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dadek001 #1 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:52 AM

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Hello fellow tankers!

 

For me WG listens too much to crybabies they whin and they will always whin about something no matter what you do. That is why we have WoT the way it is now 

If you want make WoT playable again and bring back ton of old and new players who left the game because its getting worse with each update is to return UPDATE 8.10 yes you heard right  because of  the great old maps that has been removed without reason

 

Maps like: Pearl river,Province,Northwest,Port,Dragon ridge,komarin,etc. they removed those great maps and they leave shitty maps like Prokhorovka and Swamp  

 

Also the game wasnt PAY TO WIN like it is now..

Another thing is that nations were balanced and each nation had their own powerful tanks like: Foch 155 (France) ,WT E100 (Germany), FV215b 183 (UK) etc.

                 

Until wg nerfed all of them to the GROUND! except Russian. WG focused to much on nerfing and destroying a tanks than making it better for example if those TDs which i mentioned were still good as in old days they would not need to nerf the superheavys and make the game even more  unhistorical  it was hell of a game and i would really enjoy if it goes back to this time just with better graphic but that doesnt matter if the game is good.

 

Personally i think that WG needs to start over if they dont want for they game to die.They made so much mistakes and lost so many players (even i dont play wot much as in old times) because they dont focus on important stuff like: graphics, new maps, new sounds mechanics, mm etc.

(btw this is an actual help for wg to stay alive)  

let me hear your opinion :)

 

 

 



lord_chipmonk #2 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:53 AM

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Back to arty hitting you for all your hit points? No thanks. 

JuliusCheddar #3 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:56 AM

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Yeeeah.. 

No. 



Zend17 #4 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:58 AM

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WT e100 was inherently broken, it was impossible to balance, nty

Kozzy #5 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:09 PM

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Is this a new WoT forum meme?  People wishing the game to go back to Pay2Win (gold ammo for real money), broken physics, terrible graphics, awfully-balanced-campfest-maps, broken tanks (like the joke WTE100), one shot RNG lottery arty?

 

Also, INB4 qpranger, and other people who never even experienced this worse version of WoT, 'liking' the OP.



Kozzy #6 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:12 PM

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Also;

 

Didn't you JUST post this exact nonsense earlier today?

 

Also;

 

View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

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Also the game wasnt PAY TO WIN like it is now..

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You have paid plenty to the game, yet you don't win very much ;)  Are you proof that game is NOT Pay2Win? ;)

Bludsuager #7 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:14 PM

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Nee! NO! Nein! 9!

TheJumpMaster #8 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:21 PM

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Personally, things are a bit better than the "old"days back in 2011. No need to roll the clock back

Dropman12 #9 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:31 PM

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The game is much better than it was, just your memory betrayed you. Dont worry, it is just how everybody's memory works, it tends to remind better feelings and forget bad ones. I hear all day long from grandpa that green was greener in past and so on.

 

P.S: you dont like WG listening whiners, so why they should listen you?


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DuncaN_101 #10 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:33 PM

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Well some things where better back then but most were not.

I still think we should never have had T10 Meds, TD's,lights, and arty.
But that's probably just me being a grumpy old man

Coldspell #11 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:37 PM

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Whatever kind of weird ''golden " fetish you have should be kept off the forum. 

Kartoshkaya #12 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:39 PM

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Make wot great again !!!

 



Aikl #13 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:52 PM

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View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Hello fellow tankers!

 

For me WG listens too much to crybabies they whin and they will always whin about something no matter what you do. That is why we have WoT the way it is now 

If you want make WoT playable again and bring back ton of old and new players who left the game because its getting worse with each update is to return UPDATE 8.10 yes you heard right  because of  the great old maps that has been removed without reason

 

It's not really getting worse, there are just different things that are broken. Can't be arsed to compile that list again, but WoT has always had its problems. At the moment they are at least clearing a path to a good place, although they are using daisy cutters rather than a bulldozer.

 

Oh, and the maps were removed for a reason.

 

View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Maps like: Pearl river,Province,Northwest,Port,Dragon ridge,komarin,etc. they removed those great maps and they leave shitty maps like Prokhorovka and Swamp  

 

 

 

Pearl River... I can kind of get behind that. I believe it was rather unbalanced (although I don't think that should be a disqualifier).

Province... it's hard to take you seriously.

Northwest - Imbalanced, and frankly too large for unorganized gameplay. Really enjoyed the layout, still.

Port - Removed because of shooting through walls made the map unbalanced. Can't see why it couldn't be reintroduced with modification, still.

Komarin - It was incredibly shitty back in the day, though now it should fit perfect with the camping meta.

 

View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

 

Also the game wasnt PAY TO WIN like it is now..

Another thing is that nations were balanced and each nation had their own powerful tanks like: Foch 155 (France) ,WT E100 (Germany), FV215b 183 (UK) etc.

 

 

 

Those of us that actually played the game back in 2013 might remember the state of the IS-6 around then, or the Type 59 for that matter. You could still grind credits for "pay2win" ammo on your T-54.

 

As for the second line, to some degree yes - the powercreep has hit many of the 'old' tanks rather hard. Oh, and pre-nerf Foch and WTE? That's even dumber than Province.

 

View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

      

Until wg nerfed all of them to the GROUNDexcept Russian. WG focused to much on nerfing and destroying a tanks than making it better for example if those TDs which i mentioned were still good as in old days they would not need to nerf the superheavys and make the game even more  unhistorical  it was hell of a game and i would really enjoy if it goes back to this time just with better graphic but that doesnt matter if the game is good.

 

Fighting fire with fire is not a solution to gameplay balance, and is frankly part of the reason why we're here right now. The 268 is a contender for worst T10 (along with the Foch), and is "effectively" nerfed. 

"Unhistorical"? If you made WoT historical, it would be an incredibly boring game. This game has hitpoints on tanks. H-I-T-P-O-I-N-T-S. On tanks.

 

Once again, you have nostalgia for an age that didn't really exist, and your focus is on the very same tanks that were the problem back then. Nothing has really changed - the maps have changed to allow superheavies to have the upper hand, and the end result is the same whether you get clipped by a 2013-Foch 155 or roflstomped by a 2017 Maus.

 

Oh, and graphics is hardly the thing that made WoT popular. It looked really crapfor a 2011 game back then, yet people played it - a lot. It's nice for attracting new players, though.

 

View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

Personally i think that WG needs to start over if they dont want for they game to die.They made so much mistakes and lost so many players (even i dont play wot much as in old times) because they dont focus on important stuff like: graphics, new maps, new sounds mechanics, mm etc.

(btw this is an actual help for wg to stay alive)  

 

 

I doubt they've lost that many players. If they have, they've most likely managed to regain them, or even keep paying customers playing the game - which frankly is what it comes down to, besides having free-players populating the mid-tiers.

 

Important stuff is game balance, mechanics and how enjoyable the game is for both bad, average and good players - [edited] no one cares about the sound quality when they realize that the map design enabled the enemy to simply camp the base and win.

 

New maps, well, variety doesn't really address that most maps nowadays are really broken. Making them less stale is not a solution - and they even have the nerve to basically use the same recipe on multiple  maps. Pilsen and Paris are basically the same gameplay-wise, and we see the same pattern on many others. Field on Paris, beach on Overlord, waterside on Abbey... they're really the same. Useless flanks.

View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

let me hear your opinion :)

 

 

 


Edited by Aikl, 27 July 2017 - 01:06 PM.


SilentFear #14 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:52 PM

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Lets see what OP wants.

He wants the instant kill arta of old, broken Waffentrctor that can clip everything minus the Maus, Foch 155 when it was the most OP tank ever ect ect...

 

Let me check his winrate quickly - oh right 49%... nvm.



dadek001 #15 Posted 27 July 2017 - 12:59 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 27 July 2017 - 10:53 AM, said:

Back to arty hitting you for all your hit points? No thanks. 

Well what is the point of adding tier 10 light tanks if they spot for nothing?



Junglist_ #16 Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:12 PM

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Omg this is the same guy who made that topic earlier moaning about being unable to sit in corner of the map and one shot tanks from his safe space playing with one hand only.

And now he wants the broken WT E100 and the old Foch back? How shocking!

Seriously gtfo and if you insist on playing only the most broken vehicles in the game just go for Maus



lord_chipmonk #17 Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:19 PM

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View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 12:59 PM, said:

Well what is the point of adding tier 10 light tanks if they spot for nothing?

 

1) Light tanks used to spot for more than just arty

 

2) Lights can still spot for arty

 

3) "Spotting" as a dedicated role has been dead for years

 

4) Lights can actually do damage too!



Tinbawx #18 Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:20 PM

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View PostKozzy, on 27 July 2017 - 12:09 PM, said:

Is this a new WoT forum meme?  People wishing the game to go back to Pay2Win (gold ammo for real money).......

 

That´s actually really funny. Back when premium ammo was for gold only it was so rare, you wouldn´t even see it once every 10 battles in randoms. As soon as WG made premium ammo and consumeables available for credits, the amount of credits you could afford to spend on these things became a competitive element. WoT´s credit economy changed from a non competitive one to one where newbies with their meagre earnings have to compete with the war chests of veteran players. Much better.....

 

I realise that premium ammo for gold only was an issue in CW but for the rest of the game it was a lot better, because of how few people actually used it in random battles. For a game to be Pay2Win, practically, not just in theory, enough people need to actually pay to win.

 

When it comes to premium ammo it´s no premium ammo > premium ammo for gold only > premium ammo for credits.

 

Despite this I´d probably not go back ye old olden days, but give me a WoT version of 2014 or 2015 and I´d play that. I had more fun back then than I do now, despite old artillery and broken T10 TDs. At least the game didn´t have 260mm weakspots back then :teethhappy:.

 

 

 

 

 

 



Aikl #19 Posted 27 July 2017 - 01:24 PM

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I actually bothered to find the old list that pretty much sums up The World of Tanks experience over the years:

 

Sadistic matchmaking (T5 TDs could see T10, T6 meds too) (2011-2012)

Literal gold ammo (2011-2012)

World of Type 59 (2011-2012)

World of Artillery (2011-2013)

World of Tankdestroyers (2013/2014)

World of E25 (2013/2014)

Crappy map designs (Gulag map, Komarin reworks, Northwest) (2013, 2014)

OP E5 (2015)

T-22-rig-a-thons (2015)

Accuracy/Distribution rebalancing(2015)

Rubican't (2015)

"Easymode" T8 prems (2016/2017)

World of Superheavy Tanks. (2017)

World of Camping WinsTM (2017 and beyond)

 

 

Not all of these were a huge problem, but were arguably hot topics in their time. The point is that this game is still trying (?) to find some kind of a balance. The current 'flow' is a good one, and has to some extent balanced the old problems - but of course introduced new ones. Hence the 'daisy cutter' reference, instead of plowing a straight line they're throwing giant turds to the wall and sees what sticks bombs to clear a path, with no mind for consequences.


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View Postdadek001, on 27 July 2017 - 10:52 AM, said:

If you want make WoT playable again and bring back ton of old and new players who left the game because its getting worse with each update is to return UPDATE 8.10 

 

You must be really, really OLD.  Reminiscing about the "good ole days".  Can we have lower resolution and slower internet as well please ?

 

I've a better idea.  WG, can you hurry up and get us to UPDATE 10.15.1.

 

I know you don't have that planned yet so it will be 2-3 years from now, well trust me, it will be much better that what we have now.

 

<Me> Imagines the future reminiscing about the present ...

"Remember 9.19.1 when Czech only had 1 tank class and Swedish only had 2.

Sure, and how they'd just messed with arty and MM and swapped one set of problems for another ...

yeah, and all those OP premiums that they kept selling.

And you couldn't call in airstrikes in Randoms.

There were no armoured personnel Carriers.

No minefields.

Or flamethrower tanks."

 






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