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qrwot #1 Posted 30 July 2017 - 09:13 AM

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I apologise, but here comes a vent!

 

Given the Foch 155 is going to be removed from the tech tree in favour of a new tank, with the AMX AC mle. 48 and the AMX 50 Foch apparently due to be buffed, I'm grinding my way up the the tree so I can keep the Foch 155 as a reward vehicle.  If the AMX AC mle. 48 is going to be buffed that's a good thing because this tank is the worst experience I've had in WoT to date.  Let me list the reasons.

 

  • The 100mm gun is unable to penetrate the heavily armoured tanks it meets these days.
  • The 100mm gun is wildly inaccurate.  0.34 dispersion?  It feels like 0.5.
  • The 120mm gun takes far too long to aim and has a long reload.
  • The tank cannot fight on ridges.  It's shot in the cupolas long before it can get its gun over the ridge line.
  • The camouflage is useless, even if you have a crew with full camouflage skills.  Playing this tank without 6th sense is ghastly as you can be sitting deep in the cover of bushes and only to find you are shot despite seeming to be hidden.  You simply cannot afford to be anywhere near the enemy, which, given the gun is inaccurate, is a serious problem.  If you have 6th sense then you'll find you're having to move so often you can hardly take the time to shoot at the enemy.
  • The armour, which may have been good at the front three or four years ago, is now pretty much useless except against the lowest calibre of guns.
  • The view range isn't good enough without binoculars, which means giving up a really important piece of equipment such as the rammer or vents.

 

I'm sure I'm not saying anything new.  After all, WG wouldn't be proposing to buff the line if it weren't for the fact people won't play these tanks because they're useless.  However, after the most miserable three days of gaming I just had to get my frustrations off my chest.

 

All done.  I hope I haven't bored you and if I have, I'm sorry.



JuliusCheddar #2 Posted 30 July 2017 - 09:16 AM

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Try stock panther II

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Convert free exp it is on sale... Problem solved.

Igor_BL #4 Posted 30 July 2017 - 09:27 AM

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I am on ARL now.... looking on ac 48 numbers.... 

there is no chance i will play that tank before new patch... dont really care about  old tierX.

 

and. one more..... how can you give up on rammer, on any tank??

imho rammer and vstab are almost musthave on all tanks....

dont have vstab on 100LT and that is it.... meaby maus or fv215b can work without vstab...

but rammer :)



qrwot #5 Posted 30 July 2017 - 09:36 AM

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I chose to keep the rammer, but because the view range is so poor with a relatively unskilled crew I have foregone vents in favour of binoculars, a horrid choice to have to make.

 

One thing I forgot to mention; the tracks are so wide that almost every shot into the hull takes them off.  I've lost count of the times my tracks have come off, I've repaired them and instantly lost them again to the next shot - at which point I'm a sitting duck waiting to be destroyed.



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Welcome to French Turds, err TDs.

 

If you dislike the tier 8 you'll hate the tier 9 - it is the basically the same tank (more HP, more DPM, more useless frontal armour) with the same wreakness: a gun that has no alpha, no pen, no overmatch potential and aims longer than a KV2 while still only hitting a faction of the shots.



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Then try StrvS1

 

- 1k HP 

- Whole tank is a weak spot

- 105mm Gun which have 288pen, yes on paper. But because of 105mm it have problems to pen some tanks. Example angled T9/T10 STRV you can't pen. 

- Can't play without siege mode, you need 2 sec for siege mode and 1,3sec to get out of sige mode. When you in sige mode you have 8kmh top speed. Very hard to protect ur self from fast tanks when flanked.

- only playable as sniper, you can't trade shells with any other tank

- good cammo, shell velocity, top/reverse speed. But hill climbing is nightmare with this tank

- and talking about view range? 350m on S1, while AMX have 370


Edited by I_DiD_, 30 July 2017 - 05:31 PM.


Junglist_ #8 Posted 30 July 2017 - 11:24 AM

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Never played that tank but it does look pretty bad. Did you see the upcoming changes to the tank it's getting next patch?

AMX AC mle. 48

* Changed dispersion of the 120 mm AC SA46 gun from 0.33 m to 0.37 m

* Decreased dispersion on gun traverse of the 120 mm AC SA46 gun by 42%

* Added the magazine reloading system to the 120 mm AC SA46 gun for the AMX AC mle. 48 turret

* Changed the aiming time for the 120 mm AC SA46 gun for the AMX AC mle. 48 turret from 2.9 s to 2.7 s

* Improved hull armor

* Changed the ammo capacity for the 120 mm AC SA46 from 64 to 66 shells



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But...it has a baby seat on the back! How can you hate that?

T4T #10 Posted 30 July 2017 - 12:05 PM

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Wait untill you get Foch. Tank cursed for unlimited lose. Im enabled 100% xp booster for 2h, and try to gues how much battles i won? 

One!!! One battle in 2 hours I won with Foch... /facepalm

 

 



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Umplayable in my book. 

Balc0ra #12 Posted 30 July 2017 - 12:22 PM

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I'm not gonna argue over that. Besides the fact that mine attracted lemming fails and yolo team like no tank I've ever played. And had 6 losses in a row for one daily 2x some days. It was about as useful as the Challenger in a tier 9 game trying to impact anything. 

 

View PostI_DiD_, on 30 July 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

Then try StrvS1

 

- 1k HP 

- Whole tank is a weak spot

- 105mm Gun which have 288pen, yes on paper. But because of 105mm it have problems to pen some tanks. Example angled T9/T10 STRV you can't pen. 

- Can't play without siege mode, you need 2 sec for siege mode and 1,3sec to get out of sige mode. When you in sige mode you have 8 second top speed. Very hard to protect ur self from fast tanks when flanked.

- only playable as sniper, you can't trade shells with any other tank

- good cammo, shell velocity, top/reverse speed. But hill climbing is nightmare with this tank

- and talking about view range? 350m on S1, while AMX have 370

 

I'll play the S1 over that any day I suspect. Might be something after the patch tho, but as of now. Nope.

- It has 1K HP to.

- It's armor is not even effective head on vs lower tier. And that rear upper turret gets you killed more then anything. As it pokes up and just asked to be hit by anything before you tank's gun gets on target.

- 120mm gun can overmatch more indeed, but it claims to have 0.33 dispersion. But it did feel like it was 0.45. And that aim time is not helping. So it's equally useless close up.

- At least you have a decent top speed reversing if you take fire. As this can't back off out of anything if he gets flanked either.

- As is this.

- Shell velocity is not bad, it's still above 1K. But hills is not that bad going up hills. But at the top of most hills you need gun depression to fight anything. And again... that turret pokes up before your gun. It's basically an M3Lee trying to fight up hill. 

- View range is fine enough. Not great either, but good enough for a tier 8 TD indeed. But that don't make it a great TD either.



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View Postqrwot, on 30 July 2017 - 08:13 AM, said:

I apologise, but here comes a vent!

 

Given the Foch 155 is going to be removed from the tech tree in favour of a new tank, with the AMX AC mle. 48 and the AMX 50 Foch apparently due to be buffed, I'm grinding my way up the the tree so I can keep the Foch 155 as a reward vehicle.  If the AMX AC mle. 48 is going to be buffed that's a good thing because this tank is the worst experience I've had in WoT to date.  Let me list the reasons.

 

  • The 100mm gun is unable to penetrate the heavily armoured tanks it meets these days.
  • The 100mm gun is wildly inaccurate.  0.34 dispersion?  It feels like 0.5.
  • The 120mm gun takes far too long to aim and has a long reload.
  • The tank cannot fight on ridges.  It's shot in the cupolas long before it can get its gun over the ridge line.
  • The camouflage is useless, even if you have a crew with full camouflage skills.  Playing this tank without 6th sense is ghastly as you can be sitting deep in the cover of bushes and only to find you are shot despite seeming to be hidden.  You simply cannot afford to be anywhere near the enemy, which, given the gun is inaccurate, is a serious problem.  If you have 6th sense then you'll find you're having to move so often you can hardly take the time to shoot at the enemy.
  • The armour, which may have been good at the front three or four years ago, is now pretty much useless except against the lowest calibre of guns.
  • The view range isn't good enough without binoculars, which means giving up a really important piece of equipment such as the rammer or vents.

 

I'm sure I'm not saying anything new.  After all, WG wouldn't be proposing to buff the line if it weren't for the fact people won't play these tanks because they're useless.  However, after the most miserable three days of gaming I just had to get my frustrations off my chest.

 

All done.  I hope I haven't bored you and if I have, I'm sorry.

 

Understandable, AMX AC 48 is pretty terrible and to make matters worse both T9 and T10 Foch are equally terrible, especially T9, that thing literally has nothing going for it.

 

View PostI_DiD_, on 30 July 2017 - 10:01 AM, said:

Then try StrvS1

 

- 1k HP 

- Whole tank is a weak spot

- 105mm Gun which have 288pen, yes on paper. But because of 105mm it have problems to pen some tanks. Example angled T9/T10 STRV you can't pen. 

- Can't play without siege mode, you need 2 sec for siege mode and 1,3sec to get out of sige mode. When you in sige mode you have 8 second top speed. Very hard to protect ur self from fast tanks when flanked.

- only playable as sniper, you can't trade shells with any other tank

- good cammo, shell velocity, top/reverse speed. But hill climbing is nightmare with this tank

- and talking about view range? 350m on S1, while AMX have 370

 

Strv S1 is so much better than AMX AC 48 you can't even put it on a scale. Like, it's better in every way, shape and form. I'm fairly certain that S1 is gonna do a better job at front line compared AMX AC 48.

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I have the Strv S1, which certainly has its weaknesses, but I rather enjoy playing it and have far better statistics in it than the AMX.  Oh, and did I say the ammunition for the AMX is ridiculously expensive?  Okay, I don't play the vehicle well - who does? - but I am losing credits in it.

Edited by qrwot, 30 July 2017 - 01:36 PM.


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View PostI_DiD_, on 30 July 2017 - 11:01 AM, said:

Then try StrvS1

 

- 1k HP

- Whole tank is a weak spot

- 105mm Gun which have 288pen, yes on paper. But because of 105mm it have problems to pen some tanks. Example angled T9/T10 STRV you can't pen.

- Can't play without siege mode, you need 2 sec for siege mode and 1,3sec to get out of sige mode. When you in sige mode you have 8 second top speed. Very hard to protect ur self from fast tanks when flanked.

- only playable as sniper, you can't trade shells with any other tank

- good cammo, shell velocity, top/reverse speed. But hill climbing is nightmare with this tank

- and talking about view range? 350m on S1, while AMX have 370

 

That is such bollocks.  I'm only average in it but you should see a good player in it.

Igor_BL #16 Posted 30 July 2017 - 01:58 PM

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This STRV1 guy is the same guy that made the topic about nerfing tier9 LTs...
Come on man...
I dont know which statement is funnier.

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View PostCmdRatScabies, on 30 July 2017 - 12:53 PM, said:

 

That is such bollocks.  I'm only average in it but you should see a good player in it.

 

What is good player in it? You have pro player which have 2,4k avrage damage on StrvS1 

 

I saw good player on FV4005 StageII with 3 MoE, and that means the tank is good?



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View PostIgor_BL, on 30 July 2017 - 12:58 PM, said:

This STRV1 guy is the same guy that made the topic about nerfing tier9 LTs...
Come on man...
I dont know which statement is funnier.

 

And what have my post with this topic?

 

How many complains you have because StrvS1? Use search bar and then come back.



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View PostI_DiD_, on 30 July 2017 - 02:10 PM, said:

 

What is good player in it? You have pro player which have 2,4k avrage damage on StrvS1 

 

I saw good player on FV4005 StageII with 3 MoE, and that means the tank is good?

 

My friend LordMuffin has 2400+ avg dmg in Strv S1.



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Aye its garbage




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