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dadek001 #1 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:37 PM

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Hello fellow tankers!!!

 

As you already know we need something to conquer Super Heavy tanks in the game in that case i think that WG should add new german assault gun line

with Sturmtiger at the top of the branch tier 9 could be Brummbar or something like that. 

It would be better to add something new into the game instead of constantly adding autoloaders which are harder to balance and we are all tired of them.

Also the Sturmtiger was actually build and used in battle so it would be one of a few historical tier 10 

I think that we need something new in the game :)

 

Let me hear your opinion :)

 


Edited by dadek001, 29 July 2017 - 01:38 PM.


gpalsson #2 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:42 PM

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Sfinski #3 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:43 PM

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View Postgpalsson, on 29 July 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

No

 



Phobos4321 #4 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:45 PM

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and what will WG make of it ? probably a 304 in big and slow

splash about 10m and 1200 damage are rather shared values among t10 arties  so it might get  1300/1350 damage and it would be still less than a type 5  leave alone the 1800 a 183/stage2 got as nominal hesh damage

 

it might just end up as king of single shot reload time ...



Spurtung #5 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:45 PM

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View PostSfinski, on 29 July 2017 - 02:43 PM, said:

View Postgpalsson, on 29 July 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

No

 

 



Nishi_Kinuyo #6 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:50 PM

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How about the Japanese arty line instead, ending with the Type 4 Ha-To at tier 10 with a 30cm mortar.



Enforcer1975 #7 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:52 PM

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Since you seem to have researched stuff about the tank you do know it was used as a support vehicle and would rather fit into the SPG line than into the TD line?



lord_chipmonk #8 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:54 PM

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View PostSpurtung, on 29 July 2017 - 01:45 PM, said:

View PostSfinski, on 29 July 2017 - 01:43 PM, said:

View Postgpalsson, on 29 July 2017 - 01:42 PM, said:

No

 

Otherwise the power creep would just continue. 



brumbarr #9 Posted 29 July 2017 - 01:54 PM

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The brumbare can be implemented, not at tier9 though, its a t7 , at max tier8 tank.
But the sturmtiger is just too extreme, a 304mm just cant be balanced.

lord_chipmonk #10 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:01 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 29 July 2017 - 01:54 PM, said:

The brumbare can be implemented, not at tier9 though, its a t7 , at max tier8 tank.
But the sturmtiger is just too extreme, a 304mm just cant be balanced.

 

Make it arty. Problem solved?

 

Actually never mind. Even the T92 only mounts a 240mm gun...



brumbarr #11 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:03 PM

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View Postlord_chipmonk, on 29 July 2017 - 02:01 PM, said:

 

Make it arty. Problem solved?

 

Actually never mind. Even the T92 only mounts a 240mm gun...

But then its no fun playing it :p. 

304mm arta gun => hits maus for 100 dmg. 

 



DracheimFlug #12 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:14 PM

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View PostEnforcer1975, on 29 July 2017 - 01:52 PM, said:

Since you seem to have researched stuff about the tank you do know it was used as a support vehicle and would rather fit into the SPG line than into the TD line?

 

No more no less than the SU or ISU 152's, although I don't think they were used in an anti tank role.

Dava_117 #13 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:20 PM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 29 July 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

 

No more no less than the SU or ISU 152's, although I don't think they were used in an anti tank role.

 

I'm quite sure they were. Just the kinetic energy of that shell could detonate ammos, even without pen. Not to talk about what happened to weldings...

leggasiini #14 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:22 PM

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No.

 

View PostNishi_Kinuyo, on 29 July 2017 - 02:50 PM, said:

How about the Japanese arty line instead, ending with the Type 4 Ha-To at tier 10 with a 30cm mortar.

 

Also no. Japanese arty line is practically impossible to implement logically. Type 75 SP is apparently too modern or so which makes implementing Jap arties almost impossible.

 

Brumbär would be nice as tier 7 derp premium TD, though. I would get one.


Edited by leggasiini, 29 July 2017 - 02:23 PM.


brumbarr #15 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:29 PM

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View PostDava_117, on 29 July 2017 - 02:20 PM, said:

 

I'm quite sure they were. Just the kinetic energy of that shell could detonate ammos, even without pen. Not to talk about what happened to weldings...

So could the kinetic energy of the sturmtiger and brummbar shells. The brummbar has a 150mm derp, its basicly an su152.



SilentFear #16 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:32 PM

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View Postgpalsson, on 29 July 2017 - 12:42 PM, said:

No

 



Gremlin182 #17 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:35 PM

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Why start posts with As we all know, or everyone agrees that .

If anyone wanders the dusty halls of the forum knows  drat now im doing it ;)

Let us say there are varied opinions

 

I am not sure that creating a super derp tank is a good method of defeating another super tank.

Firstly its based on the tiger 1 and only has 150 mm of armour no turret and rolls along at 25 mph.

It would be the first target in any game.

That giant rocket gun wouldn't just be firing against Superheavies, its probably a one shot gun for many tanks.

 

Anyway why do we need that when there supertanks are already being killed there are plenty of guns that can take these tanks out some of them on tier 8ts and certainly on tier 9 and 10 tanks.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 29 July 2017 - 02:29 PM, said:

So could the kinetic energy of the sturmtiger and brummbar shells. The brummbar has a 150mm derp, its basicly an su152.

 

I was talking about AP rounds, but I agree with you. The brummbar looks like a fusione between SU-152 and SU-122 (tier V SU-85 with 122mm howizer in WoT) Mat be a tier 7 TD with standrd 910 HE, a 60mm pen 700dmg AP and a 150-175mm pen HEAT...But the short barrel would give him an even lower bullet speed than SU-152...

Cobra6 #19 Posted 29 July 2017 - 02:49 PM

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No, we don't need more arty (because that is what the Sturmtiger would be).

 

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Enforcer1975 #20 Posted 29 July 2017 - 03:15 PM

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View PostDracheimFlug, on 29 July 2017 - 02:14 PM, said:

 

No more no less than the SU or ISU 152's, although I don't think they were used in an anti tank role.

 

Yeah but there is a big difference between a shell that flies 450 m/s and "only" weighs 40kg compared to a shell that weighs almost 10x as much and only flies 250 m/s. You have to consider how useful they are against a moving target.




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