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Noestinator #1 Posted 28 July 2017 - 11:10 AM

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Heey guys,

 

I was wondering what you think of the T54 mod 1 and if it needs some adjestments to be on level playing ground with other tier 8 premiums.

Since a year or some, the premium tanks have started getting good penetration guns. 

The T54 mod1 still has only 183 mm pen. This is something I find very annoying about the tank, because it isn't very competitive on tier 9 & 10.

it even struggles against tier 8 opponents

In the latest news updates, I learned WG upgraded the pen of the Type 59 patton, which already had more pen then the T54 mod1.

So I was wondering if there is something known to upgrade the pen on the T54mod1 ?

Also the turret armor of this tank is something I am curious about.

Recently we heard that the T44 turret will have increased armor.

I think players of the T54mod1 will know the turret armor is one of the weak points of this tank.

I would hope that WG also looks at this point. 

Do you guys think this is needed for the T54mod1 ? 

Personally, I think the tank is starting to fall behind compared to other premium tanks.

Offcourse the armor is still very awesome against tier 6,7 & sometimes 8.

But overall I find the tank is falling behind and I am struggling to compete on higher tiers.

 

Regards

 

Noestinator



Enforcer1975 #2 Posted 28 July 2017 - 11:37 AM

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Well it struggles more like every other tank with that pen and the premium pen doesn't help it either. It doesn't mean it can't contribute in the right low to mid tier setting.
If you would read what is written in the launcher instead of just pressing the launch button you can find a treasure of information already...just saying. Also there are threads concerning ST 9.20 changes to many tanks.

MrStevenSteel #3 Posted 29 July 2017 - 09:39 AM

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Currently the T54 Mod 1 is getting a list of buffs:

 

T-54 Mod. 1

  • Spread during movement reduced by 9%
  •  Spread during hull rotation reduced by 9%
  • The spread of the 100 mm D-10T-K gun during turret traverse reduced by 25%
  • Aiming time for 100 mm D-10T-K gun reduced from 2.4 seconds to 2.2 seconds.
  • View range increased from 360 m to 380 m.
  • Turret armor increased
  •  Armor penetration of the UBR-412 projectile for 100 mm D-10T-K was changed from 183 mm to 190 mm
  • Armor penetration of the UBR-412P projectile for 100mm D-10T-K gun was changed from 235 mm to 247 mm
  •  Gun depression for 100 mm D-10T-K gun changed from -6 degrees to -7 degrees
  • Ammunition capacity increased from 34 to 56 shells

In these buffs you can find its pen being increased from 183 to 190, and the premium pen also getting a buff. Fair enough it probably isn't going to make that big of a difference, but all these buffs together do make the tank significantly more competitive.



tajj7 #4 Posted 29 July 2017 - 09:45 AM

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View PostMrStevenSteel, on 29 July 2017 - 08:39 AM, said:

Currently the T54 Mod 1 is getting a list of buffs:

 

T-54 Mod. 1

  • Spread during movement reduced by 9%
  •  Spread during hull rotation reduced by 9%
  • The spread of the 100 mm D-10T-K gun during turret traverse reduced by 25%
  • Aiming time for 100 mm D-10T-K gun reduced from 2.4 seconds to 2.2 seconds.
  • View range increased from 360 m to 380 m.
  • Turret armor increased
  •  Armor penetration of the UBR-412 projectile for 100 mm D-10T-K was changed from 183 mm to 190 mm
  • Armor penetration of the UBR-412P projectile for 100mm D-10T-K gun was changed from 235 mm to 247 mm
  •  Gun depression for 100 mm D-10T-K gun changed from -6 degrees to -7 degrees
  • Ammunition capacity increased from 34 to 56 shells

In these buffs you can find its pen being increased from 183 to 190, and the premium pen also getting a buff. Fair enough it probably isn't going to make that big of a difference, but all these buffs together do make the tank significantly more competitive.

 

These are pretty big buffs, with the armour buff to the turret the turret will be pretty solid, the flat bits that are currently 180 are quite small but it means the rounded parts are still only like 220 effective, moving this to 200 and buffing the mantlet to 200 really makes that a strong turret.

 

Then you'll have much better gun handling, better gun depression, more shells and better pen.

 

People should remember this is a tier 8 medium with a 200 effective UFP, angled this tank can be basically immune to guns with 190 pen or less, now with the better gun handling and turret armour itll be able to challenge higher tiers better. 



Emeraldweed #5 Posted 29 July 2017 - 09:58 AM

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View PostMrStevenSteel, on 29 July 2017 - 11:39 AM, said:

Currently the T54 Mod 1 is getting a list of buffs:

 

T-54 Mod. 1

  • Spread during movement reduced by 9%
  •  Spread during hull rotation reduced by 9%
  • The spread of the 100 mm D-10T-K gun during turret traverse reduced by 25%
  • Aiming time for 100 mm D-10T-K gun reduced from 2.4 seconds to 2.2 seconds.
  • View range increased from 360 m to 380 m.
  • Turret armor increased
  •  Armor penetration of the UBR-412 projectile for 100 mm D-10T-K was changed from 183 mm to 190 mm
  • Armor penetration of the UBR-412P projectile for 100mm D-10T-K gun was changed from 235 mm to 247 mm
  •  Gun depression for 100 mm D-10T-K gun changed from -6 degrees to -7 degrees
  • Ammunition capacity increased from 34 to 56 shells

In these buffs you can find its pen being increased from 183 to 190, and the premium pen also getting a buff. Fair enough it probably isn't going to make that big of a difference, but all these buffs together do make the tank significantly more competitive.

 

yea right after i managed to 3mark that pos it's getting buffed. 

Rekerino #6 Posted 29 July 2017 - 10:04 AM

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10mm of penetration .. what a fuckin joke.

at least they increased ammo capaciy... still going to be a crap tank though:)



Noo_Noo #7 Posted 29 July 2017 - 10:07 AM

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It'll be better than it is now but still looks lacklustre against some of the tier 9 and tier 10 tanks it will face. I'm not talking about its armour as I dont believe it should be able to stand up against Tier 10 shells. It's own penetration values are still a little behind the Super Pershing (just a smidge). At least the ammo count will be increased which has been a major gripe with it for some time. 

As an overall observation I'm concerned about the direction the game is going. To me it looks like there's a an increasing onus on the top tier tanks in your team. Because if you are bottom tier your chances of simply damaging them seem to be decreasing with every patch. I fully appreciate that a Tier 8 tank should struggle to damage a tier 10 tank, especially from the front but it should not be impossible to take them out. It looks and feels as if it's heading that way. 

Edited by Noo_Noo, 29 July 2017 - 10:08 AM.


JuliusCheddar #8 Posted 29 July 2017 - 10:11 AM

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It's not going anywhere into "useful area" without mobility buff. 






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