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CmdRatScabies #41 Posted 28 July 2017 - 11:57 AM

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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 28 July 2017 - 11:44 AM, said:

 

...... thus his worry about stats may come with that. 2x hp pool in global matches means no marking in randoms, he didn't know stats for global matches are separate. But yeah, lemme unleash my pubbie mentality, filthy fame cheater

 

I think there are respawns?  So pool is way more than x2.

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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 July 2017 - 01:50 PM, said:

Maps is 1.4km x 1.4km. So all 4 can't cover both flanks at the same time if you go wide early on at least. So if you get all 4, you have the worst of luck and picked the wrong side to attack :P

 

You are right there.

But what prevents all of them click on me if i somehow manage to be in a wrong place at a wrong time? For example, 4 B-C arties...

I somehow manage to be in bad situations WAYY too often, specially at tier 10.



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View PostBalc0ra, on 28 July 2017 - 11:50 AM, said:

 

Maps is 1.4km x 1.4km. So all 4 can't cover both flanks at the same time if you go wide early on at least. So if you get all 4, you have the worst of luck and picked the wrong side to attack :P 

 

 

Well they said MOE's and PM will work for the new mode. It will def make TD-15 easier for some on the Obj. Or even LT-15. But... I suspect SPG-15 might be a tad harder. As getting the top spot among 30 players as arty is not gonna be easier, unless you get a ton of stun assist damage on the HT line if they go "lemming".

 

As for MOE? I suspect most tanks will have their high limit pushed up a bit. As you can't say when you play this mode, as it is random after all. So when you get close, some might get screwed as they only get the 15 vs 15 modes if it remains affected by it. They also said you could get ACE badges on this to. So it will be interesting to see how much this will push the ace levels up as there is more HP to take from. And if it will do the same as proving grounds did to tier 1 ace badges atm. Even if stats are not counted on your overall service record. It's interesting that they still did this.

 

So, it could be a disaster for MOE and ace tanker badges.



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View Postqpranger, on 28 July 2017 - 07:59 AM, said:

Any exclusive tier 10 game mode is a load of bowlocks by definition.

 

Play a tier 10 in randoms and most of the time you'll only be against other tier 10's anyway

Cannes76 #45 Posted 28 July 2017 - 01:29 PM

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This is coming in next patch already! YES!!! That makes me a happy camper!

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 28 July 2017 - 11:57 AM, said:

 

I think there are respawns?  So pool is way more than x2.

 

No respawns.

Edit. Just occured to me that you are probably thinking about Frontline mode, which this is not.


Edited by Cannes76, 28 July 2017 - 01:35 PM.


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While I was kinda pissy about it being tier 10 only, it does make sense to get tier 10s out of the que... though, yeah, it will probably mess up MoEs. Unless they implement some kind of modifier.

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View PostCannes76, on 28 July 2017 - 01:34 PM, said:

 

No respawns.

Edit. Just occured to me that you are probably thinking about Frontline mode, which this is not.

 

Might be.  Has grand battles been on test?

CmdRatScabies #49 Posted 28 July 2017 - 02:25 PM

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This should help the Tier 9/8 matchmaking if all the tier 10 players are in this mode - same as it did with Ranked.

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 28 July 2017 - 01:25 PM, said:

This should help the Tier 9/8 matchmaking if all the tier 10 players are in this mode - same as it did with Ranked.

 

Certainly hope so, otherwise the the forums users and mods are gonna have a field day.

 

If the mm algorithm remains emphasized (weighted) to primarily top down build the 3/5/7 template, starting at tier X, than tier 9 and 8 can see increased wait times. So I do hope they have adjusted the weighting with the 30x30 mode in foresight.



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View PostGkirmathal, on 28 July 2017 - 02:41 PM, said:

 

Certainly hope so, otherwise the the forums users and mods are gonna have a field day.

 

If the mm algorithm remains emphasized (weighted) to primarily top down build the 3/5/7 template, starting at tier X, than tier 9 and 8 can see increased wait times. So I do hope they have adjusted the weighting with the 30x30 mode in foresight.

 

I think a lot of players that would have been T8/9/10 will be playing T10 grand battles so mm should be good - the effect maybe work out the same as Ranked did if lots play it.

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1) I think the game gets balanced around tier 10 first the rest will come later.

2) It creates an incentive to spend real money to access a "free" games features.

 

 



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View PostUebergewicht, on 28 July 2017 - 01:35 PM, said:

While I was kinda pissy about it being tier 10 only, it does make sense to get tier 10s out of the que... though, yeah, it will probably mess up MoEs. Unless they implement some kind of modifier.

Like I said before: this gamemode will have a seperate statistics tab, so ace tankers and MoE can be earned in this gamemode but they womt mix with randoms.  

Atleast thats what I got from what they said, srill remains to be seen to be sure.



Junglist_ #54 Posted 28 July 2017 - 02:50 PM

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I'm quite looking forward to this but I don't understand why it's not on that Normandy map frontline style. That was a lot of fun IMO. 

Is there any video or screens of the new map? That's the thing that worries me since I liked Normandy but hated the other 2 maps that came after that.


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View PostGkirmathal, on 28 July 2017 - 01:41 PM, said:

If the mm algorithm remains emphasized (weighted) to primarily top down build the 3/5/7 template, starting at tier X, than tier 9 and 8 can see increased wait times. 

 

No it wont.  It will see an increase in the number of Tier 6-8 and Tier 7-9 matches as there wont need to be as many Tier 8-10 matches as there wont be so many tier 10 players who've had single tier after single tier after single tier forced on them by the Match Maker.

 

It would only result in greater weight times if Tier 8 could ONLY be bottom tier.  They will have to wait longer to get into tier 10 games.



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Am I correct in assuming bonds won here can buy you uber modules you can equip to any tank of any tier?

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View Postbrumbarr, on 28 July 2017 - 01:47 PM, said:

Like I said before: this gamemode will have a seperate statistics tab, so ace tankers and MoE can be earned in this gamemode but they womt mix with randoms.  

Atleast thats what I got from what they said, srill remains to be seen to be sure.

so how can it effect MoE when it has seperated statistics?



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View PostFAME_skill4ltu, on 28 July 2017 - 02:03 PM, said:

so how can it effect MoE when it has seperated statistics?

 

Perhaps there will be 2 different kinds of MOE?  One will be displayed only when playing this mode, the other will be displayed otherwise?

 

Do we know if this mode is the same format as Frontline was originally described as?  With respawns and repair/reload areas etc.



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View PostFAME_skill4ltu, on 28 July 2017 - 03:03 PM, said:

so how can it effect MoE when it has seperated statistics?

Idk, its WG , you can never be sure :) 

I am pretty sure it doesnt but you never know what WG pull out of their [edited].



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Any info on Arti numbers or will they just double too and we have the joy of 4 clickers on each side ?

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