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FireflyDivision #1 Posted 23 July 2017 - 08:05 PM

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If your impression of the title is the following:

 

Afbeeldingsresultaat voor black man question mark

then please check this thread: http://forum.worldof...ding-clan-wars/

 


 

As you were told earlier: the meeting was supposed to take place at the end of this month. And that's exactly what's going to happen. The meeting will take place on July 26th! A delegation of the CONTRAS movement will go to WG's Minsk office and supposedly meet with Vyacheslav Makarov, the head of the office. 

 

So who's in that delegation?

 

Maxim "Emperer", Executive Officer of P_BY, #1 clan on RU

Maxim "Argentum_Stellata", Commander of ARGST,  #2 clan on RU

Eli "Ahrpad", Commander of IS (no, not that one), #55 clan on RU

Alexander "Kvir1N", Commander of MAFIA, #50 clan on RU

Vasilisa "Vasyao_", Commander of MOVE, #26 clan on RU

 

I used the official WG clan ratings for this. If you're going to look these clans up on Wot-life, then remember that it will say 0 battles in the last 30 days for most members in the members list, and if you look at the members one by one, it's going to give you crazy high numbers such as 4k battes in the last 7 days. So it's unreliable. I'm just saying this to avoid people from saying "huh??? but all these clans are dead???".

 

Unfortunately, WG didn't invite any EU players for the meeting. All we can do now is wish these guys good luck and hope that they will manage to do something for us, as they're bringing a document with them which describes the EU's wishes. I can imagine that it may be extremely difficult for them to convince WG, however, let's hope for the best.

 

So hereby I wish them good luck. May CWs become great again.

 

 



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View PostFireflyDivision, on 23 July 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

 I can imagine that it may be extremely difficult for them to convince WG, however, let's hope for the best.

 


So i understand that WG thinks eveything is great and actually they dont care what contras want to say



FireflyDivision #3 Posted 23 July 2017 - 08:17 PM

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View PostAncymon0, on 23 July 2017 - 08:15 PM, said:


So i understand that WG thinks eveything is great and actually they dont care what contras want to say

 

I'm saying that my confidence isn't epicly high for the simple fact that they made alot of changes to CW in the last years without consulting the players.

 

But maybe they want to change that. We'll see.



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Cant we send armandio to the meeting?

Corruption_Clan #5 Posted 23 July 2017 - 08:57 PM

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Pretty embarrassing that there is no one at this meeting to represent EU servers

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View PostCorruption_Clan, on 23 July 2017 - 08:57 PM, said:

Pretty embarrassing that there is no one at this meeting to represent EU servers

 

Why? 

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View PostCorruption_Clan, on 23 July 2017 - 08:57 PM, said:

Pretty embarrassing that there is no one at this meeting to represent EU servers

 

I would love to see that one engrish speaking guy trying to argue with the full russian bunch :teethhappy:

Cobra6 #8 Posted 23 July 2017 - 09:43 PM

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Lets hope WG listens to the players, the good ones, not only the ones with money.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 23 July 2017 - 09:44 PM.


FireflyDivision #9 Posted 23 July 2017 - 09:56 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 23 July 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

Lets hope WG listens to the players, the good ones, not only the ones with money.

 

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This isn't a matter of just listening to the "good" players though. Our ideas are balanced and are signed by both "good" and "bad" clans. 

Edited by FireflyDivision, 23 July 2017 - 10:22 PM.


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View PostFireflyDivision, on 23 July 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

 

Unfortunately, WG didn't invite any EU players for the meeting.

 

 

Thing is, all those Russian guys are paying for themselves, they said they won't take anything from WG to keep neutral grounds.

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View Post_EXODUZ_, on 23 July 2017 - 10:54 PM, said:

 

Thing is, all those Russian guys are paying for themselves, they said they won't take anything from WG to keep neutral grounds.

 

We'll see. We don't have any other options anyway. 


To me, they said they'll tell WG about our desires. I spent alot of time with them on cooperating on this matter. Like I wrote in the document: RU and EU CWs don't exactly have to be the same.

 

Besides... even if they don't listen to EU at all, we'll still end up with a better CW gamemode...


Edited by FireflyDivision, 23 July 2017 - 11:09 PM.


Mariuxszas #12 Posted 24 July 2017 - 06:19 AM

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View PostFireflyDivision, on 23 July 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

Unfortunately, WG didn't invite any EU players for the meeting. I can imagine that it may be extremely difficult for them to convince WG, however, let's hope for the best.

 

In this video two of CONTRAS leaders are talking with russian streamer LeBwa about this movement. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0O0x563Y8w

 

They mentioned that someone from EU region was supposed to go to the meeting, but they couldn't due to logistical? issues. 
So someone of you is lying. 

 

View PostFireflyDivision, on 23 July 2017 - 08:05 PM, said:

I can imagine that it may be extremely difficult for them to convince WG, however, let's hope for the best.

View PostAncymon0, on 23 July 2017 - 08:15 PM, said:


So i understand that WG thinks eveything is great and actually they dont care what contras want to say

 

In the video i mentioned above they say that WG reacted very quickly to the movement of CONTRAS and invited to meet quite fast. They interpret that as willingness of WG to cooperate with players, as they think that WG might understand that ClanWars went wrong way and wants to fix it this time with the help of community.

 

View PostCobra6, on 23 July 2017 - 09:43 PM, said:

Lets hope WG listens to the players, the good ones, not only the ones with money.

 

The CW and whole clan activity is on the completely other level. Their alliances are sponsored by real sponsors (like football teams or other). Those sponsors pay for field commanders or clan commanders for their work in clan pushing them towards victories, so the clan tactics of those clans climb to higher level. 

In the video i mentioned above one of CONTRAS leaders mentions that it is known that one of the sponsors has invested more that 1,000,000$ into clans. 
Also every second person in whole Russia has played WoT at least once, this is why everything there is on completely new level. 

So I think that WG has some desire to listen to those CONTRAS leaders and make some changes accordingly.



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View PostMariuxszas, on 24 July 2017 - 06:19 AM, said:

 

The CW and whole clan activity is on the completely other level. Their alliances are sponsored by real sponsors (like football teams or other). Those sponsors pay for field commanders or clan commanders for their work in clan pushing them towards victories, so the clan tactics of those clans climb to higher level. 

In the video i mentioned above one of CONTRAS leaders mentions that it is known that one of the sponsors has invested more that 1,000,000$ into clans.

 

Well, thats [edited]interesting.

 

It makes sense WG is listening to sponsors, who invested millions in WoT. And WG has nothing to lose by just meeting/listening with those guys. What happens afterwards is much more interesting to me. And not just specific changes for CW but if there is a general change in handling the eSports-community and in what direction they wanna go.



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View PostSilas001, on 24 July 2017 - 07:03 AM, said:

 

Well, thats [edited]interesting.

 

It makes sense WG is listening to sponsors, who invested millions in WoT. And WG has nothing to lose by just meeting/listening with those guys. What happens afterwards is much more interesting to me. And not just specific changes for CW but if there is a general change in handling the eSports-community and in what direction they wanna go.

 

I should have mentioned that the money from sponsors goes not to WoT, but to teams and commanders, this kind of stuff. WG doesn't receive any money from sponsors. At least thats how i understood the speakers from that video.

Edited by Mariuxszas, 24 July 2017 - 07:30 AM.


armandio #15 Posted 24 July 2017 - 07:29 AM

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View PostDomstadtsOnkel, on 23 July 2017 - 09:21 PM, said:

Cant we send armandio to the meeting?

 

I wish I could.Sry.

My time management said, I am busy 26th July.Sry.

View PostFireflyDivision, on 23 July 2017 - 10:56 PM, said:

 

This isn't a matter of just listening to the "good" players though. Our ideas are balanced and are signed by both "good" and "bad" clans. 

 

Our ideas?!? :teethhappy:

All were Your ideas.

Your ideas balanced? What balance You talk about?

You draw 1 big square and split it in 4 smaller squares, different sizes and said: "That is new GM.":teethhappy:

 



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View Postarmandio, on 24 July 2017 - 07:29 AM, said:

Our ideas?!? :teethhappy:

All were Your ideas.

Your ideas balanced? What balance You talk about?

You draw 1 big square and split it in 4 smaller squares, different sizes and said: "That is new GM.":teethhappy:

 

I'm not 100% sure, but I think I didn't find your suggestions for better system than proposed by Firefly.


Edited by Mariuxszas, 24 July 2017 - 07:33 AM.


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View PostNorstein_Bekker, on 23 July 2017 - 09:28 PM, said:

I would love to see that one engrish speaking guy trying to argue with the full russian bunch :teethhappy:

 

Makarov(in Russian): "So, EU guy, what do you propose?"

*Everyone turns their eyes to him*

EU Guy(in English): "Ummm....Rush B suka blyat?"

RU server representatives: 

Spoiler

Makarov:

Spoiler

 


Edited by cro001, 24 July 2017 - 07:38 AM.


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View PostSilas001, on 24 July 2017 - 08:03 AM, said:

 

Well, thats [edited]interesting.

 

It makes sense WG is listening to sponsors, who invested millions in WoT. And WG has nothing to lose by just meeting/listening with those guys. What happens afterwards is much more interesting to me. And not just specific changes for CW but if there is a general change in handling the eSports-community and in what direction they wanna go.

 

 

Sponsors does not invest money.

Where You got those wrong knowledge?:amazed:

Investors invest money.



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View Postarmandio, on 24 July 2017 - 07:37 AM, said:

 

 

Sponsors does not invest money.

Where You got those wrong knowledge?:amazed:

Investors invest money.

 

These two things are very similar. But in this case we are probably talking about investors, because they demand from teams and commanders that they invest in something in return. In this case beating other alliance.

Btw. In RU region alliances are still alive. You can check them here http://ru.wotvs.com/aliances.php

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View PostMariuxszas, on 24 July 2017 - 08:32 AM, said:

 

I'm not 100% sure, but I think I didn't find your suggestions for better system than proposed by Firefly.

 

Not sure? Or sure?

Can You be more certain about what You type, or think more before You type.

Basically, in my previous posts I was just thinking about reward system improvement in GM for attracting more players.

Maybe I will meditate some fresh new idea about GM provinces Improvement.I have some new, fresh and unique ideas already written in my virtual notes...






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