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Community #1 Posted 25 July 2017 - 04:22 PM

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Wargaming are returning to the Koelnmesse for gamescom 2017 so make sure to come by!

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s3thus #2 Posted 25 July 2017 - 05:55 PM

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Cobra6 #3 Posted 25 July 2017 - 06:04 PM

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Awesome! Are you going to announce there that you will revert all the over-buffs done to heavy tanks like the Maus, Type 5 Heavy so that they are no longer stomping over all other tanks?

That you are going to make armour relevant  *while* also adding weakspots which are perfectly viable for same tier standard AP(CR) ammo?

 

I'm also looking forward to you apologizing for releasing tanks like the Defender and most of the latest T8 premium tanks which have single-handedly murdered T8 skirmishes when combined with your failed "skill based MM".

 

It's going to be a good show!

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 25 July 2017 - 06:05 PM.


Pablo_Amenable #4 Posted 25 July 2017 - 06:05 PM

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Hopefully will hear more about HD graphics... Will come back once it gets released, maybe get hooked again

SlyMeerkat #5 Posted 25 July 2017 - 06:13 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 25 July 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Awesome! Are you going to announce there that you will revert all the over-buffs done to heavy tanks like the Maus, Type 5 Heavy so that they are no longer stomping over all other tanks?

That you are going to make armour relevant  *while* also adding weakspots which are perfectly viable for same tier standard AP(CR) ammo?

 

I'm also looking forward to you apologizing for releasing tanks like the Defender and most of the latest T8 premium tanks which have single-handedly murdered T8 skirmishes when combined with your failed "skill based MM".

 

It's going to be a good show!

 

Cobra 6

 

wake up bruv the alarm clock is ringing

Animalul2012 #7 Posted 25 July 2017 - 06:49 PM

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View PostCobra6, on 25 July 2017 - 05:04 PM, said:

Awesome! Are you going to announce there that you will revert all the over-buffs done to heavy tanks like the Maus, Type 5 Heavy so that they are no longer stomping over all other tanks?

That you are going to make armour relevant  *while* also adding weakspots which are perfectly viable for same tier standard AP(CR) ammo?

 

I'm also looking forward to you apologizing for releasing tanks like the Defender and most of the latest T8 premium tanks which have single-handedly murdered T8 skirmishes when combined with your failed "skill based MM".

 

It's going to be a good show!

 

Cobra 6

 

super heavys dont need weakspots like a is-3 should pen a maus from the front with AP no just no! Also the mm needs to be fixed to many battle where you are bottom of the tier and with the OP tier new tier 8 premiums... well... they need to dont sell them anymore just like type-59 and the most important right now is that they need to fix the premium ammo spam like make it 6 rounds max so we can also learn to shot weakspots and flank tanks and using the premium ammo where is necesary not spamming with it. if they ever solve this then wot wil just be better than ever and they will destroy all the competition!

Cobra6 #8 Posted 25 July 2017 - 07:16 PM

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View PostAnimalul2012, on 25 July 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

 

super heavys dont need weakspots like a is-3 should pen a maus from the front with AP no just no!

 

I know it's difficult to read, but at least give it a shot next time before hitting the reply button:facepalm:

 

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That you are going to make armour relevant  *while* also adding weakspots which are perfectly viable for same tier standard AP(CR) ammo?

 

Since when is an IS-3 a same tier tank as a Maus?

 

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View PostAnimalul2012, on 25 July 2017 - 05:49 PM, said:

most important right now is that they need to fix the premium ammo spam like make it 6 rounds max so we can also learn to shot weakspots and flank tanks and using the premium ammo where is necesary not spamming with it.

 

See that is the problem, tanks like the Maus and Type5 heavy as well as the GF don't have any frontal weakspots anymore that is viable with standard AP(CR) ammo. (can be penetrated reliably). That is the whole issue that was pointed out multiple times by the (good) players of this community.

 

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Edited by Cobra6, 25 July 2017 - 07:19 PM.


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Scaling the promises will scale the disappointment respectively.



Schemezoid #10 Posted 25 July 2017 - 10:01 PM

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So more premium tanks? Like releasing Polish tanks to rekindle the dieing flame of wot
But Yes, go ahead and Buff your raaashia tanks, they need it, because statistics right?

K32_fury_marksman_1 #11 Posted 26 July 2017 - 03:00 AM

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I wonder if the Maus could get a higher tier canon


And maybe the polish have their own firefly tank
 

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prassel #13 Posted 26 July 2017 - 06:38 AM

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someone needs to go and tell them to stop turning this game into p2w and to balance tanks instead of just buffing everything.

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View PostCobra6, on 25 July 2017 - 06:04 PM, said:

Awesome! Are you going to announce there that you will revert all the over-buffs done to heavy tanks like the Maus, Type 5 Heavy so that they can be stomped all over by Defender tanks?

 

fixd it for ya...

 

 

 

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IS3 APCR > Obj140 APCR

How do you balance that?  if later can frontally pen it, tier8 will cut it down the same.

 

Give Maus and Type 50kmh speed, and you can take all armor away.

 


Edited by Innapropriate_Username, 26 July 2017 - 08:06 AM.


leggasiini #15 Posted 26 July 2017 - 09:03 AM

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I expect more footage of HD maps and reveal of Siema tech tree (or possibly other lines).

Bad_Mad_Dog #16 Posted 26 July 2017 - 09:14 AM

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Certanly they will release new premium tank, to milk more and more, the will most likely show some HD maps as, but they will not tell us anything about new maps, because we have enough old maps, especially stalingrad, kharkow and some corridor maps. I wanna see at least one statement, when wot will receive any new maps, or some maps that were removed and now they are in reworking (dragon ridge...etc..).



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View PostCobra6, on 25 July 2017 - 06:16 PM, said:

 

I know it's difficult to read, but at least give it a shot next time before hitting the reply button:facepalm:

 

 

Since when is an IS-3 a same tier tank as a Maus?

 

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See that is the problem, tanks like the Maus and Type5 heavy as well as the GF don't have any frontal weakspots anymore that is viable with standard AP(CR) ammo. (can be penetrated reliably). That is the whole issue that was pointed out multiple times by the (good) players of this community.

 

Cobra 6

 

 

Because they are superheavy tanks they are not mean to have any weakspots. Its like lets make the machine port on the type 5 a weakspot and have about 170mm of armor, like.... this think with weakspots on superheavys is a bad ideea and you know the best example about this, KV-5 every player knows to shot the RD-D2 and kill the radio operator.The issue with this game right now is  the mothefucking spam of premium ammunition and the new OP premium t8 tanks. Now imagine what if they would make premium ammo limited, like 6 rounds huh? then the armor will have a place again in this game and heavys will be again worth it... oh and perhaps the comunity just made heavys hard to kill, why? no more arty, no more t92 AP this was arty job, but now i see that arty players enjoy to hunt light armored tanks so they can deal some damage and stun them asswell. PS if they are going to solve these problems then wot will became again on his feet and they will also destroy every competition.

Edited by Animalul2012, 26 July 2017 - 09:22 AM.


Animalul2012 #18 Posted 26 July 2017 - 09:32 AM

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How about we fix the premium ammo spam and also maybe we can buff those usseles brithish tanks, like nobody is playing them or are you going to ad more broken premium tanks? oh and how about we learn how to make ranked battle work, why dont go and take a look at the wows develop team on how the make ranked battles look like?

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View PostAnimalul2012, on 26 July 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

 

Because they are superheavy tanks they are not mean to have any weakspots. Its like lets make the machine port on the type 5 a weakspot and have about 170mm of armor, like.... this think with weakspots on superheavys is a bad ideea and you know the best example about this, KV-5 every player knows to shot the RD-D2 and kill the radio operator.

 

What gave you the impression heavy tanks are not supposed to have weakspots? They always have had them and they were the key to how superior players could take on heavy tanks in a fight, by knowing these weakspots and aiming better.

 

I agree with you that premium ammo is the actual problem in this game which WG just refuses to address because it makes them money indirectly, but the solution is not to remove weakspots that are viable for regular ammo.

The solution is to simultaneously completely remove premium ammo from the game while at the same time giving every heavy tank frontal weakspots which are viable for same tier standard ammo if said heavy tank is not played properly. It's not rocket science but it will mean that WG will earn a little bit less off the imbalance they deliberately create now.

 

WG is just creating more and more problems in an attempt to fix an issue which has a completely different solution. Much like they did years ago with trying to make heavies relevant again. Back then instead of fixing arty and premium ammo they tweaked with every other possible setting and even changed the map design to corridors.

 

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View PostAnimalul2012, on 26 July 2017 - 09:17 AM, said:

 

Because they are superheavy tanks they are not mean to have any weakspots. Its like lets make the machine port on the type 5 a weakspot and have about 170mm of armor, like.... this think with weakspots on superheavys is a bad ideea and you know the best example about this, KV-5 every player knows to shot the RD-D2 and kill the radio operator.The issue with this game right now is  the mothefucking spam of premium ammunition and the new OP premium t8 tanks. Now imagine what if they would make premium ammo limited, like 6 rounds huh? then the armor will have a place again in this game and heavys will be again worth it... oh and perhaps the comunity just made heavys hard to kill, why? no more arty, no more t92 AP this was arty job, but now i see that arty players enjoy to hunt light armored tanks so they can deal some damage and stun them asswell. PS if they are going to solve these problems then wot will became again on his feet and they will also destroy every competition.

Do you have some insiderknowledge about what certain tank (sub-)classes are supposed to do/have that we don't know about? There is nothing wrong with giving super heavies weakspots and making their armor more skill dependent so that:

a) Carefull aiming and weakspot knowledge allows players to penetrate (super) heavies

b) managing ones weakspots decreases the chance of getting penetrated

The end result is good survivability for said super heavies while at the same time skilled play against/as an armored tank is desirable and influences the effectiveness of its armor.

Yes, the KV-5 is a perfect example: It has well known, obvious weakspots but also the ability to actually make use of its armor; play the tank well and your armor will hold up well, herp-a-derp without any consideration and you can get defeated. This is why my KV-5 blocks more damage on average than your IS7, Kranvagn, VK 4502b etc. It's just a learn to play issue.

 

 

View PostCobra6, on 26 July 2017 - 12:26 PM, said:

I agree with you that premium ammo is the actual problem in this game which WG just refuses to address because it makes them money indirectly, but the solution is not to remove weakspots that are viable for regular ammo.

Tbh, I'm not sure about that. Personally I think there are several connected issues, not only premium ammo, and some unrealistic/unbalanced expectations from the players and percieved problems that cloud their judgement.

 

 

 






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