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GanSolo #1 Posted 04 August 2017 - 10:43 AM

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How are these two after the nerf & buff doing?

 

I'm grinding towards Maus and on the paper it still looks like good super heavy.

Am I wrong?

 

Another question is about IS-7. I have basically good crew (1 extra loader with bia) for heavy on my T-54 currently. I already own Obj 140 and see no reason to buy T-62a after the obj turret buff. I am planning to transfer the crew to T-10 after I have unlocked T62a if IS-7 is workable compared to Chinese heavies which also play as Heavy/medium role. Is IS-7 still a lot weaker after the buffs than 113 & WZ-111 5A?

 

Not going to download the test client to see it myself, but if someone has tested these two and have a valuable opionion, please share it.

 


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View PostGanSolo, on 04 August 2017 - 10:43 AM, said:

How are these two after the nerf & buff doing?

 

I'm grinding towards Maus and from the paper it still looks like good super heavy.

Am I wrong?

 

Another question is about IS-7. I have basically good crew (1 extra loader with bia) for heavy on my T-54 currently. I already own Obj 140 and see no reason to buy T-62a after the obj turret buff. I am planning to transfer the crew to T-10 after I have unlocked T62aifIS-7 is workable compared to Chinese heavies which also play as Heavy/medium role.Is IS-7 still a lot weaker after the buffs than 113 & WZ-111 5A?

 

Not going to download the test client to see it myself, but if someone has tested these two and have a valuable opionion, please share it.

 

Is7 will be as goos as chinese heavys if not better, they are different however. Is7 is more about armor while chinese are more about the guns.



Igor_BL #3 Posted 04 August 2017 - 10:47 AM

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I palyed 2 games with is7... it is faster then before, but not that much as one could think after that hp/t buff.
2400hp is quite nice.
But the gun is sensibly better. Not only -0.2 aiming time, disperssions are better a lot.

Comparing it to wz111 15a... i think the Chinese is still better (that DPM is just sick)...

Edited by Igor_BL, 04 August 2017 - 10:48 AM.


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View PostGanSolo, on 04 August 2017 - 11:43 AM, said:

Is IS-7 still a lot weaker after the buffs than 113 & WZ-111 5A?

Both of those have cupolas, IS-7 doesn't. When hulldown, IS-7 wipes the floor with both.



GanSolo #5 Posted 04 August 2017 - 10:56 AM

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I started wondering if IS-7 is even buffed on the test server:

 

http://forum.worldoftanks.eu/index.php?/topic/639169-chinese-medium-buff-got-rejected/page__pid__14621225#entry14621225

 

View Post_EXODUZ_, on 04 August 2017 - 01:12 AM, said:

IS7 hasn't been touched either, so relax for now.

 

 

 



Igor_BL #6 Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:04 AM

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And why do you wonder?

GanSolo #7 Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:25 AM

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View PostIgor_BL, on 04 August 2017 - 12:04 PM, said:

And why do you wonder?

 

That have people tested the pre-buffed IS-7 on the test server or the buffed one...

Igor_BL #8 Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:36 AM

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Did you read that thread further? it was mistake that is7 was in old shape of stats.

It is already buffed on TS. as soon as TS was online, buffed version of is7 was able.

GanSolo #9 Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:47 AM

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View PostIgor_BL, on 04 August 2017 - 12:36 PM, said:

Did you read that thread further? it was mistake that is7 was in old shape of stats.

It is already buffed on TS. as soon as TS was online, buffed version of is7 was able.

 

Thank you for correcting me. I did not read it further.

GanSolo #10 Posted 04 August 2017 - 11:49 AM

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Reading through the another topic, I might go for the IS-7. I already have researched T-10 and what I have heard it's quite fun tank to play. 

 

Don't want to start the whole Chinese line from the scratch without proper crew.

 

Thank you for everyone answering, would have given you a like, but superfly2000 got all my likes today...


Edited by GanSolo, 04 August 2017 - 11:50 AM.


XxKuzkina_MatxX #11 Posted 04 August 2017 - 06:08 PM

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View Postbrumbarr, on 04 August 2017 - 11:46 AM, said:

Is7 is more about armor while chinese are more about the guns.

 

Yeah, IS7 is about armor when the WZ have 340mm heat and can pen the upper plate shoulders but you can't pen his cause your pen sucks yeah it is all about armor!



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 04 August 2017 - 06:08 PM, said:

 

Yeah, IS7 is about armor when the WZ have 340mm heat and can pen the upper plate shoulders but you can't pen his cause your pen sucks yeah it is all about armor!

Euhm, if you have problems penning a wz with 250 let alone 303 pen its not the tank...

And the is7 upper plate is around 330 effective, angle it at an angle and it will bounce. Not to mention the turret is impenetrable.



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Maus never needed the buffs to start with, it's stats were dragged down because it was a massive noob magnet.

 

IS-7 is also a massive noob magnet.



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View Postbrumbarr, on 04 August 2017 - 07:39 PM, said:

Not to mention the turret is impenetrable.

Played CT today, first battle in is7 new Chinese tier X td lolpenned my turret with AP 

I rate that tonk turret/is7

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View Postbrumbarr, on 04 August 2017 - 08:39 PM, said:

angle it at an angle and it will bounce. Not to mention the turret is impenetrable.

 

You angle a pike nose to one side and the other side is weak so no not a good idea might work when low pen guns are shooting you but with all the gold flying in tier 10 you ain't bouncing nothing.

HunterXHunter8 #16 Posted 05 August 2017 - 05:02 AM

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is7 is gonna be better then chinese heavy, not only is now more durably, it's also faster meaning it can reach good positions faster then before. 

 

gun is lot more responsive now.



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View PostJuliusCheddar, on 04 August 2017 - 08:50 PM, said:

Played CT today, first battle in is7 new Chinese tier X td lolpenned my turret with AP 

I rate that tonk turret/is7

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I'm sure you have a replay yes? So we can all confirm that? 

 

I find that pretty incredible to being true.



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View PostXxKuzkina_MatxX, on 05 August 2017 - 03:53 AM, said:

 

You angle a pike nose to one side and the other side is weak so no not a good idea might work when low pen guns are shooting you but with all the gold flying in tier 10 you ain't bouncing nothing.

 

You get into a postion where there is some cover, then when you peak the unangled plate is behind cover and you only show he angled plate and turret.

Basics...

 

Bouncign nothing? Ah, thats why I bounced 1.5K dmg a game in my is7...


Edited by brumbarr, 05 August 2017 - 08:25 AM.


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View PostRaxipIx, on 05 August 2017 - 08:17 AM, said:

 

I'm sure you have a replay yes? So we can all confirm that? 

 

I find that pretty incredible to being true.

 

Why?
It has 300 pen.

I had games where Grile pen my turret frontaly with AP...  right next to gun, like you pen Russian meds.
e5 with HEAT once... JG PZ e100 and 268 HEAT several times (ofc, ~400 penetration).
Yep, those are once in 100 games, but still... with great  RNG, it can be penned.

 

edit: i dont count situations where various tanks pen my "mantlet", when i dont aim on some other tanks... under the mantlet, it is very weak..
ofc, those are still lucky shoots, but can be done.
On close range combar with facehuging is7, that is your best chance to pen, if you dont see cupolas/roof


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View PostIgor_BL, on 05 August 2017 - 08:38 AM, said:

 

Why?
It has 300 pen.

I had games where Grile pen my turret frontaly with AP...  right next to gun, like you pen Russian meds.
e5 with HEAT once... JG PZ e100 and 268 HEAT several times (ofc, ~400 penetration).
Yep, those are once in 100 games, but still... with great  RNG, it can be penned.

 

I actually never had my turret penned frontaly in the is7 ever.




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