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Poll: Should Sixt Sense be a skill or a standard quality (44 members have cast votes)

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What should happen to Sixt Sense

  1. Make it a quality of the Comander at 100% proficiency? (4 votes [9.09%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.09%

  2. Make it a quality of the Radio Operator at 100% proficiency? (6 votes [13.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 13.64%

  3. Make it a quality of the Comander no matter what proficiency? (5 votes [11.36%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 11.36%

  4. Make it a quality of the Radio Operator no matter what proficiency? (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Leave it a skill for the Comander like it is now? (28 votes [63.64%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 63.64%

  6. Make it a skill for the Radio Operator? (1 vote [2.27%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 2.27%

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Thuis001 #1 Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:53 AM

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Hello, while reading a Topic about the Eagle Eye perk I saw that after 5 posts or so the topic shifted to Sixt Sense http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/638152-make-eagle-eye-a-default-commander-perk-discuss/

So here is a Topic for sixt sense.

Since Sixt Sense is basicly the most influencial skill in the game, (other perks are nice/usefull but none beats Sixt Sense) And currently it requires you to get your crew to 100%, then get about 42,5k crew xp before you have it, (if it is the first perk you get) And the difference between having this perk and not having this perk are huge. So perhaps instead of the way it currently works, it could be changed in something the Comander or Radio Operator learns when they reach 100% proficiency.

 

Comander: Since it is already a Skill that you can train on the Comander this would make some sense that they get it at 100% proficiency.

 

Radio Operator: anyone with a crew that has a loose R.O. will know this, you get hit, they kill the R.O. and you ignore it because you want to keep your medkit for an important crew member, like the comander or gunner. By giving the R.O. Sixt Sense as soon as he gets 100% base proficiency (so no, you can't get it with food, a 100% comander, vents and a 75% R.O.) this will make this guy actually usefull, (I mean Sixt Sense is something you kinda want to keep working) And would be more logical then the Comander magicly knowing that the tank is spotted, (how does that even work) Since the R.O. could be listening to the enemy radio aswell and hear there was a tank spotter where your tank is.

 

Ofc. if this would be used (very small chance but oke) every comander that has already gotten this skill by grinding/free xp should get a free skill they can select, or when you are training this skill, should get a skill with that amount of progress. Because it would be kinda sad if you spent time and reserves on this skill and you wouldn't get anything in return.

 

Tell me what you think about it.


Edited by Thuis001, 27 July 2017 - 12:39 PM.


Kozzy #2 Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:56 AM

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Need another option : Make it a skill for the radio operator.

ZlatanArKung #3 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:04 AM

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View PostKozzy, on 27 July 2017 - 10:56 AM, said:

Need another option : Make it a skill for the radio operator.

Which is same as having it a commander skill. Still hidden behind a 42k xp wall.



Kozzy #4 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:08 AM

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View PostZlatanArKung, on 27 July 2017 - 10:04 AM, said:

Which is same as having it a commander skill. Still hidden behind a 42k xp wall.

 

'Hidden'.  Many things are 'hidden' and need to be earned.  Tier 2 is 'hidden' behind XP earned at tier 1.  Safe stowage is 'hidden' for loaders needing XP to unlock. etc.  Crew working at 100% is 'hidden' behind them needing to grind up to the 100% XP level.  

qpranger #5 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:10 AM

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Where is the poll option "Remove this pathetic cheat completely" ?

Kozzy #6 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:12 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 27 July 2017 - 10:10 AM, said:

Where is the poll option "Remove this pathetic cheat completely" ?

 

I would ask for clarification on what you meant by this, but i fear you would be unable/unwilling to do so.

qpranger #7 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:14 AM

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View PostKozzy, on 27 July 2017 - 12:12 PM, said:

 

I would ask for clarification on what you meant by this, but i fear you would be unable/unwilling to do so.

 

Sixth Sense is a legal cheat, what is here to clarify any further?

A clever enemy sets an ambush, but you use this cheat to escape it. 



Dropman12 #8 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:18 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 27 July 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

 

Sixth Sense is a legal cheat, what is here to clarify any further?

A clever enemy sets an ambush, but you use this cheat to escape it.

 

 If you consider it cheat means nothing. Its feature, no cheat. That you dont like that is your problem. I dont like that repairs are so fast, but call it cheat?:facepalm:

qpranger #9 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:21 AM

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View PostDropman12, on 27 July 2017 - 12:18 PM, said:

 

 If you consider it cheat means nothing. Its feature, no cheat. That you dont like that is your problem. I dont like that repairs are so fast, but call it cheat?:facepalm:

 

The issue with repairs is merely their speed.

Repairs are essentially feasible - repairs exist.

But "Sixth Sense" is utter fantasy BS.



Dropman12 #10 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:30 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 27 July 2017 - 10:21 AM, said:

 

The issue with repairs is merely their speed.

Repairs are essentially feasible - repairs exist.

But "Sixth Sense" is utter fantasy BS.

 

Good job, you found that WoT and real warfare are not the same...suprisingly...

 

But repairs and other things are same fanasy as 6th. Never been in real fight, but I guess engine doesnt repair itself while running in combat. Might be connected to the fact it is only video game with some rules, like spoting system so 6th is simply fine. And no cheat.


 

Just saying...



Zoltan1251 #11 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:38 AM

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make it default so everyone has it.... it is only fair to new players...

lord_chipmonk #12 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:50 AM

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View Postqpranger, on 27 July 2017 - 11:14 AM, said:

Sixth Sense is a legal cheat, what is here to clarify any further?

A clever enemy sets an ambush, but you use this cheat to escape it. 

 

How is it that people use the term "legal cheat"? If it is legal, it is not a cheat and if it is a cheat it is not legal. 



ZlatanArKung #13 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:51 AM

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View PostKozzy, on 27 July 2017 - 11:08 AM, said:

 

'Hidden'.  Many things are 'hidden' and need to be earned.  Tier 2 is 'hidden' behind XP earned at tier 1.  Safe stowage is 'hidden' for loaders needing XP to unlock. etc.  Crew working at 100% is 'hidden' behind them needing to grind up to the 100% XP level.  

 

No other crew skill has same impact as SS, which is why it should be given to a 100% crew skilled RO/commander.



lord_chipmonk #14 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:02 PM

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I think there is definitely an argument for changing SS in some manner, presumably along with a rework of the crew skills in general. 

Noo_Noo #15 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:22 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 27 July 2017 - 11:10 AM, said:

Where is the poll option "Remove this pathetic cheat completely" ?

 

Disagree because of the games spotting mechanics. How a 30t tank can hide in a bush at 100m is not real life, neither is 445m max view range or tanks that disappear by magic etc etc. 

Kozzy #16 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:35 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 27 July 2017 - 10:14 AM, said:

 

Sixth Sense is a legal cheat, what is here to clarify any further?

A clever enemy sets an ambush, but you use this cheat to escape it. 

 

This maybe a language issue but in English "legal cheat" does not make sense; it is an oxymoron. If it is legal it is not cheating.

 

Sixth sense is a game mechanic that everyone has access to within the game.  It's a bit like using bushes, or a tank's characteristics to overcome an enemy.



Dropman12 #17 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:38 PM

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Back to topic - in WoWs every ship has sthis skill and its fine. More than it, it looks more fair, as 6th is not just average skill but game-changing one.

IncandescentGerbil #18 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:52 PM

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I hear sixt sense will soon be made redundant by sevent sense. Available with bonds.

Thuis001 #19 Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:05 PM

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View Postqpranger, on 27 July 2017 - 11:21 AM, said:

But "Sixth Sense" is utter fantasy BS.

The way it is now you can discribe it that way, because apparantly the Comander has some sort of spidey-sense that tells him: Hey, watch out, you have been spotted.

If it were a R.O. skill that would make more sense because the R.O. could be listening to the enemy radio and such.

 

View PostZlatanArKung, on 27 July 2017 - 11:51 AM, said:

No other crew skill has same impact as SS

True, If I have SS and it goes of when I am peaking or Passive scouting I will most likely get into cover asap, so I take maybe 1 or 2 hits before I have done this. When I don't have SS and I do the same, I won't know that I am spotted, I will take the same two shots of damage, and then take another 2 or so while trying to get out of there. For exemple, I am passive scouting in a M41 Bulldog and I get spotted, in the first case (with SS) I take two hits for 240 average, I am now down to 520 HP but am in cover. in the second case, (without SS) I take 4 hits with 3 for 240 and 1 for 250, I am now down to 10 HP, I am in cover, sure, but also a 1-shot for every tank, heck a B-C 12t could ram-kill me XD. In the first case I can still play quite actively, in the second case, I am screwed and will be in cover for most of the game.

 

But in the current situation I would need to get my crew to 100%, then get 42.5k xp before I can get the SS skill.

 



geoff99 #20 Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:18 PM

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I would like to see how the game plays without SS. I can't see it happening though as it would disadvantage HTs and new players. Current changes appear to be going in the opposite direction.

Several years ago I recall SerB being quoted as saying he'd like SS to be free on the RO but nothing came of it. I wonder why.






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