton is about to get a major buff in the next patch, so you vote one way now, and you'd possibly vote another way then. What do we learn by that?

Maybe if u read my post... u would realise that i typed that u must keep in mind about the patton buffs before u vote



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View PostPress2ForSkill, on 20 July 2017 - 10:26 PM, said:

Maybe if u read my post... u would realise that i typed that u must keep in mind about the patton buffs before u vote

 

I did, so where is the tick box for 'I would wait'?

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View PostPress2ForSkill, on 20 July 2017 - 09:24 PM, said:

I wish i could take both lines but meh. I agree with everything u say. E50M might be a 1 trick poney that might possibly get bored if u play it too much, while  the patton always adapts better to situations. So yeah i think im going for patton. My friends say e50m but.. I'll take that in  a few months i guess. Patton will make me a better player in the long-run than the e50M would

 

Thinking of E50M as one trick poney is really really wrong dude. Its actually true opposite. E50M is very versatile tank which can do much more than others. If you know about angling you can play in front line. You have second most accurate gun with highest penetration on med, so sniping is possible. While not that fast you still have mobility enough to flex around the battlefield. Ramming is cherry on top, its actually not that usefull as people think. But in generall you are never useless redardless of map or MM, unlike specialist like Leo or STB. Patton is kinda oposite, it should have good gunhundling, view range and DPM, but rest is still mediocore (Im not owner of one, so might be incorrect). Even with turret buff its still depends on your ability to hide hull and use DPM (which is what people refer to good player skill). But on flat city map you are have no trick in sleeve where E50M can work fine. Plus its not that easy to use DPM in this meta.

So in the end from what I can see E50M is much more often vehicle of the choice especially for its capabilities. If there is danger of getting bored of tank, its much higher in case of Patton. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying Patton is bad tank, but E50M is far from boring one trick ponney rammer as somebody think.


 

Sidenote: I'd freexped E50M. Not because of performance, but because some tanks of the line (Tier 6 and 7) are pretty bad while patton grind is much smoother as the line has no craptanks and playstyle is more or less the same. Or dont freexp whole line, but unlock tier 9s - E50 is pretty awesome vehicle and patton should be fun as well. For me E50 is still best choice when I want some realax and fun in game.


Edited by Dropman12, 21 July 2017 - 08:40 AM.


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View PostPress2ForSkill, on 20 July 2017 - 10:24 PM, said:

I wish i could take both lines but meh. I agree with everything u say. E50M might be a 1 trick poney that might possibly get bored if u play it too much, while  the patton always adapts better to situations. So yeah i think im going for patton. My friends say e50m but.. I'll take that in  a few months i guess. Patton will make me a better player in the long-run than the e50M would

 

Like the post above said, e50m can do things in almost any situations, but you need to be good at doing all of those roles, that's my 2 cent. Don't have Patton but I guess both are good and it's probably only about free-exping crap tanks along the lines (which e50m line have quite a few).



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View Post250swb, on 21 July 2017 - 09:15 AM, said:

 

I did, so where is the tick box for 'I would wait'?

My post clearly said" Keep in mind the 250mm~ buff to turret armor of the Patton in the next patch possibly with the smaller cupola " So any person with a decent IQ would vote while keeping that in mind.. 

 

View PostDropman12, on 21 July 2017 - 09:39 AM, said:

 

Thinking of E50M as one trick poney is really really wrong dude. Its actually true opposite. E50M is very versatile tank which can do much more than others. If you know about angling you can play in front line. You have second most accurate gun with highest penetration on med, so sniping is possible. While not that fast you still have mobility enough to flex around the battlefield. Ramming is cherry on top, its actually not that usefull as people think. But in generall you are never useless redardless of map or MM, unlike specialist like Leo or STB. Patton is kinda oposite, it should have good gunhundling, view range and DPM, but rest is still mediocore (Im not owner of one, so might be incorrect). Even with turret buff its still depends on your ability to hide hull and use DPM (which is what people refer to good player skill). But on flat city map you are have no trick in sleeve where E50M can work fine. Plus its not that easy to use DPM in this meta.

So in the end from what I can see E50M is much more often vehicle of the choice especially for its capabilities. If there is danger of getting bored of tank, its much higher in case of Patton. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying Patton is bad tank, but E50M is far from boring one trick ponney rammer as somebody think.


 

Sidenote: I'd freexped E50M. Not because of performance, but because some tanks of the line (Tier 6 and 7) are pretty bad while patton grind is much smoother as the line has no craptanks and playstyle is more or less the same. Or dont freexp whole line, but unlock tier 9s - E50 is pretty awesome vehicle and patton should be fun as well. For me E50 is still best choice when I want some realax and fun in game.

But the E50M doesnt have excellent gun depression (it has 8 but because of it having such a huge hull... it feels kinda awkward?) to work the ridge lines where there are quite a lot of... i think patton will make me a better player than the e50m will, i feel like the E50M with 185mm turret... meh.. 185mm anything it meets will pen it, while the patton with 250mm turret will bounce a lot more. I feel like the patton is a lot more flexible etc and can adjust better, all the really good players have it, i asked amazing player which tier 10 i should take that isnt russian or any autoloaders and he said Patton, E5, and then e50m... so really i have no idea, luckily i have another 7 days to decide, or even longer actually. in 7 days is the time that i actually convert the exp, so luckily i have the time to think.

And although the Patton  line has decent tanks.. none of them are "good", they are all average. Tier 5 i simply don't play. I hate low tiers, tier 6 meh. tier 7 meh. And tier 8 pershing? It is a tier 8 medium - enough said. It is already a terrible class at tier 8, nevermind the fact that the mm is totally screwed up.. maybe i take the tier 9 E50 with free exp and the rest of the free exp goes to jgpze100 (at tier 9 in that line currently so im close but i hate Jagdtiger.) but as i said: i have a lot of time to make my mind up.



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I have both and I am just more comfortable in the 50M.  I love the entire Patton line and the M46 is one of my best and favorite tanks.  I just can't find the same groove for the M48 as I can for the 50M.  The 50M is an all-around excellent tank that I feel is better than the M48 in my opinion.

 

In Frontline testing, I absolutely loved the M48.  It was by far the best medium for that game mode for me.  For that reason the M48 remains in my garage.



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You all say that Patton turret will be buffed to 250mm, but will it be on the mantlet, like happened in the past with T26 series, o on the primary armor?

Thank you! :)



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View PostEltvilleTiger, on 21 July 2017 - 05:03 PM, said:

I have both and I am just more comfortable in the 50M.  I love the entire Patton line and the M46 is one of my best and favorite tanks.  I just can't find the same groove for the M48 as I can for the 50M.  The 50M is an all-around excellent tank that I feel is better than the M48 in my opinion.

 

In Frontline testing, I absolutely loved the M48.  It was by far the best medium for that game mode for me.  For that reason the M48 remains in my garage.

 

I think the difference is all between playstyles... E50M has good UFP, can side scrape, can ram.... while the M48 Patton has a good turret and feels slightly more flexible? I think that the E50M is more noob friendly than the M48 Patton. Amazing players will do better in Patton than in theE50M, while average players will do better in E50M than in the Patton.. and im between those 2 categories i think, and i love the characteristics of both tanks, Good turret nice, good UFP and side scraping nice, ramming nice, flexibility nice, (both) gun handling nice.. I wish the 9.20 test servers could come!! :/ I never really tested the Pattons but did rather well in the E50M line..

View PostDava_117, on 21 July 2017 - 06:46 PM, said:

You all say that Patton turret will be buffed to 250mm, but will it be on the mantlet, like happened in the past with T26 series, o on the primary armor?

Thank you! :)

 

It will be all over the front of the turret 250mm armor buff, u could see it in the pictures of 9.20 changes...

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I wiuld get e50m now  and grind credits for patton as and when it gets buffed

 







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