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Sw3pS #1 Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:39 PM

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look at the other meds tourrets even the t8 get better armor and the e50m t10 med get worst armor on tourret

we dont need to took about new upcoming buffs to the rest of the tanks the fv4202 get better armor than them...

sry bad english


Edited by Sw3pS, 27 July 2017 - 05:43 PM.


Kartoshkaya #2 Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:42 PM

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Saddest thread of the year

arthurwellsley #3 Posted 27 July 2017 - 05:57 PM

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This is going to be fun!

Because of course as we all know;

 

"e50m is weak"

 



Sw3pS #4 Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:47 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 27 July 2017 - 05:57 PM, said:

This is going to be fun!

Because of course as we all know;

 

"e50m is weak"

 

 

yea best argument :D

BKatt #5 Posted 27 July 2017 - 06:52 PM

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To be honest the E50M dont really NEED a buff.

Its the most balanced of all the tier 10 meds, in my opinion.



Private_Pearts #6 Posted 27 July 2017 - 07:01 PM

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View PostBKatt, on 27 July 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

To be honest the E50M dont really NEED a buff.

Its the most balanced of all the tier 10 meds, in my opinion.

 

Yeah candidates for top spot is the T62A and the Centurion AX at the bottom because, well, it's British and WG don't like the Brits. What all tanks need is the same soft stats as the Russian tanks, that way they would all be as satisfying to play. You generally have to work harder if your tank is not Russian and screw you if your tank is British............................................

Edited by Private_Pearts, 27 July 2017 - 07:02 PM.


HundeWurst #7 Posted 27 July 2017 - 07:49 PM

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While the thread is not of particular high quality I tend to agree.

 

Is the E50m in the current environement fine? Hell yes it is. Its not quit as good as mother RASHA tanks (but non of the NATO tanks really is) but its in line with all the other tier 10 medium NATO tanks.

 

However in light of the upcoming patches the E 50m needs to be buffed as well to keep on being on the same level like the buffed tanks. Only because they get buffed most likely the E50m also needs some buffs.

 



JuliusCheddar #8 Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:04 PM

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Phobos4321 #9 Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:05 PM

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flawed logic  when you buff tanks that dont need or deserve a buff you need to buff other tanks too ?

 

heck just dont buff the russian meds in the first place



arthurwellsley #10 Posted 27 July 2017 - 08:34 PM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 27 July 2017 - 06:49 PM, said:

While the thread is not of particular high quality I tend to agree.

 

Is the E50m in the current environement fine? Hell yes it is. Its not quit as good as mother RASHA tanks (but non of the NATO tanks really is) but its in line with all the other tier 10 medium NATO tanks.

 

However in light of the upcoming patches the E 50m needs to be buffed as well to keep on being on the same level like the buffed tanks. Only because they get buffed most likely the E50m also needs some buffs.

 

 

Thinking about tier X mediums and trying to rank them in some kind of order in their present state;

1. Object 907

2. Object 140

3. T-62A

4. Object 430

5. 121

6. Bat-Chatillion 25 t

7. Skoda TVP T50/51

8. STB-1

9. E50 Ausf.M

9. M48A1 Patton

10. Leopard 1

11 Centurion Action X

12. 121B

13. M60

14. AMX 30B

15. T95E6

 

Not counting the 16th tank because only cheaters got it, and they deserve to have it nerfed to hell, even though it's still probably in the top four at the present moment.

 

The recent buffs to the 121 and the M48A1 mean I may have under valued them?



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Let me fix that list a bit for you:

 

1. Object 907

10. Object 140

11. Bat-Chatillion 25 t

11. Skoda TVP T50/51

12. 121

13. T-62A

14. M48A1 Patton

15. E50 Ausf.M

16. STB-1

17. Object 430

18. Centurion Action X

25. AMX 30B

26. Leopard 1

27. M60

100. 121B

200. T95E6

 

And yes the ranking is fully intended.

However the buffs to the tanks which were made public with completly change the list around. Suddenly tanks which are alright right now will be below average due to the (over)buffs some tanks recived. If they would care for proper balancing they would need to buff the currently alright tanks in the middle a bit as well to keep up with the powercreep.

Do you remember the good old FCM 50t? That thing has not gotten a single buff since the beginning of time. However since the changes on tier 8 it is now one of the worst tanks you can get. The environement changed.

 

All the currently alright tanks will be considered UP just because a huge amount of tanks are getting buffs in one big patch. The currently decent might not need major buffs but minor ones to keep on being decent or alright after the gamebalanced changed so much. Greetings powercreep my old friend.



mortalsatsuma #12 Posted 27 July 2017 - 10:08 PM

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Strizi #13 Posted 27 July 2017 - 11:09 PM

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Give it a 10% dpm buff and its fine

Hiisi #14 Posted 28 July 2017 - 06:42 AM

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Turret buff it's what e50m needs to get into the level of 9.20 st changes. Currently its well balanced among tier 10 mediums as wunderwurst stated, but it will get powercreeped without buff.

arthurwellsley #15 Posted 28 July 2017 - 09:22 AM

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View PostWunderWurst, on 27 July 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

Let me fix that list a bit for you:

 

1. Object 907

10. Object 140

11. Bat-Chatillion 25 t

11. Skoda TVP T50/51

12. 121

13. T-62A

14. M48A1 Patton

15. E50 Ausf.M

16. STB-1

17. Object 430

18. Centurion Action X

25. AMX 30B

26. Leopard 1

27. M60

100. 121B

200. T95E6

 

And yes the ranking is fully intended.

However the buffs to the tanks which were made public with completly change the list around. Suddenly tanks which are alright right now will be below average due to the (over)buffs some tanks recived. If they would care for proper balancing they would need to buff the currently alright tanks in the middle a bit as well to keep up with the powercreep.

Do you remember the good old FCM 50t? That thing has not gotten a single buff since the beginning of time. However since the changes on tier 8 it is now one of the worst tanks you can get. The environement changed.

 

All the currently alright tanks will be considered UP just because a huge amount of tanks are getting buffs in one big patch. The currently decent might not need major buffs but minor ones to keep on being decent or alright after the gamebalanced changed so much. Greetings powercreep my old friend.

 

I have to agree with most of what you have written.

Yes I do remember the FCM 50t that I used to enjoy playing, yet have not played for months now.

 

Would you explain your reasoning for dropping the Object 430 so low in the list?

The more I play the M48A1 the more I realise how much better it has become.



theSwedishTankDriver #16 Posted 28 July 2017 - 10:31 AM

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Have you thought about the possibility that you are just terrible at this game?

SuperDuperOtter #17 Posted 28 July 2017 - 12:00 PM

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View PosttheSwedishTankDriver, on 28 July 2017 - 09:31 AM, said:

Have you thought about the possibility that you are just terrible at this game?

 

Well the possibility that you migth be terrible at being a person doesn't appear to have crossed your mind either.

 

That said, the E 50 M doesn't need a buff. At least currently.

 

But with the many buffs/changes that are coming to mediums on the 9.20 and the ones that will likely follow later on, it migth need a little something more.


Edited by Kharlos76, 28 July 2017 - 12:00 PM.


HundeWurst #18 Posted 28 July 2017 - 12:36 PM

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View Postarthurwellsley, on 28 July 2017 - 09:22 AM, said:

View PostWunderWurst, on 27 July 2017 - 08:43 PM, said:

Let me fix that list a bit for you:

 

1. Object 907

10. Object 140

11. Bat-Chatillion 25 t

11. Skoda TVP T50/51

12. 121

13. T-62A

14. M48A1 Patton

15. E50 Ausf.M

16. STB-1

17. Object 430

18. Centurion Action X

25. AMX 30B

26. Leopard 1

27. M60

100. 121B

200. T95E6

 

And yes the ranking is fully intended.

However the buffs to the tanks which were made public with completly change the list around. Suddenly tanks which are alright right now will be below average due to the (over)buffs some tanks recived. If they would care for proper balancing they would need to buff the currently alright tanks in the middle a bit as well to keep up with the powercreep.

Do you remember the good old FCM 50t? That thing has not gotten a single buff since the beginning of time. However since the changes on tier 8 it is now one of the worst tanks you can get. The environement changed.

 

All the currently alright tanks will be considered UP just because a huge amount of tanks are getting buffs in one big patch. The currently decent might not need major buffs but minor ones to keep on being decent or alright after the gamebalanced changed so much. Greetings powercreep my old friend.

 

I have to agree with most of what you have written.

Yes I do remember the FCM 50t that I used to enjoy playing, yet have not played for months now.

 

Would you explain your reasoning for dropping the Object 430 so low in the list?

The more I play the M48A1 the more I realise how much better it has become.

 

Well its my most disliked tier 10 (russian) medium. The gun handling is just so sad. And the worst is that the promised armor is not even there either. A large portion of the front can be overmatched by 122 +mm guns. The other part as a supposingly nice nominal armor for a medium but the sloping is mediocre at best. Also the turret is not really there either since the overmatching part is to huge. And you have to endure all that for the worst gun on tier 10 mediums? For me that doesnt make a lot of sense. It just has worse armor than then 140 and not even talking about the 907. Yet it has the worst gun out of all the tier 10 russian mediums.

While I have not played the Patton the snapshot capabilities are insane. I and most other good players value good gun handling as one of the most important stats in the game.



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View PostBKatt, on 27 July 2017 - 06:52 PM, said:

To be honest the E50M dont really NEED a buff.

Its the most balanced of all the tier 10 meds, in my opinion.

It's probably the most balanced tank I  the game scorching to the wr graphs 



RamRaid90 #20 Posted 28 July 2017 - 01:08 PM

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Buff all british tanks. Stuff the rest.

 

I wonder if Wargaming realise that all of these "buffs" they're handing out to tier VIII, IX and X tanks will make them all stronger, resulting in none of them actually being stronger...


Edited by RamRaid90, 28 July 2017 - 01:09 PM.





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