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sulo_bb #1 Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:01 AM

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This post has been edited by the moderation team due to Naming and Shaming.

 



Enforcer1975 #2 Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:24 AM

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View Postsulo_bb, on 31 July 2017 - 05:01 AM, said:

HOW DO YOU GUYS HANDLE THIS???

I always open a whine thread and ask people to pity me. 



FAME_skill4ltu #3 Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:37 AM

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i ad them to blacklist but sadly i have reached 1000 limit so i just ignore them

laulaur #4 Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:50 AM

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First, naming and shaming is forbidden on forum.

Second, the guy who called you noob, is not a noob. Not a exceptional player, bu he plays 2 times better than you.

Now lets see your replay:

1.battle starts, no arty in game but you still go like a robot on a kinda useless side of the map

2. 10 seconds after start you block a T34 because he barely touched your track with his track. T34 is annoyed and shoots you (i would have done the same thing)

3. after you let your Defender getting rekt, you finally decide to join battle and have luck setting that T10 on fire

4. now you are doing something good, you beat nice that Type4. but again you have lots of luck because he missed you

5. now you just stop and let tier 7 tanks go push, because you are a ''sniper'' top tier heavy

6. after more camping in a useless spot and some failed sniping attempts, almost all your team is dead

7.you finally decide to move and come back to base

8.a T28prot appears, you shot him once and track him too, but for some reason decide to use autoaim for the second shot and miss because of that

9. you get raped by a Panther1 and a KV13

 

The conclusion: having 3k damage when you are top tier in a 3/5/7 game with a tier9 is not a big achievment, and you were too static. you just camped and meanwhile your team got slaughtered....



FAME_skill4ltu #5 Posted 31 July 2017 - 05:55 AM

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how can u judge his gameplay only by a replay. thats not fair to him

laulaur #6 Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:08 AM

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View Postsulo_bb, on 31 July 2017 - 04:01 AM, said:

HERE IS THE REPLAY IF YOU WANT TO JUDGE; http://wotreplays.co...st-sulo_bb-m103

 

He kinda asked for it...

Sorry if i was too harsh, but i think OP is over-reacting about someone being mean to him in a online game.

I also lose my temper and say mean things many times. Because all of the snowflakes reporting everything chat is almost dead now.

You cant even make a joke, they report you for spam:(

Yesterday i was called toxic by some guy just because i said: ''omfg'' :amazed:



MR_FIAT #7 Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:24 AM

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Oh look a pointless thread, Grow some thicker skin you baby. 

1ucky #8 Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:31 AM

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View Postsulo_bb, on 31 July 2017 - 05:01 AM, said:

I'm really tired about the idiots going the wrong place or dying because of their own faults and then blaming others for it...

90% of the time i get in discussion with someone from Poland or Czech and this kind of discussion (during and) after the game wasting my time...

HOW DO YOU GUYS HANDLE THIS???

 

(I didnt play that bad this game, did everything i could do...and this is what you get...)

HERE IS THE REPLAY IF YOU WANT TO JUDGE; http://wotreplays.co...st-sulo_bb-m103

I use a simple algorithm (courtesy of T. Parker & M. Stone):

1. Learn to play,

2. (...),

3. Profit.

 



jabster #9 Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:45 AM

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Well I'm bored with posters that think the nationality of a player is somehow relevant to how the act. That's just me though.

XxKuzkina_MatxX #10 Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:48 AM

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Watched the replay and i am sorry you got hit for 650 hp by your own teammates. The chat between you and the ISU took longer than needed, once you see that tone in chat just blacklist him. Regarding the game though, why were you indecisive? i mean you could've pushed that flank or went back to defend the base.

Bludsuager #11 Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:51 AM

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View Postjabster, on 31 July 2017 - 06:45 AM, said:

Well I'm bored with posters that think the nationality of a player is somehow relevant to how the act. That's just me though.

 

It doesn't simply because they are one of the bigger nationalities playing this game the chances of meeting a salty/bot player from that country is just higher than meeting one from say... Democratic Republic of Congo



jabster #12 Posted 31 July 2017 - 06:58 AM

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View PostBludsuager, on 31 July 2017 - 05:51 AM, said:

 

It doesn't simply because they are one of the bigger nationalities playing this game the chances of meeting a salty/bot player from that country is just higher than meeting one from say... Democratic Republic of Congo

 

I've found the Congolese an awfully salty lot. 

Hedgehog1963 #13 Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:00 AM

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The origins of the Internet are often overlooked, but the reason it gained popularity was it being the means for people to share pornography and talk about Star Trek.  Lets face it, Star Trek isn't that popular any more.  The other thing this wonder allows is a means to insult people you will never have to face in real life.

 

There are people who get off on the notion that they upset or annoy other people. OP adds fuel to their desires because they can see what they want to happen happening.

 

To quote myself "Your reaction is precisely what they were hoping to elicit.  You've let them win by giving a damn about what other people say on the internet."

 

 


Edited by Hedgehog1963, 31 July 2017 - 07:02 AM.


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View Postlaulaur, on 31 July 2017 - 05:50 AM, said:

First, naming and shaming is forbidden on forum.

Second, the guy who called you noob, is not a noob. Not a exceptional player, bu he plays 2 times better than you.

Now lets see your replay:

1.battle starts, no arty in game but you still go like a robot on a kinda useless side of the map

2. 10 seconds after start you block a T34 because he barely touched your track with his track. T34 is annoyed and shoots you (i would have done the same thing)

3. after you let your Defender getting rekt, you finally decide to join battle and have luck setting that T10 on fire

4. now you are doing something good, you beat nice that Type4. but again you have lots of luck because he missed you

5. now you just stop and let tier 7 tanks go push, because you are a ''sniper'' top tier heavy

6. after more camping in a useless spot and some failed sniping attempts, almost all your team is dead

7.you finally decide to move and come back to base

8.a T28prot appears, you shot him once and track him too, but for some reason decide to use autoaim for the second shot and miss because of that

9. you get raped by a Panther1 and a KV13

 

The conclusion: having 3k damage when you are top tier in a 3/5/7 game with a tier9 is not a big achievment, and you were too static. you just camped and meanwhile your team got slaughtered....

 

You're harsh a bit like you said on your second reaction, but i dont mind ;)

 

Yes this was the kind of reaction i expected when posting the thread. I like to discuss things and dont run away from a debate, so here I am...

1.''no arty...'' enough people went the other side so i decided to go this side so they dont rush and cap. It doesn't mean there is no arty, so you need to go the other side... That Type 4 could easily rush if we left the left side open ;)

2. LOL, yes I did that. Now hopely he learned from it. I don't often block or so, but in this case it was a warning to him from the beginning so he doesnt do it a second time.

3. I don't let anyone get reckt. I didnt say him to rush hime while there might be snipers on their hill. He could block him, and fight him there... As you can see on the map. there is a Type 4 coming also...

4. That's where I did MY JOB. I took the risk, and went out, he missed, good for me...bad for him.

5.That wasn't the thing i usually do, but as you can see there are some tanks in the middle, WHO LATER WENT KILLING THE SU-152, after which he blamed me... You can prevent that by shooting their lights/meds... And secondly i didnt say the tier 7's to go in front. Everybody has a brain...they descided to attack the hard way and that's ok. If I had seen 'help'-signs i would have turned that way, as you can see i damaged the t29 2 times there... (btw T34 is not a tier 7 :teethhappy:)

6. That's a thing i really want to discuss. That's where i tried to save SU-152's [edited]... that's what you call ''failed sniping attempts''. Yes i failed, but at least i tried...

7. Yep.

8. The second attempt with autoaim wasn't meant so... I panicked a bit there and unfortunately clicked wrong on my mouse... I couldnt kill him anyway there, i was reloading :/

9. I admit, i got raped there :mellow:, but cant fight 2 tanks at the same time, while they hide and shoot from 2 diffrent spots (front-back). They did their jobs well there...

 

The conclusion: having 3k damage when you are top tier in a 3/5/7 game with a tier9 is not a big achievment, and you were too static. you just camped and meanwhile your team got slaughtered....

I agree, 3.6k isn't a big achievement, and i never said that,so... You can call that camping, but the thing is i had a dillema there, i could have go back and help defending, or i could attack. In the same time, they could rush and cap or maybe not. I panicked and that's where i ''camped''...

 

Thx for the reply, the analyse, i really appreciate. Maybe I'm wrong in my taughts, but I like to get reactions so I can work on it. The other thing is, we can't discuss these things with the WOT-developers. With this thread I'm trieng to get respons from other people, so i can get reflection if I'm the only one who want another system for reporting/bans/etc.

Reporting spammers, teamkillers, team damagers, etc. doesn't ever help... How many times you need to report something so they do something about it... That's a fair question I think.

 

And last, before I forget, I didn't know about the naming and shaming thing, I'll keep that in mind...but I dont get why this is a wrong thing on this forum. This is a forum for ALL WOT-Players, so he can react also about his deeds? He didnt react after my last reactions in the chat...so i wanted to hear opinions from other players who get same issues...He could have reacted and we could have end the discussion there, and I wouldn't post anything... Right?



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View PostMR_FIAT, on 31 July 2017 - 06:24 AM, said:

Oh look a pointless thread, Grow some thicker skin you baby. 

 

Dont react if you dont like the thread?

ZlatanArKung #16 Posted 31 July 2017 - 07:45 AM

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I troll them or close the chat window.

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View Postsulo_bb, on 31 July 2017 - 07:24 AM, said:

 

Dont react if you dont like the thread?

 

I watched the replay and think I'd have been screaming 'NOOB!' at you as well. Right from the start with your hissy fit with the T34 over touching tracks you did as little as possible to help your team, you were playing for yourself. Many of the tanks who eventually closed in on your base could have been dealt with if you'd not let the lower tier tanks push on their own, instead you faffed around doing nothing and looking to snipe easy shots from a distance. If you had pushed with the lower tier tanks the pivot of the battle would have moved towards the enemy base, allowing the others in your team to advance as well. You had the most powerful tank on your team and you wanted your team to do all the work, disgusting.

CptBarney #18 Posted 31 July 2017 - 08:24 AM

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ok so I watched your replay and here is the reason why I guess the su-152 was so angry at you.

 

1. straight away you act like an arse by blocking the T34 for no reason and continue to do so before the T34 dumps one into the back of your turret. Then you try and get him reported.

2. you take a hit from the T-10 wait awhile before the defender and tiger 1 show up to brawl against it once its around 670 odd hp you swing in and kill it.

3. you engage the Type 4 heavy and kill it although you take unintentional team damage from the tiger 1 although he apologises.

4. for some really bizzare reason instead of pushing up and wiping the river flank out and catching the top hill out in a pincer, killing them off you proceed to uselessly snipe from the ridge line for about 3-4mins while although the lower tiers who have worse guns and armour than you die as you basically abandon them to their deaths.

5. after that you rush back to the cap for again a strange reason and proceed to get the river flank killed.

6. you attempt to engage the T28 proto you then track him which is good but then you autoaim him and then shoot at the rocks he hiding behind.

7. try to kill the T71 but instead kill the strv s1 which is not a bad thing since that thing can be dangerous when played properly late game. (SU-152 rages)

8. you then get flanked by the kv-13 twice and the panther once leading you to get killed by the former as you try to angle your hull and hide. (SU-152 rages till OP's death)

9. rest of your team mates have little health and can't do anything about it leaving bother decent players to die.

10. battle ends in a loss.


 

yeah I get the M103 is not exactly known so its great armour but you had the chance to spearhead through the flank you were on (since there were only two tier 7 heavies guarding it at the time) and break the enemies momentum. since your allies needed you. since the T34 is inaccurate as hell and slow and the tigers have no armour and weak guns. would of been nice if the defender hadn't suicide but then you can 't prevent the inevitable.


 

yes you did a lot of damage but that damage wasn't useful and you didn't kill a lot of the tanks that needed to die and you didn't assist your allies in flanking them or giving your team some room to breath so that you can either flank around them or come back and assist.


 

I don't know what the other flank was doing but like I said you can't control everything. you need to learn when to push and not too. your play style is too timid and selfish especially at parts when you should be pushing.

 

 

If you had gone to the other flank and used your turret it would of been more beneficial as well. but still.

 


 

and get rid of the bloody binos as well they aren't needed. vents, rammer, vstab would be your best option to maximise firepower and performance.


Edited by CptBarney, 31 July 2017 - 08:30 AM.


ZlatanArKung #19 Posted 31 July 2017 - 08:27 AM

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Binos on M103 is terrible choice.
Get, Rammer,  Vents, V-stab.

About the game.

1: You go to the irrelevant side of map. It can be left open if you know how to turn back to base in time.
2: you act like a [edited]in beginning.
3: You don't support Defender, you could have had him alive if you had pushed with him.
4: Fight against Type 4 was ok. You let Tiger I take the shot. But then you failed to pen your kill shot so he could shoot again.
5: After Type 4 died, you did nothing at all for some time. Trying to snipe targets behind hard cover. This resulted in your T7 tanks you had with you being dead.
I'd you had pushed with Tigers, you could have killed T29 and T34 etc while also having more team mates alive (here you could have won the game).
6: You then go half way back to base for no reason (you have 3-4 tanks there, no threat upon cap).
7: wait a little more.
8: finally back at base. And once again, you are to inactive and passive (the situation you are in at base is a situation you created when you didn't push with your T7 and T8 heavies).
2nd shot on Prot would never hit. But not a problem.

After S1 kill.
You should have went for Panther, which was your only hope of winning. Being inactive and letting them flank you was a mistake.

In short, you had a battle you could have won quite easy, but since you didn't push after type 4 kill, you didn't.
From Type 4 kill all the time until you where back at base was a big missplay from your side.

If you want to improve, turn your huge amount of inactive time into active time.

JocMeister #20 Posted 31 July 2017 - 08:31 AM

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Top tier HT but you played like a bottom tier MT.

 

I can sympathize with your team. When you are top tier you have an obligation to help carry the team but you didnt do that and played quite badly. Not saying the way he expressed himself is okay but he was right about your play. 

 

Had you played properly that would have been a win. 






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